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#1  Edited By battlexlordx

either the teacher knew about this beforehand or he was all like:

Teacher: These guy just interrupted my lesson and threw a monkey wrench into my teaching plans, Buuuutttttt............... He has a cool mustache. I'll let it happen.

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@WillPayton said:

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@WillPayton: Man I like this thread because it really gives you something to think about. One last question before i go how would it be a different battle if It meets the OPs rules Batman has prep. The Presence Doesn't know or didn't act on batmans actions before the fight and It only took action during? (it would still be the same fight but The Presence would make his move after the fights starts.) Anyway I'll check the thread again later to day (it seems ive been awake the whole night.)

Thanks, yeah I was hoping people would take the thread seriously and have a serious discussion about this stuff.

Sorry I thought you meant that a different being would get more power and then attempt to take down Batman, after he fought The Presence. I see now what you meant.

Yeah, I guess the issue is whether The Presence would be able (after the battle begins) to then achieve a greater amount of power. Like you said, that's conceivable. Of course, given the prep time, it's also conceivable that Batman anticipated this and went in to the fight already prepared to overcome whatever the Presence does to counter him. But, I think this is where we start to get to the logical problems with this kind of fight. Any time we start to talk about infinities and such, it's logically inconsistent with actual physical world things... like human minds, etc. That's why I initially hoped it could be shown that the Presence was in fact NOT an infinite being with infinite power. Because if that's the case, then you need a greater infinite power, and so on. And once you start talking about infinities, it's really hard to know what happens.

Yeah your are right. I just finished reading something that might make it harder on batman. batman is still human. He still has some of the biological limitations a human in his situation would have. after so much time he his mind won't be able to take it it would drive him up a wall. And Even if it didn't it would make all his memories seem like flashes. He would run out of memory space. ( I read it on Cracked.Ill post a link) ( http://www.cracked.com/article_18708_5-reasons-immortality-would-be-worse-than-death.html ) Numero Three.

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@WillPayton: Man I like this thread because it really gives you something to think about. One last question before i go how would it be a different battle if It meets the OPs rules Batman has prep. The Presence Doesn't know or didn't act on batmans actions before the fight and It only took action during? (it would still be the same fight but The Presence would make his move after the fights starts.) Anyway I'll check the thread again later to day (it seems ive been awake the whole night.)

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@WillPayton said:

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@Maniac2312 said:

@Supreme Marvel: LOL

@WillPayton: Have you heard the story about the scientist who tells God he can create life? I think that's how this goes down.

Oh I loved that one. If you think about it God is infinite so when batman's 1,000,000 are over and he's plans are done he'll see that he has to account for the rest of infinity.

We're not talking about "God", we're talking about The Presence.

Even if it's shown that The Presence has infinite power, that doesnt preclude Batman from attaining an equally infinite (or greater) amount of power on his own. For example, in Marvel you have items like the Infinity Gauntlet that give whoever is holding it godlike powers. Similarly, Parallax was able to attain the power to destroy and create universes. The question is, can Batman achieve an feat that would allow him to acquire power equal to or greater than The Presence.

Then no cause even if batman gets a godly amount of power the Presence is said to be omnipotent hence it is and will always be the perpetually bigger fish in this scenario. If you take into account that batman has perp. and that he can achive a such a level of power then that opens the door to the possibility of there being something bigger somewhere (there is always a bigger fish) so what would stop a being with the amount of power that the pesence has from getting more power the second that the fight begins not before. but as it begins. This would lead to a scenerio of batman being one step behind the big P. ( he would have to know the amount of power the P had before he cant equal it or surpass it) batman will be the Smaller fish in the scenario by merit of the big P alway being ahead. (It's like when you where a kid and someone pull an infinity +1 Batman will be the Infinity and the big P will The infinity+1) If any of that makes sense.

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@Maniac2312 said:

@Supreme Marvel: LOL

@WillPayton: Have you heard the story about the scientist who tells God he can create life? I think that's how this goes down.

Oh I loved that one. If you think about it God is infinite so when batman's 1,000,000 are over and he's plans are done he'll see that he has to account for the rest of infinity.

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@sinestro_GL said:

I don't think we'll ever know. Bruce Wayne never grew up. He died on those streets of Crime Alley the same night his parents did...

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I think that was an accident, he tackled Harvey but he didn't think that he would fall. What i find interesting is the end of batman begins though. You are right he didn't kill him. but not saving some one seems kid of funny in its own way; If you think about it he doesn't need to save the other wack jobs that kill people. It could be a trend.

Batman and the joker are on top of a building the joker is loses he's footing and Batman goes " I won't kill you but i don't have to save you". and lets him fall.

Or Batman and Mr. freeze are having a confrontation and freeze's helmet thing breaks and batman just kind of goes " you know I don't feel like saving you." ect.

It would really save him time and energy.

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I understood that cosmic awareness let's you see the future past and present at the same time and it would let you take in information in a titanic scale. where as with nigh omniscience you know a lot about many things.

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It pretty self explanatory. What would you your choice be if you could only have one. and why? I think for me it would be nigh omniscience it sounds cool.