Respect Amadeus Cho, the Totally Awesome Hulk! - V2, now with more Brawn!
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To put it frankly, My other RT on him is trash and the reddit RT misses out on some of his feats. I figured I'd try again.
Respect Amadeus Cho Hulk
Intro
- Name: Amadeus Cho
- Created by: Greg Pak, Takeshi Miyazawa
- First Appearance: Amazing Fantasy #15 - Mastermind Excello/Heavy on Action - Light on Plot/The Man with the X-Ray Eyes/The Winning Hand/Monstro/You Say You Want An Evolution/Heartbreak Kid/Happy Ending/Positron/I Was the Guy in Spider-Man Armpit!
- Latest Appearance: Fallen Friend: The Death of Ms. Marvel
- Powers: He's the Hulk. He might gammaburst on a small scale when under extreme duress and getting drained, and he's one of the smartest people on marvel earth, specializing in chaos theory and having a brain that more or less works as a hypercomputer.
- Currently a member of the Champions, and the Agents of Atlas.
- He's 19.
Banner saved millions of people, went all worldbreaker
http://imgur.com/uEwR6MU
Cho totally stole all the gamma from banner,
http://imgur.com/YsrSpZs
and he becomes the hulk whenever he wants by pumping gamma into his body.
http://imgur.com/0OYPTRB.
He has the standerd Hulk schtick. But the wrinkle he has that differs him from banner's hulk is that he has 2 hulk forms. One that's like a young arrogant professor hulk form where his most impulsive emotions (his pride) drive him and he's arrogant, cocky, and smashes more than thinks, but still more or less regular amadeus cho. The other is his Dark Hulk persona;
The Whole Dark Hulk persona is the idea that Cho has his own internal demons that he always keeps in the trunk. He holds back his emotions, and thus his full physical power. Cho's whole MO was that he could be a calm and collected hulk that could utilize Hulk's power without getting angry and out of control, but a consistent theme of the series is that he couldn't keep his own emotions in check and he'd unleash it and was out of control. Throughout the series Cho when overwhelmed would open up the trunk and let loose this internal demons, or sometimes would do it involuntarily and because it's his repressed emotions, would appear more savage though more powerful, but Cho would quickly smother that persona back in the trunk because it's terrifyingly powerful;
As some of the scans i linked from TAH #23 show, that persona only seems more savage because it's Amadeus's repressed rage (his own "hulk" in a way made flesh because of the gamma energy in his cells) and was only seen for long enough to smash before being smothered, but it wasn't just wild uncontrollable rage. It is amadeus, just as angry and powerful, and thus repressed, as possible:
The difference is with his second fight against Thor is that Cho had to let loose to deal with the Warlord and that persona finally took complete control for weeks on end, fighting thor, alpha flight, and the champions. The reason why against namor and other characters it sems savage is that we only see that repressed rage persona for very brief periods in a fight and thus could only smash, whilst it later was just released and we got to see more than just it's mindless smashing.
TL;DR Cho's dark hulk is his anger and repressed emotions given form and increased power due to gamma. He can and does access this persona if he's completely overwhelmed. The Dark Hulk in WWH2 is that same repressed persona, the only difference is that persona had assumed control for long enough to be articulate, whereas it usually appears savage.
Since Regular Cho and said persona are different enough to be almost separate incarnations and separate in power level, I'll have 3 different Sections, Calm Cho, Dark Hulk, and his Brawn persona which is much less powerful due to most of his power being drained away, but can access his savage Dark Hulk persona if overwhelmed and tends to use his intelligence in combat. Dark Hulk doesn't really hold back and if completely unleashed uses Cho's formidable intelligence in full conjunction with his strength.
Standard Chulk
Intelligence
Figures out how best to use his environment to take out a firebreathing monster
Totally Awesome Hulk #1
He's figured out he's in one of Xemnu's illusions and broken out.
Totally Awesome Hulk #1.MU
Figures out how to stun Fin Fang Foom due to an one off comment Maddy Cho made about his spit being Acid.
Totally Awesome Hulk #3
Figures out how to depower monster's obedience disks after a couple of seconds
Calculates how to stop secondary adamantium cyborgs immediately after being sliced up, he does this while is space, where he has no leverage, and he does this with droplets of his own blood.
The Totally Awesome Hulk #19 - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Prelude
This is almost self-explanatory. under stress figures out how to break into a ridiculously well-armed facility within seconds, then deactivates robots with "fatfingers".
Figures out to stop an entire city of 60 square miles being teleported away by a planet phasing through it, within seconds. He's's using his hypermind to precisely calculate the precise vibrational frequency of entire planet's worth of vibrationary phasing concentrated on on city-sized area and counter it, with his calculations factoring in thousands of people, as well as buildings, animals, etc.
Champions #13 - Worlds Collide: Part 2; [Untitled]
He's constantly running the numbers in his head, and when he can't do anything, hands the reins over to Dark Chulk
Incredible Hulk #713 - Return To Planet Hulk Part V
Runs the numbers to escape heat seekers.
Incredible Hulk #713 - Return To Planet Hulk Part V
Manages to outsmart and catch the purple monster, who could read and predict blows. Guess who it got that from?
Ghost Rider #1 - Four On the Floor Part One; Pyston Nitro Strikes
Just a little Intelligence flex
Champions (2016) #11
Can speak math and uses it to know the right amount of force to use
Champions (2016) #16-17
Strength
Thunderclaps
Thunderclaps, overpowering T'challa's sonic attacl and throwing back T'achalla's hulkbuster
Totally Awesome Hulk #10
Thunderclaps, temporarily stopping a mine from collapsing
Champions (2016) #1
Thunderclaps away Sandman
Spider-Man #239
Raw Strength
I'd say it's worth noting that Cho being a hulk has no qualms against using his raw strength to slam and cripple and use the environment around him, rather than simply hitting.
Throws a sinking cruise ship back above water
Totally Awesome Hulk #3
Stops a hit from Jane Thor who thinks he's become a villain quite easily one handed while trying to explain to her what is going on.
Totally Awesome Hulk #6
Matches strength with then loki-smashes Devil Dinosaur to submission. Normally this would be an anti-feat if anything but devil dinosaur in this series was wanked to be capable of beating up the wrecking crew, ragdolling the warriors three, literally stomping the super skrull, bending stark and richard's best cage, knocking back a pre-cosmos creature that no-sold a black hole and was shrugging off Dr Strange, and matching strength with the thing.
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #4
Matches strength with current thing.
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #14
Together with Cap Marvel, effortlessly oneshots Gorgon
Agents Of Shield #6
Restrains a bloodlusted Hercules together with Jen
Civil War II: Gods of War #1
Catches then rips through a tentacle monster's tetacles. Said tentacles were catching and throwing ships and no-selling viv and cyclops
Monster's Unleashed #1
Stops the Hell Charger dead for a couple pages
Ghost Rider (2016) #3
When he stops holding back, Loki-smashes reyes hard enough to cause him to need to amp up.
Ghost Rider (2016) #3
Casually breaks the arm of a creature with his own durability and some street leveller's abilities.
Ghost Rider (2016) #4
Throws might hard enough to completely punch a hole through a building sized monster that no-sold off multiple attacks from nova and blasts from Cyclops
Champions #1.MU
Catches a falling space shuttle and puts it back on course
Totally Awesome Hulk #19
Manhandles a secondary adamantum cyborg with some of his power and all of warpath's, lady Deathstrike, OML, and sabretooth. Warpath under pak could rip apart bunkers and tear through the Winter Guard.
Totally Awesome Hulk #20
Crumples secondary adamantium
Crumples more secondary adamantium
Weapon X (Vol. 5) #6
oneshots Lady Deathstrike, Sabertooth, and Old Man Logan with a throwdown
Totally Awesome Hulk #22
Overpowers and holds down a weapon H prototype while amadeus has 6 claws through his hands
Totally Awesome Hulk #22
overpowers sasquatch and slams him on snowbird, taking them both temporarily out of the fight.
Then goes on to oneshot slam puck. Captain marvel was worried that he'd lay out all of alpha flight.
Then later on that issue, Dashes forward and stops Snowguard's battle form in it's tracks, taking a bite as well. Sasquatch was failing to accomplish this despite grabbing on to her by surprise and having captain marvel and viv, blasting Amka. Snowguard went on in later issues to stalemate man thing in a weaker form.
Champions #21
Striking
Tremor Taps:
1.Totally Awesome Hulk #18
2.Champions (2016) #14
Oneshot KO's monster for a couple of seconds. I wouldn't have included this but lady Hellbender later took this monster and let him go, after she let that monster go it was said every one of them that she let go and was attacking was as strong as she hulk. This specific monster wasn't there on panel but could have been there. Do with that as you will.
Totally Awesome Hulk #1
Breaks out of fin fang foom's mouth then oneshots him. This is the same year where it took both Iron Man and captain marvel to open his mouth and they were nearly incapable of hurting him.
Totally Awesome Hulk #3
Oneshots FFF again, though Foom was distracted
Totally Awesome Hulk #3
Probably his best striking feat. When cutting loose 6 shots a bunker that Grey and Gravage Hulk, Ares, Grey she hulk couldn't scratch over the course of a night, Classic Hulk exhausted himself breaking, was nuke-proof, and only was similarly damaged (got a hole punched in it) by Rulk. To solidify the consistency, Pak was fully aware how powerful the bunker was, he wrote Ares failing to scratch it, Rulk punching a hole in it and that issue mentioned that Gravage Hulk couldn't break it.
Totally Awesome Hulk #8
Carves a gargantuan note on a mountain range, setting off a seismic alert.
Oneshots Devil Dinosaur [10 tons] several blocks away
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #4
His fight with current thing threatens to destroy Yancy street before they double KO each other.
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #14
Casually knocks OML from Manhattan to Brooklyn through buildings in 3 hits.
Old Man Logan #2
Hurts super adaptoid with the combined durability of nova (alexander) , iron man, and himself, and a couple others.
Then swats MODOK into the sky
Avengers Featuring Hulk and Nova #4
Casually punches a hole through an Atlantean battleship
Champions #4
Destroys the Psycho-man's box
Champions (2016) #12
Beats down a High evolutionary Ani-man together with herc, then hits it so hard that the avengers could tie it up. What makes this feat impressive is the creature no-sold a blast from nova and what make sit even more impressive is that Amadeus left the creature to fight hercules while he figured out it's ship, and it got past Hercules. It's worth mentioning that later on one of these things each occupied Herc and Jane thor for 23 minutes.
Champions (2016) #13
Later on, when the ani-men withheld the champions and avengers for 30 minutes, Cho took on the singular biggest ani-man there (by a good bit) the whole time.
Completely oneshots and kills a huge metal dragon by going straight through its chest.
Totally Awesome Hulk #14
Oneshots 3 separate times Aliens that called people like Ms Marvel Paper and that survived an explosion the sized of their building sized-ships. Nearly liquified one of them later on after being weakened.
1.Totally Awesome Hulk #15
2.Totally Awesome Hulk #16
3.Totally Awesome Hulk #17
Brings down a building sized armored spaceship then no-sells it landing on his head
Totally Awesome Hulk #16
Casually oneshots a monster that dwarfed an oil platform and fishing liners
Monsters Unleashed #1
sends Reyes GR and his hellcharger flying, showing the difference between him holding back and him not.
Ghost Rider (2016) #3
Probably his second best striking feat. While resisting Xemnu's TP, hits Xemnu hard enough to oneshot him then throws him out to sea, and was capable of killing him.
Totally Awesome Hulk #1.MU
Consistently shatters secondary adamantium cyborgs
1,3.Weapon X #4
2. Totally Awesome Hulk #19
Stalemates Pre-core breach Savage Hulk, levelling a few cliffs in the process.
Later that issue, Knocks down a building sized monster that could survive ocean floor pressures and was no-selling the millitary's best
Generations: The Totally Awesome Hulk and Banner Hulk #1
Hurts a weapon H prototype
Totally Aweosme Hulk #22
When not holding back fodderizes some hulk clones
Durability
Tanks getting loki-smashed by the possibly she hulk level monster.
Totally Aweosme Hulk #1
Shrugs off a punch from fin fang foom
Then smiles off fin fang foom, who was said to be 6000 tons an issue earlier, falling on him.
Totally Awesome Hulk #3
Laughs off a Mine collapsing on him
Champions (2016) #1
Takes multiple attacks from Devil Dinosaur
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #4
Tanks a sucker punch from Thing and then goes on to stalemate him.
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #14
Tanks a sucker punch from a she-hulk level monster
Totally Awesome Hulk #4
Compilation of Cyclops being innefective;
1-2. Champions #2
3. Champions #6
4. Champions #8
5. Avengers #672 - Worlds Collide: Part One; [Untitled]
Tanks getting ganged up on by a horde of she hulk level monsters A
Totally Awesome Hulk #4
Acidproof and ship-crushing tentacle proof
Monsters Unleashed #1
Tanks several hits from the hell charger and utterly no-sells a kick from Robbie Reyes
Ghost Rider #3
Amadeus was capable of tanking a kick from Jane Thor and casually catching her hammer.
The Totally Awesome Hulk #6 - The Hulk In the Mirror Part 2
Tanks attacks from General Phalkan's spears, which were powerful enough to teleport a portion of Manhattan dozens of millions of lightyears.
The Totally Awesome Hulk #16 - Big Apple Showdown: Part 2
Is the only one left standing other than fin fang foom who gets fodderized after the planet-razing leviathan mother comes around. Nova, Vision, and i believe Rogue were all KO'ed, and Jane Thor was on her hands and knees unmoving
Monsters Unleashed #5
Sits on a blast that would have levelled a house
Champions (2016) #7
Tanks multiple lasers that were capable of breaking through Ironheart's shields and easily perforating Sam Alexander
Tanks explosions that obliterate secondary adamantium.
Then no-sells re-entry
The Totally Awesome Hulk #19 - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Prelude
Tanks his eyes being gouged out, a mini-nuke and a several mile fall, and it just makes him angrier.
The Totally Awesome Hulk #21 - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Part 4
Stalemates pre-core breach hulk and then goes on to tank a sucker punch from him
Generations: Banner Hulk & Totally Awesome Hulk #1
Tanks a beatdown from the hulkverine as he's trying to talk it down. The shockwave of this beatdown caused a chasm to form at surface level, despite the fact that they were 100 feet down. the crack devastated building and stretched from the outskirts of the town onwards.
Then goes on to take 2 hits from weapon H that level the town they were fighting in
The Totally Awesome Hulk #22 - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Conclusion
The Tsar Bomba is only used to piss him off
Tanks a lightning amped beating from Unworthy Thor while heavily weakened. They were both quite weakened, but Jarnjborn didn't lose any of it's power and Thor didn't lose any ability to channel lightning. One of these blows from Thor were powerful enough to crack the crust of Sakaar and have Thor be called the Worldbreaker, so take that as you will.
Incredible Hulk #711-712
While weakened, tanks a barrage of attacks from the warlord then no-sells a nuke.
Incredible Hulk #713 - Return To Planet Hulk Part V
while being held back by sasquatch, tanks a punch from snowbird's bear form, which was able to goe toe to toe with ameratsu mikaboshi's orignal god form
then goes on to tank a blow from Snowguard's strongest form
Champions #21 - Northern Lights Conclusion
Resists enchanted uru weaponry meant to rival Mjolnir wielded by multi-tonners and only gets a small cut on the cheek for it. These guys were overwhelming him and Jane.
The Totally Awesome Hulk #6 - The Hulk In the Mirror Part 2
Freezing resistance
Sonics resistance
Then resists enough spores to KO a blue whale
Resists his own energy absorbed, magnified, and redirected against him by T'challa's hulkbuster. resists it for 6 pages, with at least 4 being visible.
Totally Awesome Hulk #10-11
When pissed, completely shrugs off a slice from a beign who was getting stronger and that was carving through him when calm
A monster with his strength can't get through his skin
Ghost Rider #1 - Four On the Floor Part One; Pyston Nitro Strikes
A creature that had his powers and beetle like skin was adamantium proof to someone of Laura's strength. Cho certainly isn't but do with that as you will.
Then no-sells Wolverine's bone claws with his own strength behind them to the point where they shatter on his skin.
Ghost Rider #2 - Four On the Floor Part Two
Resists Xemnu's TP to the point where Xemnu had to drop his control of everyone in Seoul to focus on Amadeus, and Amadeus could still hide a thought from him
The Totally Awesome Hulk #1.MU - Flawless Victory; Mind Over Monsters; Math Is Magic
Ignores Enchantress' manipulations, only previously going along with it because Dark Chulk wanted an axe.
The Totally Awesome Hulk #6 - The Hulk In the Mirror Part 2
Gets sliced by robots with adamantium claws plus the speed of lady deathstrike, sabertooth, and old man logan,and the strength of warpath, and flight capabilities, for over a page, and only suffers skin level damage.
The Totally Awesome Hulk #19 - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Prelude
Gets sliced by twenty cyborgs with adamantium claws, warpath's strength driving them, flight capabilities,plus the speed of lady deathstrike, sabertooth, and old man logan, for 4 pages straight, and, even during those 4 pages+, can still discuss with sabertooth and domino, and immediately afterwards is in a fighting state and is fine. His wounds also don't seem to be that deep.
Weapon X (2017) #5
Lady Deathstrike can only give him a cat scratch
The Totally Awesome Hulk #20 - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Part 2
Some moere adamantium robots donly doing surface level damage. It took portions of his own power to actually start ripping through him in this arc.
Weapon X (2017) #6
Jarnjborn propelled by a weakened odinson does similarly surface level damage
