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@COBRAMORPH: I think you are severely underestimating the training and skills that Black Canary and Huntress have. First of all, Black Canary IS one of the best fighters in the DCU, through her own work and training with Wildcat. Ted Grant is a master of more than just boxing (the list you can read here on his page here at comicvine), is also a pilot during WWII and for the JSA. Black Canary has held her own or defeated some very dangerous martial artists in the world, this list including Lady Shiva who she traded places with so, while Shiva served on the Birds, Dinah went through Shiva's training.

Huntress is also an exceptional combatant. She has a great level of natural tenacity in a fight, something that gained Shiva's respect when Helena stepped in for Dinah to fight her during the last pre-New 52 BoP volume, as well as natural skill for combat. While not the most skilled fighter, what Helena brings to the table has kept her not only alive, but let her overcome better fighters than her, although Dinah still outstrips her by a fairly large margin.

You rank Barbara as the highest? The first time that Helena and Barbara met when the ladder was still Batgirl, Huntress beat her in three pages beat her easily. Here is a link so you can see the fight itself: http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/batgirl-babs-vs-huntress/26023/?page=3 Barbara was never that good of a fighter, even though Batman trained her some, she just didn't take to it and the jobbing Nightwing did to her during her New 52 book was just Simone trying to make Barbara better than she is. Her best skills always lay with her mind, but never H2H.

The training that Zinda has from serving in the military is WWII is based on quick and effective techniques designed to take a foe down quickly yes, but there is something that you have to remember: Dinah, Helena, nor Babs use the "sport" versions of their martial arts. They know the true deal and they also use was works from what they know. Zinda can take a blow, she and throw a mean punch, but against her two fellows in Dinah and Helena, she falls decidedly short of being able to beat them and against Dinah would be lucky to land a hit.

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@Press Oblivion: It was his first encounter with Doomsday and so he wasn't really sure what he was up against as he later became.  He was also super-speeding around saving lives so he was burning up his solar reserves faster leading Superman to hit with less for later in the fight than if he had stayed with DD the entire time.
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The Spectre, Nabu, Mordru, Ares (DC), Trigon, Michael Demigurgous, Lucifer, Etrigan,  Annataz, Franklin Richards,Onslaught

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@ApatheticAvenger said:

Claremont, hands down.

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Etrigan. It's Blaze he's going against not Dan Ketch

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Well with standard equipment Deathstroke walks around in Prometheum mesh armor and sword (He may or may not have his staff, made of it as well ). Deathstroke's healing factor is also a factor that has to be put into play and though I've heard the in the New 52 it's not as good as it was, it's still a factor a Predator does not have, that I've seen. With three days Deathstroke is going to be able to a main plan of attack with contingency plans for almost every single path the battle could take. The longer the battle goes on the more likely it is to be in Slade's favor as well as he'll start having face to face knowledge with Wolf and begin to learn how he fights and reacts due to his supercomputer of a brain. Taking the other effects of his ehancements and it pulls further towards his favor.

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Leaders: Mr. Majestic and Helspont

Heavy Hitters: Darkseid, KC Superman, Thor, Orion, and Gladiator

Groundforces: Batman, Ultimate Captain America, Cassandra Cain, and Black Panther

Rulers of the Sky: The Darkness (Jackie Estacado) Storm, Binary, Kyle Rayner, Ganthet, Hal Jordan

Mental Masters: Professor Xavier, Dark Phoenix, Betsy Braddock (Pre-body switch), and Tao

Misc: Nova (Annihilation Wave) and Thanos

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@CitizenBane: He knows that he needs a human to have the proper judgement to deam out vengeance but he didn't seek out Crispus. The Presence had already bound him to his spirit (Infinite Crisis 4) after he killed Nabu. Dead Again was just his trying to convince Crispus to completely bond. I don't believe the Presence would've allowed the Spectre complete free roam after DoV so there still had to be a connetion between the two. However, this has gotten away from what I was saying to start with xD and that is Corrigan should be brought back as the Spectre's host due to the reasons we've both given.

Though I do want to say one more thing. Yes I agree the Spectre could very well be a plot device in many of the heavy battles but the reason I cited Black Adam's rampage and Allen allow it was because it was specifically brought up, and by the Martian Manhunter I believe, and his being held back by Allen with the book even showing Crispus sitting on a roof which the Spectre partially formed behind him.

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@CitizenBane: You're forgetting that at the start of Day of Vengeance the Spectre stated that he was loosing his focus and all of his faculties weren't there because he was left unbound. That is not his fault and he knew that something was wrong with him. Eclipso, using Jean Loring's body, took advantage of that and manipulated him into thinking that magic was the root of all evil which caused his slaughter of magical people.