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@geekryan: Mary's drawback is still the smoke screen defense preventing targeting, and Jason (and his equipment) have ignored burning enough that he can deal with her.

Jason counters Mary, Cass drops Jessica via nerve strike, it doesn't matter if Dick fights Elektra or Echo because he has plenty of skill and also a large physicals and gear advantage over either, and it doesn't matter who Damian is left with or even if he wins after that because the numbers turn the the Bats' favor. All it takes is for Jason to use his precog and call out the opponents.

There still isn't an argument against Jason taken them all out quickly with lightning.

I think Mary's pyro is the biggest issue here and that could do serious damage, but given Jason's resistance shown it take a lot away from her ability to take it.

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@shroudofsorrow: DC "peak human" is far above peak human. Dick and Jason both considerably outstat everyone on the Daredevil team except Jessica.

When I get a chance to add some scans I'll show what Jason can do with his speed + precog, but I'll point out that Jessica is not faster than a blanket of electrical attack.

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@shroudofsorrow: Smoke screens and stealth make it easier to tag Jessica in a variety of ways, and the entire Bat team might be faster than you think.

Jason has precog abilities from his mystical training so it's not a safe assumption that he won't use the taser blast early in the fight. ;-)

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@shroudofsorrow: Jason's been too much for Cass, Dick, and Tim at the same time not long ago.

Jessica is physically the strongest here but her speed, skill, and durability are more questionable while that strength still doesn't answer the taser attack proposed as a winning move.

I'd argue Cass takes Jessica out with a single nerve strike, tbh.

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@the_hajduk: Yes, and I think she could be the biggest threat here.

The issue is we've seen Jason has shown decent resistance to telepathy and flames. Telekinesis is a good defense against things like blades and grenades but focusing on that will prevent her from focusing on other attacks.

Mary also usually needs to see to attack and all the batbrats are loaded with smoke screen equipment.

I don't believe team Daredevil's meta powers are enough to deal with team Batman's gear and technology advantages. 3 out of 4 of the batbrats are consistently significant threats to Batman.

I'll see if I can find time to grab scans later today if you want to look for a defense against Jason's electrical blasts

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@ashrym said:
@allstarsuperman said:

Red Hood tasers >>>>>

Probably this.

Does a taser really hardcounter friggin Elektra that badly?! I feel like a taser is the least of her concerns.

The taser is a mass target AoE that could drop Artemis Grace, blow holes through walls of ice, or ruin large pieces of equipment. It was 150 000 volts before it was upgraded to an unknown voltage.

Jason's cleared out extremely large spaces like Queen Bee's troops, Shay Veritas's clones, or Gizmo's army of replicators overwhelming the Teen Titans when he rescued them with it. The issue is it drains power fast and he's only shown 2 good shots with it before it was presumably drained. The first shot should really be enough here.

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Dosen't Elektra have telepathy of some sort

She does but Mary has better and neither really uses it much. Red Hood has the TP resistance feats for either.

Red Hood tasers >>>>>

Probably this.