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Scalling against stablished marvel characters

so far we have spent to much time only dwelling on feats related to creatures of the nine realms so i feel it´s not clear yet how the gods interact with most of the MU

Many people like to take what is in the handbook as a gospel/ perfect truth when that is not nearly the case and even take stuff out of context. People say for example that spiderman can only lift up to 25/30 tons when that is not nearly the case, the class system is meant to be seen as a scale between the characters and do not take precedence to established feats

ex: a class 25 is in theory ¼ the strength of a class 100 for example, if this doesn't contradict both of their feats

Because of this people like to complain that the gods should be stronger and more powerful. While i agree for some part, i think for the most part they are quite well balanced in the marvel universe with some interesting feats

fair warning Aaron gave some feats that are arguably better than the others that asgardians were previosly showed

Without further ado let´s talk of feats shall we?

Amora

Although she is a not particularly strong asgardian, in fact quite average stats, two shot a spiderman villain who in theory should be as strong as she.

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(strike) Here is Amora backhanding early she hulk who is surprised at her strength (to be honest she hulk got a lot stronger as the time went by and this feat is outdated)

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(durability) Amora takes hits from wonderman

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(magic/energy) Amora one shoting early hulk and Thing (both have gotten much stronger than when that happened)

(magic/energy)hurting war Thor

(magic)casualy creates fodder strong enough that calm cho merely chips

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(blade/strike)It seems the same being that Sif to cut the hand of and Thor one shoted

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(hype/context) Vollstagg seem to consider fighting two stone colossus suicide ( or at least to one who is untrained)

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(limits) Sufice to say she is not an phisical powehouse. She has been one shoted by Hulk, She Hulk and even cap America

and Thing and Hulk has been able to resist her blasts

skurge

(strike) skurge can trade punches with hulk

(strike) and thing (Marvel two in one #7)

(strike) as well as dent iron man

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Skurge and Amora

(strike/magic) can threaten to defeat strange. He can force strange´s shields to the point that strange´s has to focus in his front shields making him vulnerable to an attack to the back. ( it kinda wasn´t the true Skurge but some mortal that Amora trasmuted to be like him)

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(context) Strange says he can deal with one of them at the time tho (and i think he did defeat them)

Karnilla

(energy) easily overpower a surfer Bullrush

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Frigga

Valkyrie

(strike)From incredible hulk(142), valkyrie can hurt classic hulk in meele

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(strike) and even use pressure point to knock him out and hurl him from the empire state building destroying a building.

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(context)Hulkwas not hitting back because she is a woman (?)

(strike) knocks away namor (defenders 5)

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(strike) hurts Namor and Hulk at the same time (defenders 5)

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(strike) even last year, Valkyrie could hurt Hulk and thor with her punches (marvel tarot1 and 2)

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(strike) hurt and take punches from she hulk, tundra and etc

(blade) defeat war machine (after some fight)

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(blade) Cuts Rulk quite deep (it didn´t do much tho and he is weaker to cutting objects)

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(Limit) she is clearly weaker than RedHulk

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(limit) or regular hulk for that matter

Volstagg

(durability/strike)overpowered the blasts and destroyed 3 doombots with what appears to be one punch

here is their RT

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-the-doombot-2066251/

(strength) Vollstagg one shots Osborn. which is impressive cause just before he catched the punch of Luke Cage

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(context) I mean cage can do some impressive stuff like making the earth tremble, one shot rhino but Osborn catched his punch like a ball in the park

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hogun

(strike/weapon) One shot gamora

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Hildergard

(strike) deals massive damange to warstar with punches

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Sif

(durability) shrugg off this hit better than cap Marvel and amped Shulk (war of realms 1)

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Heimdall

(durability) outperforms everyone present, including thing in dealing with amped Laufey breath, maybe he brought his coat or something (war of realms 6)

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(durability) survives a massive bullrush by Gladiator

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(reflexes) blocks his heat vision (?)

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Balder

(durability) survives an sentry bullrush

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Loki

(strike) Loki´s punches can fell silversurfer, tank his attack and he physically overpower him.

(context) Important to note that Surfer was not patircularly hurt by this

(magic) Loki with his magic has been to much for classic strange

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(context) The new loki is weaker than the old Loki (agent of asgard 6)

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(magic) Nowadays a weaker Loki tricked strange into thinking it has went to a torney to be the Sorceror Supreme

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(magic/durability/energy) As sourceror supreme Loki has outmagic many expert magicians and fought with an amped Strange, that was able to turn a hell into a paradise like dimension. The source was Ygdrasil itself (Dr strange 384)

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(magic/shields) And make a shield that could contain the void and sentry.

(context) This is even more impressive when thinking that this void is the opposite of the sentry that was receiving the "price" for all the magic that amped stephen was doing (turning an entire dimension for example)

(magic) Loki does easily what strange says it is quite hard "because he is a god" (doctor strange 385)

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(magic) Loki was able to absorb all magic in the world and bring it back

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(durability)And just so we are clear: He is not spider-man level

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(durability/strike/weapon)This random, as in not in the royal family and never showed before Asgardian, named Milenius can contend quite well with defeats Thor and silver silver one after the other and them kinda fights them both but is defeated (Thor and Silver Surfer 98)

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He is kinda lame tho

Frigg, Ellisiv and Atli, the Goddesses of Thunder (grandaughters of Thor)

(weapon/lighting) Thor´s grandaughters fight Goom, Gorgilla and Monstrum , three classical marvel monsters and make quick work of them

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(context) the most impressive of them, goom is able to survive punchs from early Hulk altough he is hilariosly outmatched

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(Weapon/striking/lighting) Somewhat hurt old Galactus

(weapon/lighting) hurt Gorr

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(weapon/lighting) destroy his constructs

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(weapon/lighting) Even decap him

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(weapon)hurt "old god emperor Doom" by taking him by surprise withstormbraker

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(context) when he knew they were coming hi deflected all their attacks, with no trouble

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Important to note their leader has the stormbreaker so she maybe shares the same feats as Avenger Thor (?)

(limit) Heimdall Gladiator´s eye beam, he says he is unstopable and is defeated by him

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(Limit)Heimdall is bfr by Hulk

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Special units: Valkyries

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Some of Odin finest warriors and the legendary all female group that serves as asgard pshyncomp

(durability) Valkyrie survives a fall strong enough that she made a small crater

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Special units: Thunder guard

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Have enchanted iron armor and weapons

(weapon) make Jane Thor struggle and bleed with hammerstrike

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(weapon) rain hammers on Jane Thor and defeat her

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(blade/weapon) Cut the wrecking ball in half (iluminati 5)

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(context) Hulk and Herc has been able to do with some struggle destroy it

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(Durability) Can survive getting hit by Mjolnir

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("antifeat") I have never seen anyone bringing this up but i should adress before they do: Titania only defeated them because Hood sold his soul or something. Titania was amped and around Thor level (iluminati 5)

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(limit) modern Sentry takes a bunch of them

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Special unit : the worthy

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Parasitic beings around Thor level

(Hype) The event of fear itself is generating enough energy that it is "threatening to surpass the power cosmic" (fear itself the deep issue 1)

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(Hype) Suported by the Watcher showing up

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(Hype) the passing hammers threatened to tear the stars out of aligment (fear itself the deep issue 2)

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(Hype/weapons)The hammers are said to be able to destroy worlds

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(hype) very consistent with the whole "Thor level" thing

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(Hype) Kuurth by himself is stronger than Colossunaut to the point his bones crumble on his head and the first attack he receives makes his skull crack. remember for most of the fight Kuurth was also amped by Cytorak

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(Hype)thing have never been stronger

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(Hype) Absorbing man outright says he is amped

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(context) they hold back to get maximum fear out of their victims

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(strike/weapon) Angrir (Thing) is able to destroy Sue´s shields

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(strength) Hulk using the amp that he got from Null´s rage and overall strength, breaks his mystical hammer

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(strike/weapon) Attuma is able to overpower and fight off the whole defenders (fear itself the deep issue 4)

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(strength) He outright overpowered a Surfer bullrush

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(strength/power) attuma vs alpha flight
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(strike/weapon) hitting weapon wreck a city

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(strike) very easily wreck a city

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Warrior´s might

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We got to the juicy part. Here we see the stats and power of the regular and a few named Asgardians along with their battle effectiveness and other battle aplicable stuff

Fodder/Army

(Hype) Average children could destroy our best "war machines"

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(Hype) are said to be the toughest panthons on the know universe by a random alien

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(Hype) A "handfull of the finest Asgardians" are worth thousands of people of earth

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(Hype) In average they are about as tough as spiderman. Handbook´s suport this

(Hype) The asgardians are treated with much respect in S.H.I.E.L.D. Everyone of them is said to be difficult to defeat and many of them require ares and/or Sentry

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Interesting points:

  • Almost impossible to break the asgardians will
  • "It will take someone of the highest weight classto deal with Balder" "Ares and/or Sentry"Can´t think of a way to confound Heimdall´s senses
  • Sif is a significant adversary on her own
  • They don´t even have a plan to defeat Thor. "It will take the combined effort of all of our most powerful resources to take Thor down
  • In Siege, most of Osborn army was amped by the norn stones

(Hype) Anansi calls them " among the most powerfull of our cousins"

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(durability) Loki and lorelei are very confortable to jump from an airplane

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(Hype) One of my favorite feats comes in (warlock and the infinity watch #25) that shows just how strong the Asgardian army can be when even somewhat prepared for war:

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Thanos said that the asgardians would would overwhelm grup that consisted of Gamora, moondragon,Drax, Strange, Adam warlok, Silver Surfer and Maxam "whitin minutes ". The strongest named Asgardian was Balder and Odin was nowhere to be seen yet. Sidenote that each individual Asgardian were being defeated quite easily however due to the sheer power of the team and Thanos was enough to turn the tide of the battle, however.

some asgardians were blasted by Adam, Drax, Thanos and surfer but we don´t know if they survive so i won´t put it here

(context) To show consistency a troll army just before defeated the infinity watch (even tho they used gas against Drax and Maxam) Warlok chronicles 7

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(Hype) Amped Surfist (altough he doesn´t know it yet) says that Asgard has incredible powers and is a threat.

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(Hype) The asgardian army has been compared as more or less equal to Thor with Mjolnir

(hype) regular/fodder asgardians fight against cosmic demons, created by galactus to distract Odin (mighty Thor 2011 issue 4)

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(context)here we see Thor hitting amadeus once, him being surrounded and hit by many regular asgardians he gets up hits them and is hit again by

thor which destroy his bannertech shields. (thor hit him 2 i think and at most 3)

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(context) Banner´s shields being able to hold punches from hulk level characters and even 4 earthquakes level punches from juggernaut without being destroyed. Or even tank hits from both Bi-Beast and Wendigo with both hands and Armaggedon (hulk heart of monster )

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(hype/magic) Fodder mages unfreeze the pacif ocean and a bunch of asgardian and avengers (Thor 2014 issue 4)

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(Hype) When prepared to war the asgardian army could destroy a planet

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Warriors three

(durability) warriors three and Skadhir survive their ship exploding and cause a explosion when they fall

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Frandral

(speed/reactions) Fandral, suposedly the best swordsman in Asgard, thinks taskmaster amped by the norn stones is just as good as him

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(speed/reactions) fandral can redirect an missle

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Hogun

survives this (incredible hulk 122)

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(speed) jumps over a lighting (thor 386)

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Volstagg

(strength) overpowered being dogpiled by many trolls (in average class 25) (warrors three 2)

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(durability) volstagg who ia supposed to be just a bit stronger than the average asgardian catched this bomb:

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(durability) not only survived but blocked this attack:

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(strength/durability) meaning his force had to be at least equal the explosion

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(durability) Volstaggtook the explosion that evaporated thousands of light elves

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(strength) in another "joke" at Vollstagg´s weight, he makes the earthshake (don´t remember if its his stomach, his weight or etc).

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Sif

(durability) survives a shot from bill´s ship and crashes on the ground (but bill took most of the latter)

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(strength) break a door of bill´s ship

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(strength) cut a head so hard it throwed the head out of broxton

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(strength) broke a column

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(speed/reactions) sif can block an energy blast

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(strength) blocks this attack

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(durability)The destroyer defeats an Gar-toom, that claims to have the power of a living mountain in three shots...then does the same to Sif (Thor#440)

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(durability) The destroyer hits Thor and Sif so hard the seismic detectors register activity as far away as Washington and "within a one mile radio each blow causes windows to shatter foundations to shake and walls to collapse (Thor 1998 issue 37)

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Amora

(durability/magic) amora with a kamikaze bullrush destroyed the peak of a mountain. She was knocked out, but alive in the injurie

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Hildegard

(strength) Hildegard destroys shiar´s war machine with her hands

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(strength) an hold the weakneed shiar god

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Heimdall

(strike/durability) Daredevil with Heimdall´s powers could fight on against Laufey freeze breath which was pushing even the Thing away

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(durability/strength) Could somewhat hurt and fight with ulik (near Thor strength), although he lost in the end

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Royal family

(speed/reactions) Baldur can deflect a bullet (Thor 609)

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(speed/skill) Fought "the most skilled giant" with a magical sword, that makes the wielder "invencible" and won (balder the brave 3)

(durability) Baldur´s armor (?) survives a direct hit by a ice giant´s axe to the face
(durability) Baldur´s armor (?) survives a direct hit by a ice giant´s axe to the face
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(power) Baldur´s light was enough to melt the realm of Utgarth Loki (Thor 367)

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(strength/power) Baldurfights a small giant (Balder, the brave issue 3)

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(durability) Gar-Toomappears again, defeating a balder by punching him by surprise and chocking him

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Loki

(durability) Loki tanks a small montain busting punch and is only dazed

Frigg, Ellisiv and Atli, the Goddesses of Thunder (grandaughters of Thor)
Frigg, Ellisiv and Atli, the Goddesses of Thunder (grandaughters of Thor)

(strength) Frigg states she can turn coal into diamond by crushing it

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(blade/striking) Atli cuts a comet

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(strike) hurt young Thor with a kick

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(durability) They survive a massive explosion created by old

galactus

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(Hype) they fight (hollow) moons powered by Gorr

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Angela

(hype) Angela only stays in the nova corps prision when she wants to stay

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(Hype) Angela has destroyed moons

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UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Ragnarok

It is ironic how Asgard´s armies best feat is in the battle when they all die, however that much is true. For a race of warriors, we do not get to see the asgardian race actually attacking other people, they mostly are surprised and do not get the chance to prepare much. We almost got to see that in the fear itself, when they almost fought with the intention of destroying the earth, but we do see what they can do when they are fighting for their lives.

The prophecy/retelling in thor #128 says that the whole universe shakes which is further supported by #fantastic four 538 .When it finally happens it weakens the tapestry of reality enough to let Doom out of hell.

The event is so powerful that feeds those who sits above the shadows, which are to gods what gods are to men . They are above even Odin and even he could not fight with them, so it's pretty impressive power

Shaking universe

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Shatter time and space

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The battle is so hard fought and of such big proportions that weakens the walls of reality and rip a hole in Hell.

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most of the monsters are using a replica of Mjolnir, still they fight

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@professorrespect: Thanks for the tag

Kang is an insane character and i always tought he was very interesting. But what´s up with him and that many versions of him fighting himself damn

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because all of them are OBVIOUSLY universes that means he's multi universal for withstanding such a fall, herp de derp

lol
@professorrespect:
Have you done Mogo? have you any interest in DC characters?

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@professorrespect:
Great job as always and well as everyone says veeery fast dude wtf

Do you think you could add the ammount of heroines fighting alonside Wanda and Karnilla against it? I mean there is 2 Thor level beings, Frigga who (idk if there is context but) vaporized the world serpent and like more than ten other heroines...it is kind of impressive

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@professorrespect:

i have one reference for how big the planet is

Gorr´s bomb is said to be moon sized twice (one by Thor and the other by aaron)

http://i.imgur.com/PeUMCJL.jpg
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his second answer

Then let´s look at the size of the bomb next to it:

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https://i.imgur.com/hOiQCUx.jpg

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Broo impressive as always.

What is his backstoy again? I forgot

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