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MUNDUS VS ARES: debunking the dark prince and proving Ares superiority

many people think the GOW gods are weak compared to other beings (like DMC devils) but is this true? lets compare the boss battles of Ares the original god of war to Mundus the dark prince.

ARES VS KRATOS

MUNDUS VS DANTE

epic fights right? many people would say that Mundus in that fight is far superior to ares, however I think this is false. let me just de-bunk a few things about the mundus fight.

MISCELLANEOUS DE-BUNKS

  • Mundus and Dante did not fight/fly at MFTL speeds, in fact their entire fight took place on one planet either in its atmosphere or on the ground. this is evidenced by how for most of their fight they were flying around in clouds.
  • Mundus never performed any combat feats on planet level as some people think. his asteroid attacks were small and made no craters on the ground when they struck.
  • the comic feat where "merged the demon and human worlds" is ambiguous and is easily debunked as it is likely simply saying he conquered the human world and brought it under his dark reign. he is never actually shown "merging" realms.

now that we got those out of the way lets get to the feat everyone cares about, Mundus supposed universe creation and lets compare it with Ares universe creation!

DID MUNDUS CREATE A UNIVERSE?

some people think the creator of DMC said mundus created a universe however his reply was very vague and can be interpreted differently. lets take a look at the feat:

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now there are two things that can explain this feat far more easily than creating a universe:

  • Mundus could have teleported them into the earths atmosphere.
  • Mundus could have teleported them to another dimension like hell.

considering other than this one feat mundus never showed anything on universal or even planetary level it seems much more logical that mundus teleported them rather than created a universe.

another explanation is that Mundus did create something but it was only a pocket dimension of unknown size (likely planetary) and the stars are just an illusion on the boundaries of the dimension. this theory has evidence to back it up because (a) mundus never showed universal power otherwise so if he created something it was likely far less than a universe and (b) Dante was able to stand on the "vacuum" of space as if it was normal ground, seemingly showing that the space around the atmosphere in which they fought was a solid barrier AKA the walls of the dimension.

which of these explanations is true I don't know, but either way it is far more logical to assume these theories are true than that Mundus created a universe.

now let me show you a feat most people just glance over when talking about GOW gods, ares creation.

ARES UNIVERSE/POCKET DIMENSION

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now your probably thinking, "Your a GOW wanker! this can be debunked with the same debunks as mundus feat!" well firstly watch your language :D, secondly the debunks actually don't work so well for this feat.

WHY THE TELEPORTING DEBUNK DOESNT WORK

Unlike the mundus feat which took place in the atmosphere of a planet which was likely earth or in hell and can easily be explained as simple teleporting it is clear the place Ares BFRed Kratos was fully made by the god of war and not just another place in the universe:

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the place Kratos landed was a floating landmass with the building he killed his family in and it was full of the minions of ares. The entire thing was devilishly recreated by ares to punish kratos, complete with his living family and an army of evil dopplegangers. this was not simply some other planet, this was a dimension custom made to punish Kratos.

thus the teleporting debunk doesn't work unless you think somewhere in the GOW universe there was conveniently a floting landmass made of kratos worst nightmares.

WHY THE POCKET DIMENSION DEBUNK WORKS, BUT NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT

While I do think ares only created a pocket dimension and NOT a universe I also find ares feat far more impressive than mundus because while Mundus creation (if he even created anything) had planetary limits as evidenced by how the space above the atmosphere was a solid boundary, ares space was actually a vacuum and had swirling cosmic dust thus proving it was not just a solid boundary. from looking at both feats ares is more impressive because while mundus has clear limits ares doesn't and could very well be far larger than mundus feat, also mundus very likely didn't even create a pocket dimension while we know for a fact ares did.

COMBAT COMPARISON

Now that we got the debunks out of the way and proved Ares>Mundus in reality warping/creation lets look at the abilities they used most in combat.

MUNDUS POWERS

you can watch the fights I linked above to see if I left any out or if my assessment is accurate.

Mundus powers are:

  • flight
  • energy spikes: he can shoot them in swarms and they can pierce dante... wooo?
  • lightning bolts: just normal lightning... might just be a result of the storm they are fighting in.
  • meteors: each on the size of a person and they dont even make craters in the ground.
  • lava dragon summon: not much to say. its not giant or anything.
  • energy beams: they can destroy the rocks dante fights on and seem to be his most powerful attack. (didn't destroy thesewer they were fighting in though...)

so yea, that's pretty much it for Mundus. now lets check out ares.

ARES POWERS

you can watch the fights I linked above to see if I left any out or if my assessment is accurate. (remember to notice kratos and ares dwarf the city of Athens)

Ares powers are:

  • flight and teleportation
  • Meteors: he can spam them and each looks to be the size of a city block or larger.
  • Maul of Olympus: with the maul he can create city sized shockwaves and unleash fiery lava blasts the size of a city.
  • razor arms and a giant sword: 'nuff said.
  • Soul barrage?: ares can unleash a massive city sized attack of souls.
  • Fire manipulation: ares can unleash and manipulate flame as he did to burn an entire army.

and then there is Ares telekinesis which he used to kill many barbarians, but most impressively he used it to bring mountains from deep out of the earth and attack with them!:

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just look at the two fights, Ares is by far the more impressive of the two. the destructive power, range and versatility of ares attacks far exceeds that of Mundus.

SUMMARY

After reading through this blog it should be clear that Ares from GOW is superior to Mundus in most every way. Not only is Ares a better reality warper but he is also a greater combatant and wields powers superior to those of the Demon Lord.

Now im not trying to downplay Mundus, im just showing the facts. By feats Mundus is inferior to Ares and thus is inferior to other GOW gods like Hades, Poseidon and definitely Zeus.

I hope you have had fun reading and gained a new respect for the GOW universe :D

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