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@arcus: that was actually a really fast attack as no one knew that he would use earth that almost crushed him. it was really clutch and she dodged it with a split done in no time.

yeanot some earth but more like projectiles, with wind attack, plus two fire blasts and nothing happened again its 6 ppl it makes for a good attack. she got caught off guard by katara who she saw lose with ease to tylee etc b4 and the battle was not finished. i can pull a few times when katara was caught off guard or 1000 times to korra which does not make their defense bad. she did vaporize her water b4

again answer me since CAV is some place debaters like me wont fare well since my style is very basic and i asked u a simple question on how kuvira beats azula with all the advantages azula has.

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azula has faster lightning like in the pic below where she did with even while being tied down.

azula has superior speed feats if korra can dodge it azula who was on par with aang can do it. korra<azula in speed so i dont think kuvira is pinning her down anytime soon.

and metal conducts electricity so azula just has to zap any part of her metal which can be the wire or the suit kuvira wears

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@jrazor: thats an assumption sure she had the upper hand but as katara was pulling her closer azula could do her fire breath and break out of it by distracting katar or even hurting her. aang had been losing fights in the beginning with numi but made comebacks similar to that the fight was not over and azula proved herself against aang who is much faster than korra and toph a great earthbender.

jets are not that fast with no AS. and air vortex makes u an easy target for lightning, every other character dodged a light beam and air vortex isnt the best way its easier to dodge by using air to propel like aang does or even jumps air but vortex is not really a speed booster and she used AS to make her vortex to be really fast and dodge the beam.

korra doesnt really have great options against fire she herself isnt that good in it. and its manly lighning that would help if she starts using water.

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@arcus: he did try it once in 3 way battle but aang almost always used earth to combat azula and used air to fight zuko becuz azula was simply more agile and dodging attacks quite easily. aang used air to move a boulder against and she simply dodged it with ease. aang's actions again speak for themselves.

quantity equals quality in this case with that many ppl attacking it becomes a quite a good attack and she defended with utter ease.

that argument is good as kuvira really has no answer to azula's quicker lightning attacks and metal conducts lighting tell me how she wins. and azula can dodge most of all kuvira's attacks. i can even show vids for it but i dont need to give gifs and make it all fancy for them. i dont see the point of it as its more showboating than debating which is what those guys want. any old discussion or vs thread does the same with less effort.

but tell me why kuvira wins and how she beats azula with her quicker lightning showings.I'm interested.

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@jrazor: katara> korra in water and two katara is smarter with water than korra who is direct and easy to read. show me feats of korra being anywhere close to in speed as azula. the only person who gets beat here is korra. her lightning gives her an edge too and she has shown fast ones. katara beat azula when insane and had the upper hand once in battle she didnt even beat her.

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@arcus: why does it have to be b4 he himself tries to use earth instead becuz his air is easiy dodged and she showed that in a 3 way fight and in ba sing se where he uses air on zuko but earth on azula. his actions speak for themselves and black sun proves im even more on the right where she dodges it with ease.

defense against 6 ppl yea nice trying to down play that

i can and i have provided why azula is superior, u kno everyone says that based on their opinion right u say kuvira>azula which is an opinion. i have feats that show azula is faster since she out paced aang in black sun and more which the guy u did a CAv with showed, can produce lightning fast through her feats from comics and she has more destructive attacks such as cutting buildings in the 3 way fight, being able to destroy aang's defense of earth etc. and aang is the fastest and agile character in the show and azula can match him there and this is why she is more agile than kuvira. this is my whole argument i kno when and where it happens in the show so how can kuvira beat someone she is slower than and has weaker feats in her bending than and more importantly with it being metal how can she beat her quick lightning which would zap her metal that she uses for offense and defense.

^ this is all i would say i dont see why i have to make gifs and a long bio for something like this. and again it all comes to presentation which is stupid becuz i would just rather have a poll the whole CAV goes away from main discussion but focuses more on the individuals debating style.

if i did cav i would just copy paste my argument and show in youtube where it happens and it wont be too fun for u since its more about style etc which i honestly dont care about

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@arcus:

again i said hes blasted holes in metal and fire can make it useless. and his whips can push it aside with ease. metal is not flame resistant especially the powerful fire zuko has. where have u seen metal not been melted i said its been destroyed b4 when u use fire right and zuko has shown that .

i thought u were insinuating that adult toph is worse. my bad. but kid toph held a mine which means her raw power is way more and the stuff su yin throws is childs play. and she did most of the work on gen iron so su yin is a joke compared to feats on that scale.

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katara kisses aang and soloes. aang wins round 1 with mid diff andd loses round 2 low diff.

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@arcus: he tried and failed again, he uses earth way more becuz offensively its quite useful he was really good with it against guards since it gave him an easy win a lot faster than air did, he uses it with cman a lot and even threw pillars at him, earth was something aang believed was more useful for offense

its 6v1 with iroh in it what else could she do, the defense is what im pointing at which was good. aang used air as defense to run away so is his defense bad cuz he used it to run away.

thats just my opinion. but seriously kuvira is not amazingly special like some ppl in LOK and yet she tied korra which really bad on korra.

IMo his presentation was not good but his feats that he posted were good. and he got no single vote from ppl who would even back azula so i dont see the point as im not tech savvy to present really well. Im more just text and can show a video or a scan from a comic.like i said i can even argue it here and u can ask ppl's opinon but i wont be much fun at CAv where presentation matters. i honestly dont get the point its better to just set a poll and present two opinions on who wins instead of creating a bio for each character.like in narutobase i made a thread for korra vs aang to see how ppl would vote which gave me good understanding of popular opinion on it.

lol and i never said korra dindt do sparring i said azula had have to some training where fought others.

she didnt have too many bending battles in book 1 and pro bending doesnt count as its a game mako lost to ppl there who he can solo.

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@arcus: she was training a lot, u think she never sparred with anyone. the creators say royal training is good when an interviewer asked him is ozai not good at fighting since he was always in the palace and that ozai always practices as seen in the comics. if u look for the interviews on google u can find it but anyways azula was the same otherwise it would make no sense why she is so good at combat.

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@arcus: zuko has shown to blast metal in the air ships, fire benders are destructuive they break earth even fodders have done it and zuko has done that against regular earth.

again i saw him blast metal in the air ship so metal being melted is not a stretch or its more easy to say it can be neutralized with fire blasts. air can push it away so can fire which is more destructive and powerful. dont overrate metal please. his whips cut through earth and crystals they can throw aside metal as well. zuko's offense also works as his defense.

combustion blasts from pli which are on a whole level weaker than cman. su has decent defense but zuko's offense is huge he can use whips to get around pli. and block her metal as well.

toph doesnt need to agile becuz her attacks are fast and she cans sense and dodge look at her fight with korra. seismic sense is why she stands her ground and listens than attacks she doesnt have to keep moving around and her seimic sense is light years better than su. su is not better than toph in metal, toph says so and they say she is the greatest in the show and its proven by how she senses the smallest metal that she is far superior. kid toph ripped off gen iroh from metal. and held a whole cave up. and she taught her how to do metal bending like the police do since she was chief. lol this a new low for u su yin> toph thats a good one. all the basic metal bending techs are hers she was going to do it to yakone b4 he bloodbended her. and metal is the least of it in earth she is miles above both of her daughters.

u have a classic flaw of never giving feats and making claims there is no feat in metal that is greater in power than toph bending the whole mine, plus add to she bent armor which is huge off gen iron. and we all kno she can use the police gear well and she even says she is better and proves it. pls dont make dumb claims on that level su cant hold a candle to toph in skills.