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@arcus: he wasn't gonna die , he got his consciousness back and thats azula's personality. he still pushed her back

and the best feat was ozai feat not vs azula feats. that was a monumental feat that showed aang was a beast at earth

equalists are fodders i keep saying that amon wasnt even phased. its good but not great, im not saying she is weak at it but compared to aang's earth shes worse. that feat is good but a bender is a lot harder to beat with fire than a beastfish ur inside of. Her combat feats in fire are underwhelming.

oh when was korra poisoned vs amon, zaheer, and unalak wow i did not know that. why are u going back to poisoned korra we are talking prime here. why do u keep diverting. she just doesnt have any thing on that similar level

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@arcus:

nope they kept using AS a lot look at their whole fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccltjD-24a4

she didnt use firebending on aang's scale even a simple fire breath, she didnt use win on aang's scale, she didnt use the elemental sphere for combat. U keep saying plot but its also that she is sloppy and kept getting hit by unalak

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@gxrevolution96: she was pulled closer by unalak bad showing for her and what i meant is u kno the 4 elemental sphere she couldnt use it that well otherwise the fight would go more in her favor those are insane feats. but i explained above why she should have done much better read the first paragraph

no aang blocked most of his stuff wth big earth pillars and things like mini air tornadoes etc. aang's defense is really good. But regardless his fire was insane ofc aang doesnt have that skill in a few weeks even zuko would have gotten beat to a pulp, he is on iroh's level aang doesnt get an advantage to the level of ozai arguing this would be stupid. ozai is a master a real full fledged master, even azula didnt fly. this match would be like pakku vs aang in full moon * 20 where aang only had few weeks for water bending.

The fact that they can burn a continent says how much of a boost they get. they wiped out civilization with it and u saw how strong airbenders are working together.

no one ever said aang was more skilled than firelord in fire especially at that age.

korra vs unavaatu is a different story there was no similar boost on that scale which is the main point. korra lost plain and simple in AS and her feats are underwhelming

@arcus what ozai could have dodged no he was vulnerable why else would the creators make him make that face. ur being biased beyond belief now he made oh shit face why did he only do that then and hen AS state was about to kill him.

azula still got pushed down a feat and then later she tried attacking him and got blown away they had advantages at different points in their fight. azula never fully won neither did aang

azula got him with electricity ur gonna go to that now really we all know there was a whole army and azula got good cheapshot.

katara saved him once and aang never engaged combustion man but did so for gaang to escape he almost always ambushes.

korra got saved plenty of times and lost many times in a 1v1. she was saved by her uncle, dad, airbenders,jinora i could go on.

aang never faced unavaatu but his feats were better than korra AS by quite a bit.

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@arcus: those are feats against fodder aang had that in ba sing se. i said that they are equivalent of that i even said fodders don't impress me but i gave u an example of something u showed me. i never said aang could win comet ozai without AS but that feat is ridiculous shows how good aang is on the ground, look at those blasts ozai produced aang pulled him down easy thats a top notch feat against a top notch bender.

He defended against azula quite a bit and pushed her back on drill, this isnt some no-name its azula, but in other times azula had upper hand but these are still feats

against zuko he was destructive and pushed him back but still a decent feat.

korra doesnt have any fire combat feats on that level, amon scoffed at her fire, nothing happened. kuvira dodged like a piece of cake, zaheer never got hit by it. aang's earth> korra fire

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might i remind u that aang had ozai on the ropes but let him go Again a firebender had the power of hundred suns and he is iroh league so ofc its better than 3 elements. fire that day was great enough they can burn a continent. so yea elemental advantage did not matter.

azula was good i said that in my other thread but neither lost just saying he had a few god hits on her, he puhed her away and she got blown back. no one won.

combustion man was an ambush toph was burned as well, ambush especially with him is dangerous. aang did not have a full all out battle with him.

korra did have one with unalak and lost in AS thats the salt on the wound aang never was outdone on that level, she could have won had she produced better feats like Aang.

Korra was in AS a lot they both fought for a while and she lost in AS, if she produced feats like aang where she breathes insane fire, use air to blow him away or use the ball of all elements she would have put a much better fight. but she lost showing incompetence.u keep saying fire is something korra is amazing at it didnt help, neither did air. her combat fire feats are lacking and this is in AS. she comes off as a sloppy fighter.

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but those elements get boosted in AS did u not see aang's feats in AS. ur making it out as it doesn't matter it most certainly does. Yes vaatu was bigger but korra herself can match vaatu. nd she made 4 elements ball but didnt fully use it right. she could haave done insane fire feats, air cyclones etc that would have made her be stronger than unavaatu but she got beaten rather easier than it should have so i count it against her she doesnt use her resources well. i mention other things in my edit but she should not have lost so easily to him it was kind of bad and would get counted against her when shes compared to aang. even AS requires skill aang did some earth bullets, he combined elemental attack was really powerful elements matter especially in AS.

ozai had steroids in one element but got crushed in AS where as aang wasnt so good there fire of a 100 suns is greater than 3 elements. so i dont see ur point for further detail look at my edit i explain further the same thing

and you can all it plot but she had many failures not one and it shows her combat is not so good due to her rashness etc. i can further elaborate but i said it b4

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@gxrevolution96:

when i mean hover i dont mean float or something i mean her boiling rock feat where she was airborne for a while idk what word to use for that but thats what i mean.

well her not being spirtual is a weakness if she had that airball with all elements u think unavatu would have won i would doubt it. and she has 3 elements over him is a considerably better bender due to that she should not have lost that was kind of bad. she didnt even use air which would help or fire her really good element. Plot can't be brought in ever time to excuse her character she has had plenty of incompetent moments. way more than aang

Edit: i didnt see your other post it was way up there

but ok tonraq and her vs zaheer should have been in her favor tonraq is trong and zaheer still didnt have flight and was beaten badly by tenzin, yet thoe two with korra helping didnt win and she lost in one air blow after her father died thats pretty bad. its like 1.5 vs 1 and yet they lost its pretty pathetic.

In kuvira vs korra she even said the ep b4 she felt so much lighter and was confident despite jinora and opal asking to help her. she thought she would win she went confidently her feats were similar to b4 yet she got manhandled i've never seen an avatar in a disadvantage lose like that. aang was sleep deprived and could fall any minute and yet he held his own against azula he never lost that badly. he got shot and still was able to get up from it he has shown mental fortitude that korra doesnt have.

number of elements don't matter ofc it did against unalak she gained upper hand with air, and in AS when aang combines for elements he is unstoppable. she lost unavaatu who sshould be at a disadvantage her AS feats are bad in comparison. and u said she is a firebending master why did it not help her against unalak, her air to which was previously helpful.

korra still had all that time to learn airbending stop blamong the plot these characters are designed like that, korra was not skilled it takes her longer time, aang had a block he got over it in a day. stopblaming plot she can't learn airbending and isnt as effective its her fault.

aang vs ozai aang was still newer compared to master ozai and he let him go with his lightning redirection, and in his AS he completely stomped him, ozai had the power of 100 suns so his fire is better than all elements even combined.

she does barely use water since she cant take it out of the atmosphere or carry any she is so limited, all her fights almost happen where there is no water except for unalak and she lost there too. She has big losing record, she's not creative and rushes in, she makes a lot of mistakes unlike aang so its more likely he would win

@arcus Do you seriously believe that korra did not train for years in her element? maybe not 15 but she had years she had sparring grounds and tests and white lotus members, they trained she didnt play pi sho all day.

she still was better than unalak her air was effective yet she lost with AS and having elements over him its not excusable. why not use air and fire to turn the tides. Unalak was good but u honestly think he was on the same level as korra.

why use fire, in the beginning she didnt have air and water was not available to her so she had earth and fire, her fire is obviously more used element so i would expect those kinds of feats from her.

i didnt mean aang was equal but showed his more impressive sides in fire

But u blatantly ignore the level of difference between them imo opal shouldnt have feats that far surpass korra, korra had combat exp and had tenzin personally teach her. why culd she even though it was for moments hol back an army when korra doesnt have 50% of that capability bending huge gusts of air. fighting bandits is not equivalet to fighting crazy spirits, amon , unalak and red lotus

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her fire did nothing to amon he was this close to it and nothing happened. her fire being her best element should be more effctive against her opponents it wasnt really all that much is what im saying. unalak also got hit by air and when she was fighting him she didnt use fire as much even though its one of her best elements and it never fully gave her a win is what im saying. it was never fully helpful, and yes her first fight scene was cool but it was a no name firebender that was a nice scene but a not a great feat, her fire was useless for the most part i would expect her to be more useful with it.

aang beat the fire lord at the end with mere seismic sense, he fought azula for the most part with earth and pushed her back with in the drill. he used it for massive defense against comet ozai. he used earth against big shots and it worked for him well. he had solid feats form there and he pushed back zuko with earth too so he went up against solid ppl and had great earth combat feats. along with his training where he dodges tophs attacks goes underground and able to dodge katar etc with a blindfold. his earth was very useful in combat against good ppl. He also beat those earth soldiers alongside katara when they invaded the earth king but those are fodders. in comparison korra never got done anything that impressive with fire her combat feats except with that first one against a no name f irebending combat feats are very rare.

her air was honestly more impressive in combat so i dont consider to be really good with fire in comparison to aang with earth.

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@arcus: recently yes though its usually fodders, but against amon she used air which was what helped her the most. and she did not use fire against unalak as well so it shows that in battles she seems to not win with fire. she uses fire a lot but it never gets her the win, she uses it on amon, she uses it on kuvira and zaheer too but it never provides her the win. she doesnt seem to be very effective with it. all of them also easily dodged it

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@arcus: korra is powerful she is very tough yes, but lookat someone like her and kuvira, she is way more precise and controlling of her element she made the earth beneath her move. metal bender cops are used as fodder quite sad and picking ppl was ok but the tarrlok feat was the most impressive imo.

But how did unalak get that far she should have air, fire(best element) over him and yet in the AS she failed that to me was a wtf moment i would have accepted a random outside help from the daughters to change the tids but it was a pure 1v1. she didnt use the classic airball with 4 elements trick which would demolish him. her overall AS feats are weaker

Azula could overpower aang with a full body armor of crystals in the catacomb when they charged at each other, and she completely overpowered him at that point, that speaks so much about her power. aang's full body armor are one of his best defenses after air. aang used full body earth to defend against ozai for a little bit which is impressive for azula. korra blowing a few chiblockers in comparison is not very impressive to me which did nothing to amon who is a boss in his own right though. azula did that to aang and several times though they never had a full out winner but she had the upper hand.

the fact that he can block ozai with just fire is impressive, and thats ozai's only element. he mastered the fire breath a high level tech in weeks. and produced flames that could keep up with zuko in his training. And he got the lightning redirection down a high level tech. he is really good for the time span. korra uses fire t boost in AS yes, but she doesnt use it like azula who hovers, uses it on offense that blows stuff up and evasion. korra is below zuko and azula those are skilled firebenders in feats of DC and versatility thats pretty dissapointing for her best and most used element. aang is on near tenzin level with air and very comparable to toph in earth except metal. as u saw in ep 10. toph at this age is better than lin, suyin and the twins together thats how much the older gen had pure skill in imo over these newer gen but i digress. korra's earth defense never struck me to be particularly good and for a while she didnt have air so she had to have some fire defense but her defense in those elements are not as good.

yes Opal had exp but korra had combat exp which is what she learns the best from and learned how to do air blasts, but how was she a lot worse opal could hold back kuvira plus army while jinora went to tell everyone about kuvira. that seems like a whole another level why can't korra do even half of that with direct tenzin teaching and having combat exp.

korra was trained since she was a child, she had all 3 elements since she was a 3 year old and even had white lotus members with her. not t mention in the first ep she passed a test meaning she was training and they have sparring grounds for her. She had years of exp. she wanted to be avatar and was excited and had all the time in the world to practice.