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this is so getting cancelled

not because is bad, but because I find no reason to care about Batwing as i did the last Batwing.

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@shadowswordmaster: he changed with the new 52, which Pandora created. therefore Pandora created the event that created the new Question, which means that she created her own origin

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@akbogert: but you just did. you just explained why the origin of Pandora and trinity of sin works except that it doesnt work.

Its just circular logic, Pandora created the new 52, which created the council and the council created her and back to the begining

it doesnt add up

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#4  Edited By arnoldoaad
@dernman said:

What about how in Stormwatch it was mentioned that he really wasn't the only Martian left?

well Stormwatch was completely rebooted so thats the explanation.

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@press_oblivion: yeah, that is another thing, is the JLI going to be involve at all on the Trinity War?

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@akbogert: but the problem with that theory is that if Pandora and the council existed outside of time at the moment of the punishment of Pandora.

then what about the Question and Phantom Stranger, most specifically the Question who WAS NOT a magical entity, if they all share the same origin outside of time how do you explain the Question pre-New 52?

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#7  Edited By arnoldoaad

@soumya: yeah, i was going to say that too

Dr Light already appeared on TT.

also

the newest theory is that It was Black Orchid who was shot, not Catwoman

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It would explain why Catwoman 19 and JLA 3 had completely different retellings of the same event, and that way Black Orchid would had been shot the same way that she was shot on Neil Gaiman's Black Orchid.

ithas a ton of problems but it is the most likely scenario.

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#8  Edited By arnoldoaad

I think most people want the removal of Bob Harras before the reversal of the new 52

otherwise we cannot have the later one

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#9  Edited By arnoldoaad

@akbogert said:

I really don't understand what you mean when you say the council created Pandora. They didn't. And they (and she) existed prior to flashpoint.

no, they didnt existed prior to flashpoint, Shazam was the only wizard of the living thunder the other characters didnt existed, he was white with white hair, and the first appearance of Pandora was on Flashpoint 5

post-flashpoint Pandora was just a normal woman who happens to find "the box" she opens it and then the council punish her giving her the powers she now has

what lacks is Pandora's origin before the new 52, without that she has no motivation or purpose, is even weirder that she remembers that she rearranged the world when by doing so it rearranges her own origin.

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