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If I may add some of my thoughts (not looking to debate in my own thread, just spark some discussion)

IMO, back when Connor was being actively used, he was established as above Dick in terms of h2h (the Monkey Fist storyline really cemented that). However, Dick’s definitely improved since then, but it remains to be seen if Connor will be written as being above him again (considering the Monkey Fist arc seemed to place Connor as being >= even Batman, it’s definitely possible). The Lazarus arc has hyped him up as being one of the very best, and has had him beating everyone he’s come across (including a Nightwing villain-Raptor), so I definitely expect him to be at least an even match with Nightwing.

That being said, Dick should definitely have an advantage when it comes to overall experience (in addition to speed/agility, maybe general physicals). When it comes to debates, he also has the advantage of significantly more feats, making his abilities much more well established (Connor’s gotten a lot of hype in his re-introduction, but it’s always possible that the hype won’t be consistent)

Regardless of who wins, I think it would be an excellent fight

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@marque:

Where’d you read about Shiva making an appearance? Considering the emphasis they’ve been putting on Connor’s h2h abilities, I imagine some type of fight would be likely

@allstarsuperman: He does seem to be younger than he was pre-Flashpoint, but I'm not aware of any definitive indication that he was de-aged

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Seems to be suggested that he's directly from pre-Flashpoint

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Connor Hawke and Damian Wayne

VS

Black Widow and Hawkeye

When these archer/assassin teams do battle, who will win?

Round 1:

All are unarmed

Fight takes place in a dojo

All are in character, victory by ko

Round 2:

Connor and Clint are armed with their bows and a set of normal arrows (no trick arrows)

Damian and Widow have their standard gear (standard Robin gear for Damian)

Fight takes place in the streets of New York. Starting distance is 50 feet.

All are in character. Victory by ko

Round 3:

Connor and Widow are unarmed

Damian and Clint each have a sword

Fight takes place in the Colosseum

All are bloodlusted. Victory by death

Who wins?

Connor Hawke

VS

Nightwing

When these two martial arts masters do battle, who will win?

Composite pre/post Flashpoint versions of both

Both are in character. Victory by ko

Round 1:

Fight takes place in a dojo

Both are unarmed

Round 2:

Fight takes place in Metropolis at night

Nightwing has standard gear. Connor has his bow and normal arrows

Who wins?

We've seen how Connor Hawke and Damian Wayne have fared against the fighters of the Lazarus Tournament and against each other, but when these two team up against a gauntlet of fighters from their respective families, how far will they get?

Composite pre/post Flashpoint versions of all

Damian and Connor are fully healed and rested before each new round (as are any repeat fighters in the gauntlet)

Connor has his bow and a quiver of standard arrows. Damian has batarangs. All others have gear as listed

All fights take in the arena on Lazarus Island (except without any of the resurrection magic)

All are in character, but serious (no holding back due to personal feelings). Victory by ko

Round 1: Batgirl (Stephanie; unarmed) and Red Robin (Tim; staff)

Round 2: Speedy (Mia Dearden; bow and normal arrows) and Red Arrow (Emiko; bow and normal arrows)

Round 3: Batgirl (Barbara; batarangs) and Catwoman (whip/claws)

Round 4: Batwoman (batarangs) and Jason Todd (batarangs)

Round 5: Nightwing (escrima sticks) and Arsenal (Roy; bow and normal arrows)

Round 6: Green Arrow (Oliver; bow and normal arrows) and Batman (batarangs)

Round 7: Batgirl (Cassandra; batarangs) and Black Canary (unarmed)

How far will they make it?

Bonus Stage

For this bonus stage, Connor and Damian run the gauntlet again, except everyone has full standard gear (trick arrows, utility belts, etc.)

The rounds can be re-ordered based on changed levels of difficulty, if necessary