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The Black Order (MCU) Respect Thread

This might initially look somewhat unorganised, but instead of separating their feats on each category listed, I'll show each of their fights and analyse the feats shown below, both because their showings are not many and because they tent to utilise all of their advantages simultaneously in combat. I also apologise for the decent quality of the GIFs, this is the best quality I could download the movie in.

The Black Order

"Hear me, and rejoice. You are about to die at the hand of the children of Thanos. Be thankful, that your meaningless lives are now contributed to the balance..."

The Black Order, or the 'Children of Thanos', are a group consisting of some of the most dangeous individuals in the universe. They were handpicked by the Mad Titan himself to serve him in his raid of different worlds in search for the Infinity Stones. In the second part of the 'Infinity War' taking place in Earth-19999, the Black Order, alongside Thanos, slaughtered a horde of Asgardians led by Thor, Heimdall and Loki outside of Asgard's ruins, and retrieved the Space Stone. Afterwards, Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian were assigned to acquire the Time Stone from Dr Strange, while Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight headed in Scottland to retrieve the Mind Stone from the Vision. By the end of the vital part of the War, all 4 members of the Order were dead, Maw being flushed out in space by Iron Man, and the rest killed during the Battle of Wakanda, Corvus Glaive taken out by his own weapon wielded by the Vision, Proxima Midnight shredded down after being sent onto the giant Threshers by the Scarlet Witch and Cull Obsidian imploding in conduct with the 'Hulkbuster's' gauntlet after crushing onto Wakandan shields by Banner.

Despite, at last, failing to retrieve the Infinity Stones themselves, the Children of Thanos served him well and managed to compete with and overcome the most powerful of the Avengers in battle.

Ebony Maw

"Your powers are inconsequential compared to mine."

Ebony Maw is the Leader of the Black Order, and arguably the most powerful member of the group. During the clash in New York, he faught and defeated Dr Strange in 1 on 1 combat, incapacitating and capturing both him and Spiderman through his highily versatile telekinetic powers.

Abilities

  • Superhuman Strength
  • Superhuman Durability
  • Superhuman Speed
  • Telekinesis
  • Levitation

In the first encounter with the Black Order in New York, Ebony Maw faced off against the combined efforts of Dr Strange, Wong, Spiderman and Iron Man for a good while and managed to pressure all of them.

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Effortlessly hrows aside a Cull launched by Iron Man at high speeds. Based on that, my take is that Maw can control the bodies of others at will if they're weakened enough to be unable to resist.

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Ebony was highily skilled in abusing the environment around him using his telekinetic abilities, adding great versatality and battlefield control in his powerset. Here, he sends the Mark L flying several stories up in the sky by manipulating the ground right below him, and then proceeds to attack Wong and Dr Strange with trees from around the street, projecting at high speed.

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Attempting to prevent Tony from closing in, Ebony used the debris from around the streets to great scale, notice how those pieces are all-around comparable to small building level, landing with force good enough to tremor the streets and cause small explosions, and that he's not particularly trying.

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Attacks Wong and Strange with a car at high speeds. Countered and thrown back at him at high speeds from Iron Man's repulsons, he slices it in half from further away and remains untouched in the middle.

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Lifts several small pieces of debris, tears them to tony pieces and attacks Wong and Steven with an incredible amount of bullet-like projectiles at huge volumes and fire rate.

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Tanks a super sized car mirror projected by Wong in his head, retaliates by quickly incapacitating using debris, overpowers Strange's magical whip, corners and encases him inside the surface of a building.

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Floors Strange and quickly incapacitates him by, once again, manipulating the ground below him to constrict him with vines. The contriction quickly knocked Steven unconsious by strangling him out, and then Maw lifted him up in the air by dispatching a large piece of the ground's surface. Notice how impressively Ebony outdrew Dr Strange by binding him before he could make use of the Time Stone.

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After Peter grabbed the unconscious Strange with his webs and attempted to get him as far away from Maw as possible, the latter used his levitation to get in a race with Spiderman and even managed to land hits on him without looking. He manipulates everything in the path to Thanos' spaceship and manages to almost grab Strange's body, until Peter leaves the cape back and keeps going.

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Achieving his objective, Maw removes the streetlight Peter was hanging from to not get sucked into the spaceship and captures the both of them.

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During Thanos' raid of the Statesman departing from Asgard, Maw and his siblings assisted in slaughtering the group of fugitives. After Thanos took down the Hulk, Thor attacked the Mad Titan but Ebony quickly encased him in dberis. Thor showed just how physically imposing his was later in the movie, and he showed that he still had strength left in him by charging at Thanos, making this an impressive showing of force applied by Maw's attempts.

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Lastly, while torturing Steven to give up the Time Stone, Maw demonstrated enough precision to manipulate several dozens of specialised needles without making the slightest of movement.

Corvus Glaive

"I thought you were a formidable machine, but you die like every man."

Corvus Glaive is an incredibly physically imposing being. Armed with the Glaive, his weapon of choice and one of the most dangerous weapons known in the universe, Corvus proved himself a capable fighter and powerful individual, fighting against the likes of the Vision and Captain America.

Abilities

  • Superhuman Strength
  • Superhuman Duability
  • Superhuman Speed
  • Skilled Fighter

Weapons

  • The Glaive
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Opening the Battle in Scottland in an attempt to retrieve the Mind Stone from Vision, Corvus stabbed him from behind with the Glaive. As Vision himself described, the blade canceled out his phasing abilities, something normally impossible, and damaged his vibranium body to the point of significant weakening.

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Immediately afterwards, Corvus proceeds to retrieve the Stone and take it out of Vision's body using the tip of the Glaive. Him and Proxima are stopped by Wanda's psionics, which they tanked, and again, even a shot powerful enough to send him flying through the glass window several stories below.

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Even though Vision was weaken, he could still travel in the air at high speeds and slammed Corvus around the buildings and towers of the streets creating holes on the surfaces, which Corvus tanked while grappling with the Vision himself. At full health, the latter is capable of grappling with the likes of Ultron and Thor, establishing Glaive as an exceptional physical beast.

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Later in the fight, he deflects a Mind Stone beam from the Vision with the Glaive, after it's been fired. Notice the precision involved here, as Corvus mantains the force of the beam and leads it back to Vision himself hitting him and knocking him down.

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After Wanda and Vision are shot out of the sky and into the train station by Proxima, the latter and her husband land from several stories up from the roof of the building, and they take the fall like nothing happened.

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When Cap's team arrived in Scottland to rescue Wanda and Vision, Sam attacked Corvus with a baragge of about 5 missles, with the latter deflecting every single one of them. At the end of the fight, a wounded Corvus showed that he's capable of calling the Glaive back at him at will, in a similar manner Thor can summon Mjolnir.

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Opening their second fight with the Vision, Corvus infiltrated Shuri's lab in Wakanda, taking out Ayo, second in command to Okoye in the Wakandan army, and several Dora Milaje soldiers in quick succession, deflecting beams from Shuri's weapon and taking her down too. Afterwards, Vision bullrushed him from behind and knocked both of them out the window forcing a fight in the forest.

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Corvus ended up gaining the upper hand once more, kicking Vision back, outmaneuvering him and impaling him with the Glaive. It's worth noting that in the end of his fight with the Captain, the Glaive impaled Corvus himself as well.

Corvus was clearly a better fighter than the Vision, managing to quickly outpace and tag him repeatedly. This is noteworthy as the Vision was capable of tangling with the likes of Thor in hand to hand combat, proving his skill. Even in this weakened state, it's still very impressive that Glaive could outperform him so well.

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When Steve opened the fight against Corvus rescuing the Vision, he repeatedly striked him in the face with his new Wakandan shields. This is impressive as it shows excellent piercing resistence on Corvus' part, as the shields themselves are partly blades, which Cap used to downright gut Outriders beforehand.

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After an exchange in which Corvus was disarmed, he proceeded to overpower, ragdoll and manhandle Captain America in a matter of a seconds, almost choking him to death before Vision stabbed him from behind giving him a taste of his own medicine. It's also notable that while Steve clearly outfaught Glaive, the latter kept up well enough that he was not awfully outpaced by "the greatest soldier of the modern era". Cap has proved both his skill and his physical abilities, injected with the Super Soldier Serum and fighting on par with world class assassins like the Winter Soldier and beings physically superior to himself like Spiderman.

Proxima Midnight

"We have blood to spare."

Proxima Midnight is the most skilled combatant in Thanos' Army. A superb martial artist with physiology similar to that of her husband, Corvus Glaive, and armed with her specialised Spear capable of projecting energy blasts and slicing through the most powerful of opponents, she has proven herself through her duels with the Scarlet Witch, or pairs of Avengers and high level fighters, such as Captain America, Okoye and the Black Widow.

Abilities

  • Superhuman Strength
    Superhuman Durability
  • Superhuman Speed
  • Master Combatant

Weapons

  • Midnight's Spear
  • Sword
  • Retractable Gauntlet Blade
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Proxima was assigned with fighting the Scarlet Witch while Corvus used the Glaive to retrieve the Mind Stone. Here, we see Proxima tanking a high fall from a building and landing on her feet like nothing, proceeding to attack Wanda with her spear and shattering concrete just by swinging the edge around.

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It's worth noting that Wanda's powers can operate so fast that she stopped an explosion going off back in Lagos, yet Proxima managed to pressure her and keep up with her powers incredibly well in close combat, and even prevented her from using her higher end raw power.

Here, Proxima also showcases extraordinary physique, making a leap launching herself about 100 ft. off the ground towards Wanda, in the span of a single second, whose psionics she overpowered using her spear's energy projection. Not even elite Asgardian warriors like Loki or the Valkyrie have demonstrated such high amounts of body strength.

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After the initial exchange, Wanda managed to get ahold of Midnight, and after hearing Vision yelling in pain, she sent her flying inside a large fiery truck, lit up by Vision's beam, which exploded in conduct with her body and launched her back, breaking the truck itself in half. Proxima injured the core of the explosion without any injuries and was back on her feet attacking Vision and Wanda seconds later.

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Proxima got back up and launched an energy sphere from her spear. She managed to tag Wanda and Vision departing, from over 10 stories down and sent them flying backwards landing inside the train station. Afterwards, she got inside the building alongside her husband landing from the roof. Also notice how fast her blasts are, covering such distance in no time.

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After Captain America and his team's arrival, Proxima took on both Widow and Cap, armed with the Glaive, and managed to hold her own remaining untagged until disarmed and BFR'd by Falcon running interference. Fighting a pair of top notch martial artists combined and exchanging blows with them is not something many could do.

It's worth noting that the Avengers proved themselves extremely dangerous witht he Order's weapons, as Natasha made short work of Corvus wielding Proxima's spear right beforehand, yet she took on both her and Cap armed with her husband's weapon and was never actually put down. She would also have to look out for not damaging the Glaive, which might explain how Steve was able to hold his own in a strength contest against her, but still visibly trying while she wasn't.

In the same sequence, Proxima, like Corvus, showed herself capable of calling back her own weapon from further away, while it also proved strong enough to cut clean through Glaive, a very imposing physically opponent with excellent piercing resistence against material such as vibranium.

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Upon leading the army of Outriders in Wakanda, Midnight examined the outer shields and showed that her sword, created by Thanos himself, was powerful enough to go right through the shields. In battle, Okoye and Romanoff attempted to save Wanda from Proxima, who was about to kill her, and after about a minute of fighting 2 on 1 with Okoye and the Black Widow, she managed to overpower the both of them, abusing the opening of the shredders passing by. It's worth noting that this throw took down Okoye for the count, and Okoye is armored with vibranium weave covering her entire torso, showing by how she took a point blank kinetic blast from Killmonger's Black Panther suit.

Also worth noting that Proxima once again remained untouched in a 2 on 1, at least by Okoye, the general of the Dora Milaje and 'the best warrior in Wakanda', at least besides T'Challa himself. When the Winter Soldier took on a double team effort of Widow and Agent 13 back in the CIA Base, he struggled to keep up at all and took repeated clean hits. Meanwhile, Proxima kept up well enough with both of them, granted she has a stat advantage on them.

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Eventually, after being pressured and disarmed 1 on 1, Proxima still overpowered Natasha unarmed, pinned her down and use her retractable gauntlet blade to overpower her. Notice how she does that using only 1 arm against what's likely Natasha's entire body strength. At this point, it's worth noting that Nat appears to be the only fighter who managed to land hits on Proxima, making her performance against the likes of Okoye and Captain America very impressive in regards to her combat skill. Proxima also handled Widow easier than the Black Panther could handle the lesser Hawkeye.

Cull Obsidian

"*growling sounds*"

Cull Obsidian is the muscle of the Order. He has shown himself capable of fighting and defeating not only incredibly powerful physically individuals, but also skilled and versatile ones too, such as Tony Stark's most advanced armors in the Mark XLIV and even the Mark L, proving he's more than just a mindless beast.

Abilities

  • Superhuman Strength
  • Superhuman Durability
  • Superhuman Speed
  • Skilled Fighter

Weapons

  • Multifunctional Axe / Hammer
    • Shield Function
    • Chain Function
    • Claw Function
  • Prosthetic Arm
    • Retractable Blade
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In the Battle of New York II, Cull faught Tony Stark's new armor, based on nano-technology. He utilised his highily versatile weapon of choice and excellent speed to keep pace with Tony and overpower him. Here, he uses the chain function of his hammer to attack from range and then shield from Tony's laser beams.

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Cull's axe could be used at such levels of striking that he almost overpowered Tony's shields, bashing him to the ground and then keeping him at bay. The Mark L suit was impressively competing with Thanos on Titan.

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Later in the fight, even without using the shield function of his axe, Cull blocked Tony's beams without damage, tagged him mid-fight and overpowered him. Such ability to keep up with and tagged a highily maneuvering, fast and skilled opponent mid-flight and pin him down while switching from different weaponry to another shows that Obsidian is more than a brick.

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Once again, blocking Iron Man's lasers while the latter is trying to outpace him from above, tags Peter with the claw function of his weapon before he can land in quick succession. it only becomes more impressive when Spiderman attempt sto attack him from behind again. Cull throws a car at him several stories up in the air, Peter counterattacks and throw it back at Cull, but he dodges.

Such clear display of skill, keeping up with incredibly is very uncommon in large, beasty bricks of Cull's weight class. Immediately afterwards, he managed to grab Iron Man within his claw's grip, launch him onwards and fully incapacitate him, proceeding to finish him off with a gauntlet blade similar to Proxima's.

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In Wakanda, Cull once again deomnstrated excellent efficiency with his weapons, using it as a chain to take out many members of the Dora Milaje before smashing them up close and personal.

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Banner entered the Hulkbuster amor before fighting off Cull Obsidian. Above we see that they're a physical match for one another, getting in a grappling contest and slamming several stories away from their starting position. Bruce's wit was his only advantage in this exchange, as shown above when he grabbed the shield after tricking Cull by using his repulsors.

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Eventually however, Cull proved more than a match for the armor physically. Here, he grabs an upper limb of the suit, uses the axe to slice it down, and finishes it off with an efficient takedown where he pulls it on a different direction to dispatch it. Banner managed to overcome Cull's superiority using the suit's advanced tech that tricked Cull, however he made it clear just how powerful the suit Cull was about to fight was before engaging, "this suit already kicked the crap outta the Hulk".

This is pretty much it for the Children of Thanos, 4 incredibly imposing beings, great side-villains, and physical obstacles with highily diverse skillsets for the Avengers to overcome.

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