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@flashfyr said:

This. Deadpool with Morals on won't want to fight her (I mean the entire PLOT of the second movie is about him trying to save a kid Cable intends to kill. Even in the comics Wade draws a line at hurting kids). In fact he'd probably just squee over how adorable a killing machine she is.

Nothing about this says she's going to call HERSELF X-23 again. For all we know it's just the title of the book, and she won't use a code name at all in the story.

A LOT of the problems with that book were the result of interference by Editorial, so it's pretty unfair to judge her from that. I'd rather wait and see what the actual book is like before jumping to conclusions. Just remember: People were more confident in Hopeless writing her in All-New X-Men than they were over Taylor when the post-Secret Wars books were announced, and we all remember how THAT turned out.

Her healing factor is faster than Logan's, and she's also generally portrayed as faster and more agile since she's smaller and not weighed down by 100lbs of adamantium. She's demonstrated the speed, coordination, and reflexes to slice bullets out of the air with her claws, and was fast enough to blitz Belasco on his home turf in Limbo. Although not as strong as Logan, she was still strong enough to carry Old Man Logan on her back (and climb up Fin Fang Foom's digestive tract at the same time) without noticeable effort. Her fighting ability as compared to Logan is...contentious. She beat Logan in Target X, but it's often debated on how earnestly Logan was fighting. However she has beaten the tar out of Creed (Weapon X) and her fighting style is generally described as surgical and very precise. Her foot claws also make her less predictable. She generally uses them in one of two ways: either to turn into a whirling ball of adamantium-bladed death using acrobatics (and she's very acrobatic) to bring them into play, and force her opponents to react to claws coming from multiple directions at once, or as a secret weapon she can save for an opportune attack (basically, opponents forget she has them until snikt. See what she did to Task Master, for example). She appears to have sharper senses than Logan, as well.

The environment works to Logan's and Laura's favor. Even if the two teams begin within view of one another, once Logan and Laura can duck out of sight their enhanced senses come into play. It's going to be much more difficult for Steve and Bucky to track them, while Logan and Laura will be able to track them wherever they go. Laura in particular is well-trained for setting ambushes and using terrain to her advantage (see what she did to Cammi in Avengers Arena, and that's WITH advanced detection gear in her suit).

@druzzie said:

My preferred reading order:

X-23: Innocence Lost
NYX (honestly, the continuity over where NYX fits in the order is severely muddled, but it's still relevant as those events do continue to be referenced)
I think her Captain Universe one-shot fits in here; it seems to be set sometime while she's alone on the streets. It's not a big story, but it does provide some background for an arc of the Liu series later on
X-23: Target X (I headcanon the scenes between Laura, Daredevil, and Cap as a framing story that's set after NYX, which itself is set between her time with Megan and Debbie, and when she goes to confront Wolverine. Officially, NYX is set AFTER, which makes no flippin' narrative sense at all)
Kyle and Yost's run on New X-Men, including Messiah Complex
Kyle and Yost's X-Force, including Messiah War, Necrosha, and Second Coming
Marjorie Liu's X-23 one-shot
Liu's X-23 ongoing, including the Collision crossover with Liu's Daken ongoing (I think the one-shot comes first; Jubilee has been depowered, but not vamped yet. By the time she turns up in the ongoing she has)
Avengers Academy beginning with issue 24
Avengers Arena
Bendis' All-New X-Men beginning with issue 19
Death of Wolverine: The Logan Legacy and Wolverines (unclear when either series is set in relation to ANXM)
All-New Wolverine including her Generations one-shot

She's made some other appearances, including a major appearance in the Circle of Four crossover for Venom and Ghost Rider, one of the Fear Itself tie-in stories, (she kicks Amadeus Cho in the balls. The arrogant little turd had it coming) and the Four on the Floor arc of the latest Ghost Rider, but the only one I find truly worth reading is Circle of Four. She appeared frequently in Claremont's Uncanny beginning with issue 450, but those issues seem to have been quietly retconned out. The only real value in them is if you want to be a completionist, but they're almost never referenced today, and Claremont's X-23...wasn't exactly the best. I'd also recommend pretending Hopeless's volume of All-New X-Men doesn't even exist. Although she's a main character there, the writing for her is HORRIBLY OOC, and pretty much her entire purpose on the book is to Leeroy Jenkins into getting her ass kicked, and to be a horrible, horrible girlfriend to an emotionally abusive Angel, with whom she has no on-panel chemistry (to put it mildly, she had better chemistry in a ONE PAGE CONVERSATION with Teen Cyclops than she did with her actual boyfriend in the book's entire run). The fact that it's supposed to be set concurrently with ANW makes it even MORE egregious, since she's like two completely different characters between the two books (Taylor's take is much more like what I imagine she would have developed into had she not gone through X-Force).

The reaction to the Hulk is directly because of the damage he causes. Mutants are persecuted JUST FOR EXISTING. Your only power could be having gills, and the Purifiers, Reavers, the Right, Friends of Humanity, etc. will all be in a race to see who can form the biggest lynchmob first. And are you going to SERIOUSLY compare the Sokovia Accords — which are the result of the massive collateral damage inflicted by superhero brawls — to the Mutant Registration Act, which exists to track people just because they were BORN?

@DevilMayehm666 said:

Weapon X was part of Weapon Plus, the same experiment that gave Steve the super soldier serum, so yes, in that sense it was around before the general public knew about mutants.

However bringing mutants into the MCU will also highlight what I think is a major flaw even in the comics: The concept that mutants are hated and feared, yet other metahumans in the Marvel Universe get a pass. The mutant allegory for intolerance frankly works best when there's no other metahumans around to turn the universe into one big fat bunch of hypocrites.

Laura probably has this unless we see Betsy start to use her TK more creatively, as she only ever used it to create weapons in Apocalypse, and she couldn't even drop Beast one on one. Laura tore X-24 apart, and only didn't kill him because of his healing factor. By contrast, she only needs to hit Betsy ONCE.

If Laura is denied use of her claws I have to give it to Wade. His healing factor is simply too overpowered for her to get a submission or KO in this battleground. And AFAIK Wade still CAN'T die because of Thanos' curse, so a kill is not an option.

Are you talking about that fight during the ANW Civil War tie in? There was no "domination" by Logan. I just flipped through it and he didn't lay so much as a claw on her, she was completely in control of that fight.

She doesn't NEED her claws to finish him. Just ask Kimura (Laura's ability to improvise and change strategies on her feet doesn't get enough love).