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@loganx360 said:

WoW they still doing this ?

a bunch of Wolverine Non Creators trying to rewrite his history ? its not Even Marc Silvestri , Larry Hama or Andy Kubert doing these books , what blasphemy .

Its very Awkward when unskilled writers try to do a time traveling story plot , ..just dont do it .

As far as the 1812 fact , well in 616 they never stated when Logan was born , this whole mid 1800 birth was a later than 2004 Wolverine Origin Books which was meant for the wolverine in the Ultimate Universe but some how it leaked as the origin for both 616 & Ultimate Universe wolverine which that was a huge mistake but since it was bendis & quesada running the show they dropped the ball on that one . The 616 Original Wolverine they never declared when he was really born , Xavier made a Guess that he was over 300 years old , its just a guess but knowing how uncharted Wolverine Healing factor was he could be a lot older . So a set time as 1812 is no biggie .Wolverine could of been born in the 1600 or even before that .

i just hope they bring the writers before the Events of Heroes Reborn back to fix this Whole Bendis / Quesada Nurfin Crap .

....till then ..

.. Make Mine Marvel .

Are you STILL going on about that "uncharted" healing factor fan wank? You're as bad as the Cassie Cain fans elevating her body reading to telepathic precognition.

I don't care if you don't like that Origins conflated 616 and Ultimate Logan's origins (by the way, you got a source on that? Everything from Marvel says it's explicitly 616). It doesn't matter WHEN it was published. It's CANON. If it says Wolverine was born in the middle/late-1800s, then he was born in the middle/late-1800s. YOU don't get to define canon. Marvel does. Period.

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@roy81 said:

@ambaryerno: What issue did Beast try to send the 05 back? That storyline went for so long and i didn't even know Marvel already quietly resolved it. :-/

That came up in issue 19 of Hopeless's volume. Teen Hank found a way to get back to their past with some mix of science and magic, only to discover that there was already a version of the O5 there.

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@doc-holiday: I'm like 99% sure "old" Iceman is also gay.

Yup, they've now established Adult Iceman was closeted, too. The bizarre thing is that NOW Hopeless has retconned it so that the O5 are NOT the same characters as their adult counterparts (Beast discovered when he finally found a way back to the past that they're ALREADY THERE), so that should mean Iceboy's orientation DOESN'T necessarily reflect his adult self.

That might have made for an actual interesting conflict between them, and a fascinating exploration of sexual identity. But nope, Marvel's going to take the easy way out.

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Wasn't Logan supposed to have been born in the 1880s in the book continuity?

So either the War of 1812 lasted a whole HELL of a lot longer in the Marvel Universe, or the continuity editor has just thrown up his hands and said, "Yeah, sure, let's go with that."

No, you're right. The war of 1812 only lasted 3 years.

I don't see how Marvel Editorial doesn't see this as a problem. They're not fudging his birth date a little to make it work, they're pushing it back by a CENTURY; he'd have to have been more in the 1780s to match this artwork.

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Wasn't Logan supposed to have been born in the 1880s in the book continuity?

So either the War of 1812 lasted a whole HELL of a lot longer in the Marvel Universe, or the continuity editor has just thrown up his hands and said, "Yeah, sure, let's go with that."

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That's actually not a bad job by Land.

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Art is MUCH improved over EotS. But WTF is with Laura's face on the last page?

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Am I seriously supposed to believe Bobby's parents never grilled out at a motel/hotel/camp site? He grew up in a blue collar family...public grills are everywhere...am I missing something here?

Didn't you get the memo?

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Is the dark haired guy Northstar or someone new?...if it's Beast, that scrawny frame and the tiny hands are all wrong.

It's Romeo, (yes, really) Bobby's new Inhuman boyfriend, who he met right before Inhumans vs. X-Men started. Because Hopeless just doesn't do "subtle" in this book.

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@xXRedTokyoXx said:
@doc-holiday said:
@xXRedTokyoXx said:

Damn, I really dislike the artstyle here. Sheesh, not flattering at all, but at least teen Beast looks like a teen, and not some grungy old man.

I was going to say much the same about the cover. It looks like something a teenager who just learned photoshop would do for a school project. Marvel and DC really have lowered their standards over the last few years.

I don't know if I can agree on that. I like the majority of Marvel's artists, there are a few artists I just don't really like. Even this artist isn't bad, I think I was a little harsh, I just don't like the angles they're drawing the characters in. Still, I don't think any one artist is just the worst in the world; they still have that level of professionalism I like, respect, and will never achieve, lol.

The only people I hear with sentiment like this about comic artist, draw or have once drawn themselves.

You don't need to be an artist to recognize that something's wonky with angles. There's something seriously Escher-esque about that shot of Cyclops blasting the car on the last page.

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@ambaryerno: go ahead explain yourself. This is gonna be so good....

She's always been depicted as a strategist who carefully analyzes a situation before entering. In ANXM she's a reckless and mindless berserker jumping in head-first before she knows what's happening. And she sure as hell doesn't say things like "BRB" or "Something something bub." This isn't even character development. It's a complete 180 of her personality that ignores over ten years of established history.