It is obvious that Thor is a name and not a mantel. The rational of the Thor superhero is that a Norse god named Thor goes to earth and does heroic deeds he's not some superhero dude who dresses like a Norse god and calls himself Thor, but this is what marvel is trying change it to.
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@outside_85 said:
@lvenger: PR releases dont tell you everything, considering we know absolutely nothing about her, I am convinced it's not going to be the case.
I seriously doubt Aaron has the clout to make that kind of decision. And it doesn't look like his, as you said, he's on a roll otherwise.
Well, thats your choice, but Thor (unlike Wally) is still around, he's just not going to have the hammer.
Yea Thor ... err ... his name isn't Thor , I'm going with "Ghor" cuz of the axe and missing arm ... here we go "The Mighty Ghor !"
@lvenger said:
@dernman said:
@lvenger said:
I could be wrong but I think many of these ideas are just not his. He's just putting it together for them.
The thing with Fury, Winter Soldier, Thor, the freaking eye.
I think you're right. The original concept came from Brubaker and other Marvel writers have added their ideas to it too. This is like a bad cooking pot of story ideas where different writers contribute to the broth. And the final product is not a good one. Pardon the metaphor but it felt appropriate at the time.
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Meet "Ghor the Barbarian" .... slower , dumber , bloodier than you have ever seen him !!
Follow the "Mighty Ghor" , no longer burdened by armor or hammer , Midgards mightiest hero will defend the ... errr fight for the ... errr just fight actually ... but don't worry your hero is in good hands !! What !? I promise ... no really !!
@foamborn said:
@v_scarlotte_rose said:
@allaric: #22 of the current Thor series sold 36,945 copies, and was the 53rd best selling comic of the month, and #22 of the previous Thor series sold 35,328 copies, and was the 71st best selling comic of the month. If anything it's doing a little better under Jason Aarons control.
plus sales and quality are never proportional, in this case the numbers betray the vast quality of this run, the dialogue is smart, sharp, very well done and the art is incredible. Esad Ribic and Jason Aaron make an almost perfect team for a character like Thor in my opinion, I've thoroughly enjoyed it. The dialogue between Odin and the Queen of Angels in Original Sin was very good.
You CAN'T be serious, Aarons writing and character development is the worst I've seen in the Thor comics and it's clear Aaron knows little to nothing about the Thor character or comic. First lets compare Aaron's comic sales to those of a real writer like J. Michael Straczynski. Straczynshki's first Thor issue sold over 165,000 issues the first month. Even at its lowest Straczynski's series still stayed above 73,000/month with it usually hovering around 80,000/month with it at over 96,000/month at the end of Straczynshki's magnificent run !! NOW that's what a good writer does for a comic and all of this WITHOUT a blockbuster movie franchise going ! Verily !
FYI the series before Aarons was a bi-weekly run selling 2 issues a month so even then that series out sold Aarons by 100% selling over 72,000 issues /month , double what Aaron has sold. So yes Aaron run IS the lowest selling monthly Thor comic that's why Marvel, in an act of desperation is doing the she Thor "Thorlene" character.
As far as writing Aarons characters are barely interesting and failingly one dimensional , as well as weak and repetitive. In Aarons first story his antagonist was a joke. It was clear Aaron was either to lazy or incapable of developing a viable antihero character even the name was ridiculous "Gorr" , "Gee Gorr let me guess what you spend most of your time doing ? " How incredibly amateurish , to simply name your character after what he does, good thing he wasn't in the feminine hygiene business Aaron would have named him "douchebag". The whole god butcher series was a battle between tedious and boring with both winning in a tie as a tediously boring series that was terribly unappealing and thinly-plotted. Readers are tortured through a cycle of blood and gore, and dead gods in three timelines, and very little sense. "Hahahaha! I'm evil! I'll kill everyone and save you for last...and it's all your fault. Ha, Ha, Ha ! " LAME !!. Verily !
Another problem with Aarons writing is he doesn't know the Thor character, or the Thor comic. Aaron's style is NOT suited for the Thor comic it is to dark, to bloody and unpleasant. There is too much emphasis on torture death and suffering, but not enough on heroics there's too much focus on Thor being a deity to be worshipped rather than a superhero to be admired. Aaron's Thor comic is a terrible experiment, it is a disturbing, depressing story that doesn't deserve to be a Thor comic. Thor fans enjoy Thor in his more fantastical , magical settings with outer space adventure and fun action. I honestly don’t know what people like about Aaron's Thor it's so poorly written, it completely lacks any connection to the true Thor character and story, and by Aaron fans it is terribly overrated,Verily !
The sooner Aaron is off the Thor comic the better. Hopefully the idiots at Marvel/Disney will have learned from their mistake and put a real writer like a J.Michael Straczynski's on the Thor comic and true fans of the Thor comic can once again enjoy reading about their favorite Mjolnirwielding Thunderer smiting Midgard's foes !!
@arturocalakayvee said:
@foamborn said:
I'm actually super excited about female-thor, I can't wait to find out who she is. Most importantly, Aaron's run has been so smashingly good that right now I trust him almost blindly.
THIS
So you are not aware that the Thor comic sales are at an all time LOW , and has been losing 1000's of readers each month. Sales of Aaron's Thor have been on a steady decline for the last year, this is far from "smashingly good" it is horrendously terrible, especially when you consider Aaron has had the benefit of writing during a period time that had Blockbuster Movies involving Thor !!
Aaron's writing style is not suited to the Thor comic, his style is better for a darker themed comic like The Punisher or Spawn , NOT Thor. Marvel's management are idiots for putting a writer with Aaron's dark , dark style on the Thor comic during this time of high exposure to the Thor character. Anyone who would have gained interest in the comic from seeing Thor in the movies would be immediately turned off by a comic that is the antithesis of the Thor and Avenger movies. Aaron has already run off most of the traditional Thor comic fans and will run off the rest of them soon , as he continues his ruinous storyline. Thor comic sales have gone downhill since Aaron took over , the female Thor idea is just a PR stunt in hopes of a temporary sales bump , but that will only come from a re-numbering of the comic which always happens , and after that it will FAIL. Its terrible what is being done to what was one of the most uplifting comic characters
@barqs said:
@allaric: those websites are a Wiki, which means that anyone can easily edit almost any article plus I showed you scans of Thor using his weather manipulation without Mjolnir, in the one scan he had thrown it away first. Our discussion is getting off topic for this thread, there are many other threads in Thor's forum debating whether or not Thor can manipulate the weather without Mjolnir you should check them out.
LOL have you forgotten Mjolnir always returns to Thor ! That alone should be enough of a clue to you that you are wrong.
Its not really a discussion its just you refusing to accept the truth. Thor has his hammer in both those stories as well as all the others (pre-Aaron) , you can see the hammer in complete pages in reprints of those issues. Also the Marvel.com sites are correct, they are EXACTLY the same as the OFFICIAL MARVEL HANDBOOK regardless of what you choose to believe, it was always that way since the beginning in JIM #83.
Also to the OP , it's not magic , it's Elemental since it is actual lightning, the magic is on the Hammer itself which is enchanted. Thor is not a sorcerer of any kind.
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