Allaric

I'll just quote the OP quote ...

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@winter_kills Quote

"Beta Ray Bill was worthy & wielded Mjolnir, but never said he was Thor. Eric Masterson wielded Mjolnir, & yes, he was called Thor in generalization, but he never called himself Thor- he always stressed that he was just a substitute & that he wouldn't stop searching for the REAL Thor.

Thor isn't a title, like Captain America or Iron Man. It's his NAME. There's only ONE TRUE Thor & there always will be. The inscription on the hammer says "Whosoever Holds This Hammer, If He Be Worthy, Shall Possess The Power of Thor." Not "Whosoever Holds This Hammer, If He Be Worthy, Shall BECOME Thor." I think there's definitely some confusion there. Only one person used the hammer to BECOME Thor, & that was Donald Blake- because he WAS Thor. You can be worthy, like Bill & Eric, & be turned into a super-powered Thor-like form, because you received the power of Mjolnir- but that doesn't mean you become Thor. You are someone worthy of having his power- that doesn't mean you become him or take his name. Because that, my dear children, would be identity theft, & is frowned upon in most cultures".

Most of the other people that post in threads like this one , other than the above post by winter which I quoted , that make references to characters that have been Thor-like haven't read those Thor comics because if they had read them they would know that those references/comparisons are misleading because they are not the same. Anyway the answer in brief is in the OP , for more just read those comics with those other Thor-like characters and you will understand.

P.S.

One of the more outrageous comparisons was when a forum member compared it to comic in which Jane Foster was Thor-like . It was a bad comparisons mostly because it WASNT in a Thor comic it was in the " What IF" comic that by itself makes it a failed comparison , then if you read comic the comparison is even worse. I'm seeing a lot of angry and frustrated feminist trying to sell this idea and its only showing more and more how bad of an idea it is and I think this Thorlene idea is looking like an ugly baby situation.

Exactly , and the Thorlene comic will fail because it such a poorly conceived and ill contrived idea.

I posted this in the Thor forums , .http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/the-real-reasons-for-the-new-thor-cap-america-and--1586928/#16

but here's an abbreviated version.

So what do these 4 characters , she Thor , ex-Thor , Captain America and Ironman all have in common ? They all got a dramatic new IMAGE !!!

So in the business this is called re-imaging or re-branding , which leads to remarketing , DING ! Yes with all these new images of Marvels top comic book characters Marvel can now sell new licenses of new toys and games and make more money off essentially the same characters with little to no real work done. Hey do your kids already have Thor/Cap/Ironman toys and games , well guess what thanks to re-imaging they are the Old Thor/Cap/Ironman so now you can buy them all over again , and Marvel gets even more money !!

So there you have it comic fans our favorite super heroes have becomes victims of their own success/popularity.

I guess now what happens to your characters and their story is dependent on how Marvel can market toys and games to kids. When the market is saturated with one image they can just change the equipment , or gender or race to make it a new character , and the comic writers create an appropriate story line for the changes. I'll say it does kinda suck now for Marvel fans that the comic book characters stories are now driven by the guys in the Toys and Games marketing department and not the writers anymore.

For the doubters ...

Hasbro and Disney Expand Strategic Merchandising Relationship for Major Entertainment Properties

Agreement Extends Hasbro's Global Toy and Game Merchandise Rights for Marvel Characters Through 2020

link...http://investor.hasbro.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=779213

Well if you go by the one stat that measure this , Sales , then it is clearly Spidy.

What I have found out from reading various forums and talking to people in comic stores is that most of the guys aren't going to buy the "Thorwench" comics and neither are most of the women, and I see a lot of stress in the feminist over this.

@sc: said: "Don't personalize discussion with other users. If you aren't interested in being civil or extending goodwill to other users, do not address them. Very simple. I get it, this is a topic you feel strongly about, thats fine, but don't accuse other users of lying, because you have problems with Marvel. It will simply earn your warnings, as well as get your posts deleted. First warning."

As a moderator you should use the personal messaging for comments like this , not the forum threads , by doing this publicly you send a message to other forum posters that they cant disagree with you, which can be interpreted as intimidation and harassment.

I will simply ignore you from now on.

@sc:

None of those examples are the same as what Marvel is doing with the she-Thor. As a moderator here I would expect you would at least point out the differences.

@dagmar_merrill:

It is this simple , Thor is a proper name not a mantle , it has been that way for 1000's of years in the source Mythology and for over five decades in Marvel comics. Marvel can't change naming conventions that are outside of the norm without shredding every ounce creditability of the character.

So sure marvel can just do it , but it will be so contrived that the character will be unacceptable to readers.

@karazor-el:

I prefer calling her "Thorlene". Jason Aaron is from Alabama and the name+lene is a common naming tool there.

But everyone should keep in mind who ever she is she will have to be "worthy", as in Captain America worthy.