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going by feats logic : stalemate, because Hulk has better feats for striking power, but Saitama has better feats for speed.

going by Onepunch man's Writer confirmation : Saitama stomp with one punch

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And not like Thanos will open up with telepathy or probably even use it, especially if you look at his recent appearances like in Infinity or against his encounter with the Annihilators.Or his shields, telekinesis or mutation because it's something he hardly does or would probably do too late

so you're saying that even if Thanos did use TK, TP, matter manip, shields...etc many times, he won't use them in this fight just because he doesn't use them all the time and recently ? ok fine. wanna go with this rule, then i guess Wally won't be faster than light, and can be tagged by omnidirectional blasts because Wally most of the time doesn't go faster than light and bazillion of times got tagged by slow characters. This settles it Thanos still stomp then.

Because it's something Thanos hardly does, especially against opponents he doesn't know.He did it to Gladiator because he feared an encounter with him and the Justice League has a Superman of their own.Even then, Hal and Zatanna can bring back any person who was BFR'd.Half the characters here would see Thanos like a statue anyways and most of his attacks can be dodged or avoided.

Just how exactly, teleporting the entire battle field meaning teleporting the entire DC team instantly to a black hole, how exactly are they gonna dodge or avoid that? you can't avoid teleportation, it's instant.

No he wasn't. Steve was dodging him easily and stopped in place to allow Surfer to steal the gauntlet off his hand.And like I said: Nebula snatched the gauntlet off his hands as well and Nebula doesn't have speed near some of the characters here.J'onn has taken on the Justice League so taking on the Avengers and F4 isn't as impressive.

so many wrong stuff here.

Cap was barely dodging and that's because Thanos was just playing around he already beaten every Avenger + Xmen that came to fight him, he was just toying with Cap and was about to punch him but Surfer appeared, Thanos did even have time to look back at Surfer and think, before Cap could do anything, a moment after that thanos b?ch slapped Cap to the ground. It's very obvious Thanos was toying around.

Nebula snatched the IG because Thanos was far away from his body, in other words far away from IG, even me, i would have been able to snatch the IG in that situation, this has nothing to do with speed.

1.Shields Thanos barely uses and Wally can phase through them.A guy who vibrating abilities surpasses that of Martian Manhunter and can travel dimensions by vibrating.No problem for Wally

prove it.

Wally also barely uses phasing, and he will probably get himself killed by squashing himself with super speed to an invisible force field made by Thanos. and the funny thing is that this accident already happened to him when he smashed himself to a wall while running at super speed.

Wally can't phase through sheilds, specially shields from Thanos that are built to be phase-proof, don't believe me ask Vision, he couldn't phase through Thanos shields. Wally did only one time phase through shields because Barry was there to help him phase, Wally couldn't do it alone, and it took him a lot of time to do it. Not very effective in battle if it's taken so many time you'll be easy target.

2.Why wouldn't he steal a glowing gem that Thanos is using as a weapon?Won't be that different from Wally's encounter with the philosophers stone or the gem from the Cobalt incident.

no it's different, in those events Wally knew what to steal and why to steal it. In this battle, Wally doesn't know anything about the power gem, he doesn't know that it's a source of infinite power, he wouldn't even notice it.

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@god_spawn said:

@khael: Thawne is mostly referred as Professor Zoom or Reverse Flash. Hunter Zolomon is Zoom.

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Thanos stomps.

even if he can't tag him he can TP him, and if he can't TP him he can teleoport him inside a black hole, or simply put up invisible shields and wait for Zoom to squash himself with super speed on the shield.

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Why would running into an invisible force field squash him? The Flash characters impact things at high speeds all the time without splatting. Zoom running into a force field isn't going to make him a bug on a windshield.

I thought Flash characters could do that because of protection from the speed force, where Zoom has no said such protection. Is there example of Zoom going full speed into a wall or something similar and being unfazed?

Wally himself had splatted himself into a wall while moving in super speed, and he broke a lot of his bones because of that

and this is not an ordinary wall, this is an unbreakable force field that resisted blasts from beings on the level of Galactus, plus it's invisible, so yeah Zoom will suqsh himslef into the force field

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@keenko said:

@all_mighty_beyonder: To be fair, the only instance I know of him successfully TPing Galactus he was amped by Moon Dragon.

That's true.

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@all_mighty_beyonder: Thanos needed Moondragon's help just to get into Galactus mind there and has also had to get her so she could perform other basic tp feats which Thanos seemingly could not. Thanos' tp is mostly myth imo. You don't need high level tp to have high level defense either which is what Thanos has. tp defense isn't proof of being a high level telepath.

all what you said is true except the bold part is wrong. Thanos mind raped Drax The destroyer (the classic version), Thanos mind raped The Fallen One and made him into a slave, mind slaving a herald level being is quite impressive if you ask me, Thanos also mind controlled the Hulk, and Hulk has a very decent track record of resisting telepaths. Thanos fought Silver Surfer in a mind battle and won, and Surfer has quite powerful TP, Surfer could TP the entire planet.

So no it's not a myth, Thanos is indeed a very powerful telepath

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LT wins this and i may add wins rather easily.

LT >>>>>> IG

and : IG >>> Eternity + Death + White Phoenix Of The Crown + Galactus w/ UN + Lord Chaos & Master Order + The In-Betweener + Tyrant (Fully Powered) + The Destroyer (Augmented by the 9 realms) + The Galactus Engine (Cancerverse) + Adult Franklin Richards + Post Retcon Molecule Man & The Beyonder

and Pre-Crisis Darkseid w/Omega Beams, Soulfire & The Anti-Life Equation is fodder compared to LT and IG.

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@all_mighty_beyonder: thanos never uses his tp. Plus zoom mind goes too fast for tp.

he does occasionnaly use it, he used to stomp The Fallen One, he used it to penetrate Galactus mind, he used to block any mind reading from Moondragon who had the mind gem, he's a very powerful telepath and a mastermind tacticien.

but anyway, with or without TP, Thanos still stomp

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regular Galactus < Cosmic Cube =< regular Celestials < high tier Celestials

Cosmic Cube =< regular Celestials < 4 planets fed Galactus < high tier Celestials

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Thanos stomps.

even if he can't tag him he can TP him, and if he can't TP him he can teleoport him inside a black hole, or simply put up invisible shields and wait for Zoom to squash himself with super speed on the shield.

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