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#1  Edited By a_marques
@violetkyoshin said:

@a_marques: I have never seen Wesker one-shot Chris except for a failed QTE, but that hardly matters since Gorgon is tougher than Chris and can regenerate. Gorgon is also faster and more skilled than Wesker by feats, on top of being a telepath, not only able to predict Wesker's moves but also able to attack him psychically while beating him physically.

The QTEs show us what would happen if Chris failed to dodge the attack (which was only possible due to Wesker being weakened at the time and his movements becoming sloppier by each passing moment as confirmed by statements). Wesker was also about to one shot Chris with the same move before Jill sacrificed herself. Gorgon being tougher than Chris has to be a joke, lol. The feat I showed alone is way better than anything you brought up. Tanking a 2 hit combo from a building sized monster who was destroying everything in it's path with single attacks is definitely better than tanking a single hit from a holding back Spider-Man. And tanking a room sized explosion is nowhere near as good as tanking a building sized explosion immediately after being beat up by Kaiju sized Mutant Dylan.

Show me him regenerating from a fist sized hole through the heart. Or a broken neck.

Gorgon isn't even faster than Chris. What can he do? Deflect bullets? Nothing Leon can't replicate and Chris is his equal. He outpaces bullet timers? Chris does the same against beings who outpace bullet timers themselves.

His prediction isn't going to do much against someone who far outclasses him in stats.

Wesker will blitz the shit out of him beat him up effortlessly and can one shot with a neck break or spear hand attack.

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@the_hajduk said:

@a_marques: Can he really oneshot Chris though? I like to argue that Chris is rivals with Wesker and has wins over him.

He one shots him in several quick events if you're not fast enough to press them and avoid the attacks. And he was about to one shot kill him when Jill sacrificed herself to throw him out of the window. And he can effortlessly break Chris' neck as well.

And Chris is definitely not rivals with Wesker. At all. Wesker destroyed him in every single cutscene.

In the official RE5 summary, it's stated that Chris and Sheva didn't stand a chance to match Wesker and Jill in a physical fight, while in the in game dialogue, Chris and Sheva say they will never win in an actual fight and that they should hide. So basically in canon, they avoided Wesker in a hide and seek game for 7 minutes. Also in the official RE5 summary, it's confirmed that they had to kill the lights and shoot him with rockets to allow them to inject him with the serum. So Chris and Sheva beating him up was never an option and it isn't canon.

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@violetkyoshin said:

@the_hajduk: He's been hit with a missle dead-on and hit by Spider-Man and was just fine.

Wesker can still one shot Chris when he wants. Chris(alongside Leon) can tank hits from a Kaiju sized monster, then a building sized explosion immediately after and be just fine.

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@cryolancer47: can you stop editing your post after I have replied to it? Thanks.

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@a_marques said:

@cergic: @solarwind: @cryolancer47: Chris outspeeds and cuts him in half.

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He's a lot faster and more skilled. And he can at least keep up in terms of strength and durability.

So what you're saying is:

- Ult Captain America is knife tier durability

- Chris is (a lot!) faster

- More skilled

- And equally strong and durable

is that the essence of it?

Yes to everything except for Chris being equally as strong and durable. I said he can keep up in those category. He's not going to be helpless against Cap. That's all.

And are you trying to imply Ult. Cap can tank knives? Just so you know: that monster he cut in half took a point blank full burst of fire from Chris' custom made assault rifle (which was punching fist sized holes in zombies) with little damage. If Chris can cut her in half, he can definitely do the same thing to Cap.

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@cryolancer47:

I didn't post any. Most folk already know his capabilities. And there's a RT made for him, etc. Still, not posting anything is better than doing what you did, which is the equivalent of "Trust me, bro"

And people have been posting Chris' feats in several recent threads. Most of the people tagged have seen those feats already. Educate yourself.

Ironic, considering who's saying it, but okay. Seems you didn't learn from the last time I humbled you, etc.

You mean when I ignored you after I said all you do is rely on huge chain scaling, bring up non canon material and wank feats, only for you to post a bunch of nonsense proving everything I said? Lol. If you want so badly, I'm going to reply to that post soon.

Kek. The Kabal thing you mention I only bring up to highlight how fast he is. I don't use it as hard evidence like you do with every single feat/statement in RE. And I see no reason to do so considering his feats/scaling is more than enough. But even then, Kabal being that fast has more evidence to back it up than Chris being able to blitz Ultimate Cap, etc.

You bring it up every time someone tells you RE characters are as fast or faster than MK characters, 🤣. Nick posts Leon reacting to machine gun fire, you bring up Takeda/Scorpion reacting to lightning (which isn't even the correct interpretation of the feats) and Kabal running around the globe in a non canon fatality. I said Wesker is faster than Kabal due to him speedblitzing Chris and Jill, and what's your response? Immediately brings up Kabal running around the globe. Lol.

And no, there's no evidence whatever pointing towards Kabal being anywhere near that fast. That's literally thousands of times greater than anything he has ever done in any canon cutscenes or comics. Chris on the other hand is definitely a good deal faster than Cap by actual consistent feats. But it's clear you have no idea what consistency means, so it's no use to tell you that.

1. Yeah, I guess we should only take what you post seriously. Anyway, majority of NRS-era fatalities are consistent with what has been shown in cutscene and the character's capabilities. Unlike the old Midway games. Which you used as a reference here. Showing you're not even bringing up a good counter.

2. Majority of Midway-era fatalities, unlike NRS MK, are meant to be a joke/unrealistic. NRS included it because they like homages. And it isn't really a good example to counter his speed.

Nah, we just should never take anything you post seriously given how much you rely on nonsensical wanking.

And both eras have fatalities/brutalities and fatal blows that shouldn't be taken seriously due to how unrealistic and ridiculous they're. Like Cage smashing someone's head with the player's screen, hall of fame fatality or Sektor blowing up the planet with a few grenades. I guess Sektor with a few grenades>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Centurion since she can't do much damage to earth even after going full elder god mode.

And you're arguing the validity of the feat way too hard for someone who doesn't use it as hard evidence.

Being faster than bullet-timers and FTE characters isn't special to Ultimate Cap. He has dunked on, and kept up with people who are on/above that level such as Ultimate Wolverine. And if we wanna high-end wank, has reacted to lighting attacks, etc.

Cap isn't anywhere near that fast by consistency. Neither is Wolverine. Wolverine is just another FTE bullet timer. And so is Cap. Imagine thinking that arguing street levelers as being faster the FTE bullet timers is comparable to saying they are lightning speed. If I wanted to wank RE characters I would have brought up Leon and Jill reacting to light from a flash bang in RE6 and Death Island manga.

No, he is shown to be much faster than bullet-timers and characters who scale above bullet-timing. As shown when he fought the Ultimate Avengers, Hawkeye, Silver Wings, etc.

Show me him blitzing and outpacing them. And they scale to bullet timing feats, not above.

Couldn't care less about what a hypocritical wanker like you thinks, dear. If you like to high-end wank every feat to act as if Chris consistently moves at FTE speeds, then it's only fair we do the same to the opposing side and wank their feats to the extreme, etc. It's not my fault that I had to humble you the last time you approached me, etc.

Oh, the irony, lol. You're the definition of a hypocrite wanker. Always using false equivalence and weak excuses to use obvious outliers for your arguments. Chris being that fast is definitely waaay more consistent than Ult Cap being faster than lightning. If you want wank feats, then Leon and Jill reacting to light from a flash bang is massively better.

Learn how to debate properly, then you can talk about being able to humble anyone. If you look at my images you will see I had uploaded a bunch of gifs and comics/manga panels. The only reason I didn't make an extensive post tearing down every nonsense argument you made is because I didn't want to waste any more of my time, since I had better things to do. But don't you worry. I'm planning on doing that soon.

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@cryolancer47 said:
@a_marques said:

@cryolancer47: Chris outspeeds and cuts him in half.

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He's a lot faster and more skilled. And he can at least keep up in terms of strength and durability.

Awesome evidence, mate. I kneel. Chris has no feats to say he can blitz Ultimate Cap, who has plenty of feats to counter-wank if we wanna go to the other extreme. What you posted doesn't prove much of anything to support your claim.

Oh I'm sorry. I must have missed the feats you have posted for Ult Cap, lol.

Mate, we both know you're going to bring up wank feats no matter what. You just can't help yourself, lmao. I mean, you are the same guy who argues Kabal as being fast enough to run around the world in seconds by using 100% non canon brutality/fatality moves which are obviously not supposed to be taken seriously (in one of those brutalities we even have Kabal scaring the soul out of the opponents body by showing his ugly face, lol)

Chris has consistently been able to outpace FTE bullet timers to the point he can move and attack faster than they can move one single inch. Cap is consistently shown to be a bullet dodger who keeps up with FTE bullet timers.

But I am sure you'll try to say Cap is a lightning timer or light speed in combat because, like I said, you can't help it.

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@cergic: @solarwind: @cryolancer47: Chris outspeeds and cuts him in half.

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He's a lot faster and more skilled. And he can at least keep up in terms of strength and durability.

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@pedrolopesmateus said:

@a_marques: afraid you are ignoring lore here. I used to think the way you do now, but then I saw arguments and scans proving superheroes have esoteric properties in both mainstream Marvel and DC.

See post 18:https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/amenadiel-dc-vs-dante-dmc-2325276/

Thor explicitly explains how it works, you also have Dream of The Endless calling heroes the defenders of Creation in Dark Knights: Death Metal.

The Presence or other cosmic high-tier literally empowers DC heroes (similar things happen in Marvel) against other threats depending on how much he thinks their stories are worth being told.

That is a crazy amount of mental gymnastics just to wank comic book characters. That Thor story arc's whole theme was how the story could be molded by the characters for their benefit due to the God of Stories Loki's abilities and Thor's newfound ability to do the same thing to a lesser extent. Hell, Roxxon even bought the Marvel Universe for themselves, allowing then to rewrite everything for their benefit. Using that as an example for comic books as a whole when that's a specific plot point for that story arc is crazy. And that statement doesn't prove anything, lol. They are fighting to protect the universe. That's all. That doesn't mean they're being powered up by the Presence in every fight.

DC and Marvel characters like Batman and Daredevil are consistently shown to be street levelers who are around wall level. Period.

I'm not going to discuss that with you anymore. We're done here.