Tetsujin

Is there a thread on here, updated regularly, that has Hulk vs. Thor, both at full potential?

Or has the TOBA thing ended that debate?

A much, MUCH stronger SSJ Vegeta couldn’t lift a 1,000 ton robot.

Where are people getting that Namek arc SSJ Goku has better physical stats than this version of Hulk? Speed, sure (even though a weaker version of Hulk has tagged people far faster than Goku, like Silver Surfer, etc), but in every other physical category, he’s nowhere near him.

If you want to argue that Goku can make bigger explosions, go ahead. If you want to argue said explosions are doing anything to Hulk, that’s factually wrong. WB Hulk exhausted Sentry, and he literally has the power of a million exploding suns.

That’s many, many times solar system level, or however much you want to overestimate Goku.

Yami has an attack that ignores defenses, and he’s massively faster than light.

That’s just Yami, how does Naruto deal with the rest of the Black Bulls also?

Novel Kenpachi is confirmed more powerful than Ichibei (while in Shikai, to boot.) and Ichibei is confirmed to be the most powerful Royal Guard. His fellow Royal Guard, Shutara, literally shook multiple different universes with the reiatsu of her Bankai, after having her limiter removed.

See where I’m going with this? Nothing in One Piece compares to that Shutara feat, and Kenpachi is confirmed to be more powerful than her.

This is a massive mismatch.

@eredin12: Toriko has knocking, which is basically pressure point manipulation dialed up to ridiculous degrees, as well as infinite attacks (infinite nail punch).

As for Toriko’s speed, he’s massively faster than light. He was speed blitzing a being that literally statued other beings that all effortlessly dodged light speed attacks.

And another thing is, one of the Acacia dishes was stated to literally increase healing (cell replication) to be light speed. Literally light speed healing. Like Majin Buu on crack. Not sure how you can seriously argue that Goku outlasts someone with light speed healing, who is also also likely faster.

Hell arc Renji?

The Hell arc hasn’t happened. And even assuming it did happen, Zaraki would also receive a boost from that arc.

This is a huge mismatch, and I say that as a fan of both series.

Toriko is vastly, VASTLY more powerful.

@u_wot_m8: Yhwach was referring to base power levels when he said only he could steal Yamamoto’s Bankai.

You can’t be in possession of a stolen Bankai and use Volstandig, according to Bambi. Volstandig is also when a Quincy is at their most powerful.

So it’s more correct to say that only Yhwach, without using Volstandig (full power) is capable of stealing Yamamoto’s Bankai. Assuming that restriction didn’t exist, it’s entirely likely several other Quincy could steal Yamamoto’s Bankai.

@mahfire:

“Nothing suggests Senjumaru going all out would have destroyed the realms with just her reiatsu.”

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Not sure how to embed images on this site, but Nimaiya outright tells her not to overdo it. That’s him being cautious for the safety of the realms. He’s telling her not to unleash too much reiatsu while in Bankai.

It was stated that the Royal Guard at full power, would disrupt Heaven and Earth, so they (sans Ichibei, apparently) are forced to use a blood pact to limit their powers.

In order to lift the blood pact power limiter, the other Royal Guard committed suicide, after which Senjumaru uses her Bankai, which literally shows Soul Society and Earth shaking.

So yeah, prepare for tons and tons of Bleach power discussions.