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#1  Edited By 04nbod

I think that explains it though. All the memories of Donald's life were inplanted memories and not real. Donald is Thor who doesn't know he's Thor until he goes to Norway. Those 4 pages make it so simple.

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@ArturoCalaKayVee: I don't want to see Superman's underwear! I'm not a perv.

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Superman's ship is looking like the Legion Clubhouse

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#5  Edited By 04nbod

No love triangle with Sif. Any rivalry should be between Jane and Enchantress, Science and Magic. Sif was always a bit awful as a love interest, and whiny to boot.

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We are getting into a mess of continuity here but Odin originally sent Thor to Earth to learn humility therefore he must have a concept of humility. What you describe in the last paragraph is humility. I don't see how anything here disagrees with the fact Odin sees mortals as beneath him. Its like animals in a way. We love animals but if animals get a contagious disease we kill them. Odin's actions in Fear Itself are no different. To Odin, Thor is basically doing the equivalent of Greenpeace on Earth

Jane's test was absolutely rigged. Look at the issue again, look at where he calls his subordinate for the Lurking Unknown and the subordinate says that none but Odin himself can control that beast. Jane was given the power of flight and she was locked in a tight space with a monster, not exactly helpfull and purposely so. She also got no weapons. Jane was there 10 minutes at most. She was given no training to defeat the monster at all. There were two options available to her 1) Call for help and fail 2) die and fail. Either way Odin gets rid of her as he wants. 'Fear' is irrelevant, even the Gods feel fear as shown in Fear Itself. And Thor himself succumbs to The Lurking Unknown in the issue. All Odin's actions were driven by the fear of losing his son. Later writers went even further and suggested that Odin had called Heimdall to summon Sif back to Asgard before Thor and Jane had even arrived there. Odin already had the entire plan worked out. He wiped the minds of both Thor and Jane of each other and sent them in opposite directions. There is no justification for playing people like puppets let alone his own son.

This elseworlds issue (http://www.comicvine.com/what-if-what-if-thor-and-the-avengers-battled-the-asgardian-gods/37-21058/) highlights all the problems of 'To Become an Immortal' and resolves them while allowing Odin comes across very well in it. It comes to the conclusion that it was never Jane that was unworthy, it was Odin that was afraid of losing his child to her. Its one of those elseworlds that is better than what actually happened.

Thor's devotion to Earth is in his blood not in how he was raised as shown primarily by Odin, Frigga and Sif expecting him to get bored of Earth and return to Asgard forever. Thor is different from Asgardian because of Gaea and as such I don't think anyone there quite understands him.

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#7  Edited By 04nbod
The ways of Gods parallel the ways of man
The ways of Gods parallel the ways of man

I don't think its coincidence that Jane hears that from the nutty teenager. She regularly forgets Thor exists and gets those memories back without any stimulus. When Thor revealed to her he was Donald all she said was that she already knew 'in her heart'. If Matt is being smart about this he could probably tie Thor to life by tying him to Jane somehow.

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Odin has always seen mortals as beneath him and unworthy. This stretches right back to the beginning when Thor was thrown out of Asgard and sent to be humbled by becoming inferior, then there was his adamance that Jane was not good enough to be a god to the point he set up a rigged test as an excuse to banish her and get Thor with Sif.

Thor's devotion to earth and mortals comes from his mother Gaea. And I half think the reason Thor was so arrogant in the first place was his father's example

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#9  Edited By 04nbod

Put her and Sif in a book and give Jane the role as Thor's love interest and I'd be on board.

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@FastDebrid: I think people were expecting an epic love affair in this movie and were shocked that it was so understated. Hence you get a lot of 'underwritten' comments. I would have liked more of them but then,I love the Thor/Jane dynamic in everything, its just a concept that works. Here is hoping the second movie is more in the spirti of Thor: The Mighty Avenger though and we get a treasure of a love story.

Its shocking how poorly Jane Foster is treated by Thor fans (and Marvel). I did serious work to her Comicvine page after the movie to get it anywhere resembling accurate or representative of her character and story.