@theicon: 90 plus by my count...not sure how you only got forty just saying.

I could really care less about his his skin color. I would have complained if if Vin Diesel, Bruce Willis, Ice-T, Mr. T or any other meat head you can think of. I know comics aren't realistic, but it drives me a little crazy someone who met real-life editors. Editors don't get to play in the field, they spend late nights yelling at writers and live on coffee and eat vending machine food and whatever can be delivered at odd hours. Perry is the annoying, cranky, demanding father, not the fit uncle who will let you ride on his motorcycle as long your mother doesn't find out.

@.Mistress Redhead. said:

@theicon: OH sure, attack me.. tons of other posters agreed with Fesak, but I am the one that gets picked on... typical ;)

LOL thats messed up.

DC's answer to Samuel L. Jackson. 

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

@Gambler said:

@.Mistress Redhead. said:

@theicon: OH sure, attack me.. tons of other posters agreed with Fesak, but I am the one that gets picked on... typical ;)

LOL thats messed up.

So me though right? lol

@fesak said: 

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

That...that happens like all the time. Maybe not "comic book character" but "character?" Oh yeah. Non-white characters get portrayed by white actors on the silver screen. And when this happens, people are usually rightfully upset because non-white actors and actresses are so underrepresented in the industry. Which is a shame.

@Gambler said:

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

Keep in mind there is no equality in representation in comics in the first place. Doing something like making Storm white would be a step backwards. If it were even on all side, you could take a piece here, there, but one section is a little more developed than another. There is no arguing that. Plus, have you guys seen LF's role in Predators?? OMG

@Caligula said:

@Osiris1428 said:

@Gambler said:

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

Keep in mind there is no equality in representation in comics in the first place. Doing something like making Storm white would be a step backwards. If it were even on all side, you could take a piece here, there, but one section is a little more developed than another. There is no arguing that. Plus, have you guys seen LF's role in Predators?? OMG

I've been down with Larry since Elm Street 3: the Dream Warriors. I've liked him in pretty much everything since then.

QFT

@Osiris1428 said:

@Gambler said:

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

Keep in mind there is no equality in representation in comics in the first place. Doing something like making Storm white would be a step backwards. If it were even on all side, you could take a piece here, there, but one section is a little more developed than another. There is no arguing that. Plus, have you guys seen LF's role in Predators?? OMG

Like I said I'm not in favor of changing any comicbook characters ethnicity just for the sake of appearing diverse. Merely pointing out the outrage it would cause should the standard White character to Black character roles be reversed. I also mentioned (might of been a different diversity thread) had these companies started out creating more diverse characters to begin with they wouldn't need to change the races of established characters now. And I agree, one side is more developed, but simply swapping one race for another does nothing to develop the lingering section. Whats needed are original, new, innovative, ethnically diverse characters. And I'm a fan of LF. Deep Cover was the first movie I saw him in and he was a beast. I also liked his character in Boyz in Da Hood.

@Osiris1428 said:

@Gambler said:

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

Keep in mind there is no equality in representation in comics in the first place. Doing something like making Storm white would be a step backwards. If it were even on all side, you could take a piece here, there, but one section is a little more developed than another. There is no arguing that. Plus, have you guys seen LF's role in Predators?? OMG

Like I said I'm not in favor of changing any comicbook characters ethnicity just for the sake of appearing diverse. Merely pointing out the outrage it would cause should the standard White character to Black character roles be reversed. I also mentioned (might of been a different diversity thread) had these companies started out creating more diverse characters do begin with they wouldn't need to change the races of established characters now. And I agree, one side is more developed, but simply swapping one race for another does nothing to develop the lingering section. Whats needed are original, new, innovative, ethnically diverse characters. And I'm a fan of LF. Deep Cover was the first movie I saw him in and he was a beast. I also liked his character in Boyz in Da Hood.

@Osiris1428 said:

@Gambler said:

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

Keep in mind there is no equality in representation in comics in the first place. Doing something like making Storm white would be a step backwards. If it were even on all side, you could take a piece here, there, but one section is a little more developed than another. There is no arguing that. Plus, have you guys seen LF's role in Predators?? OMG

Like I said I'm not in favor of changing any comicbook characters ethnicity just for the sake of appearing diverse. Merely pointing out the outrage it would cause should the standard White character to Black character roles be reversed. I also mentioned (might of been a different diversity thread) had these companies started out creating more diverse characters do begin with they wouldn't need to change the races of established characters now. And I agree, one side is more developed, but simply swapping one race for another does nothing to develop the lingering section. Whats needed are original, new, innovative, ethnically diverse characters. And I'm a fan of LF. Deep Cover was the first movie I saw him in and he was a beast. I also liked his character in Boyz in Da Hood.

@Gambler said:

@Osiris1428 said:

@Gambler said:

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

Keep in mind there is no equality in representation in comics in the first place. Doing something like making Storm white would be a step backwards. If it were even on all side, you could take a piece here, there, but one section is a little more developed than another. There is no arguing that. Plus, have you guys seen LF's role in Predators?? OMG

Like I said I'm not in favor of changing any comicbook characters ethnicity just for the sake of appearing diverse. Merely pointing out the outrage it would cause should the standard White character to Black character roles be reversed. I also mentioned (might of been a different diversity thread) had these companies started out creating more diverse characters do begin with they wouldn't need to change the races of established characters now. And I agree, one side is more developed, but simply swapping one race for another does nothing to develop the lingering section. Whats needed are original, new, innovative, ethnically diverse characters. And I'm a fan of LF. Deep Cover was the first movie I saw him in and he was a beast. I also liked his character in Boyz in Da Hood.

I prefer expanding total number of characters to introduce more diversity but I will defend the "different portrayal" approach as it can lead to some good and interesting performances. I think Sam Jackson is great as Nick Fury and Michael Clarke Duncan was the only good thing about Daredevil. Did it really "improve" those characters to make them black? No, but it did open up the pool of potential actors to not worry about it, which led to some good performances.   Could they have found somebody who was white who gave performances that were just as good? Probably yes, but I liked these ones and I like that the industry was open (for once) to introducing them.  Oh, and sometimes even the "new characters" diversity solution pisses people off when it comes time to deciding team book rosters. I still remember the internet sh** storm of the "minori-team" rants for the Justice League cartoon. Oh noes, they opted for John Stewart and Hawk Girl! Super heroes are ruined forever!

@fodigg said:

I prefer expanding total number of characters to introduce more diversity but I will defend the "different portrayal" approach as it can lead to some good and interesting performances. I think Sam Jackson is great as Nick Fury and Michael Clarke Duncan was the only good thing about Daredevil. Did it really "improve" those characters to make them black? No, but it did open up the pool of potential actors to not worry about it, which led to some good performances.   Could they have found somebody who was white who gave performances that were just as good? Probably yes, but I liked these ones and I like that the industry was open (for once) to introducing them.  Oh, and sometimes even the "new characters" diversity solution pisses people off when it comes time to deciding team book rosters. I still remember the internet sh** storm of the "minori-team" rants for the Justice League cartoon. Oh noes, they opted for John Stewart and Hawk Girl! Super heroes are ruined forever!

hey I like John Stewart. he is my favorite Lantern

@Caligula said:

@fodigg said:

I prefer expanding total number of characters to introduce more diversity but I will defend the "different portrayal" approach as it can lead to some good and interesting performances. I think Sam Jackson is great as Nick Fury and Michael Clarke Duncan was the only good thing about Daredevil. Did it really "improve" those characters to make them black? No, but it did open up the pool of potential actors to not worry about it, which led to some good performances.   Could they have found somebody who was white who gave performances that were just as good? Probably yes, but I liked these ones and I like that the industry was open (for once) to introducing them.  Oh, and sometimes even the "new characters" diversity solution pisses people off when it comes time to deciding team book rosters. I still remember the internet sh** storm of the "minori-team" rants for the Justice League cartoon. Oh noes, they opted for John Stewart and Hawk Girl! Super heroes are ruined forever!

hey I like John Stewart. he is my favorite Lantern

Mine too, and in no small part because of his appearances in the animated stuff. A lot of kids grew up with John Stewart as their Green Lantern because of that and that is awesome.

@fodigg said:

@Caligula said:

@fodigg said:

I prefer expanding total number of characters to introduce more diversity but I will defend the "different portrayal" approach as it can lead to some good and interesting performances. I think Sam Jackson is great as Nick Fury and Michael Clarke Duncan was the only good thing about Daredevil. Did it really "improve" those characters to make them black? No, but it did open up the pool of potential actors to not worry about it, which led to some good performances.   Could they have found somebody who was white who gave performances that were just as good? Probably yes, but I liked these ones and I like that the industry was open (for once) to introducing them.  Oh, and sometimes even the "new characters" diversity solution pisses people off when it comes time to deciding team book rosters. I still remember the internet sh** storm of the "minori-team" rants for the Justice League cartoon. Oh noes, they opted for John Stewart and Hawk Girl! Super heroes are ruined forever!

hey I like John Stewart. he is my favorite Lantern

Mine too, and in no small part because of his appearances in the animated stuff. A lot of kids grew up with John Stewart as their Green Lantern because of that and that is awesome.

have you read Green Lantern: Mosaic ? it's one of the best arc featuring John.

@Caligula said:

@Gambler said:

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

I know. Which makes the so called "equality supporters" more two-faced then Harvey Dent.

Agreed. If its okay to change Spiderman's ethnicity then it should be equally okay to change Blade's. But just for the record I'm not a fan of changing any major comicbook characters race. In my opinion a CB characters look is the single most important aspect.

@Caligula said:

@fodigg said:

@Caligula said:

@fodigg said:

I prefer expanding total number of characters to introduce more diversity but I will defend the "different portrayal" approach as it can lead to some good and interesting performances. I think Sam Jackson is great as Nick Fury and Michael Clarke Duncan was the only good thing about Daredevil. Did it really "improve" those characters to make them black? No, but it did open up the pool of potential actors to not worry about it, which led to some good performances.   Could they have found somebody who was white who gave performances that were just as good? Probably yes, but I liked these ones and I like that the industry was open (for once) to introducing them.  Oh, and sometimes even the "new characters" diversity solution pisses people off when it comes time to deciding team book rosters. I still remember the internet sh** storm of the "minori-team" rants for the Justice League cartoon. Oh noes, they opted for John Stewart and Hawk Girl! Super heroes are ruined forever!

hey I like John Stewart. he is my favorite Lantern

Mine too, and in no small part because of his appearances in the animated stuff. A lot of kids grew up with John Stewart as their Green Lantern because of that and that is awesome.

have you read Green Lantern: Mosaic ? it's one of the best arc featuring John.

I'm embarrassed to say that no I have not. Is it collected as a trade paperback?

@fodigg: I'm sorry to say it's never been collected in Trade format.

@Caligula said:

@fodigg: I'm sorry to say it's never been collected in Trade format.

Those racist bastards. ;)  No but seriously that sucks. I'll have to track down singles somewhere. Thanks for the suggestion!

@fodigg: I guess it comes down to a personal preference.

@fodigg: I guess it comes down to a personal preference.

@Gambler said:

@Kal'smahboi said:

@Gambler: Maybe they did. Who thinks that Snyder has an in with DC and Perry White is black in the DCnU?

Thats kind of more of the same though. My point is that Perry White could have easily been black from the very beginning. (Insert character name here) could have been (insert ethnicity here) from the beginning. But since they weren't all these recent attempts to rectify that situation seem disingenuous in my opinion.

Or Maaaaaaaybe Laurence was the actor that walked in there and blew everyone away. I was reading recently where Idris Elba just won himself a part that was originally written for Brad Pitt.

As a comic reader I have no idea who Perry White is, I doubt the general public does as well, so I'm more than happy to label this as a "non issue" and move on. It'd be like recreating a scene from a comic and having the cashier right handed instead of left.

@pixelized said:

@Gambler said:

@Kal'smahboi said:

@Gambler: Maybe they did. Who thinks that Snyder has an in with DC and Perry White is black in the DCnU?

Thats kind of more of the same though. My point is that Perry White could have easily been black from the very beginning. (Insert character name here) could have been (insert ethnicity here) from the beginning. But since they weren't all these recent attempts to rectify that situation seem disingenuous in my opinion.

Or Maaaaaaaybe Laurence was the actor that walked in there and blew everyone away. I was reading recently where Idris Elba just won himself a part that was originally written for Brad Pitt.

As a comic reader I have no idea who Perry White is, I doubt the general public does as well, so I'm more than happy to label this as a "non issue" and move on. It'd be like recreating a scene from a comic and having the cashier right handed instead of left.

Its possible. But if thats the case then they could have had a great actress walk in and blow em away and instead of changing his race, they change his gender. Whats the difference?

@Z3RO180: He voiced the Silver Surfer. It was Doug Jones who did motion captures and wore the suit..

@Caligula said:

@Gambler said:

@Caligula said:

Sure, why not. Imagine what would happen if they made a black comic book character white, though.

this I would pay to see the reaction to.

I wrote about this briefly in a blog I did about changing character race. We already know what the reaction would be which is why it'll never happen.

I know. Which makes the so called "equality supporters" more two-faced then Harvey Dent.

Agreed. If its okay to change Spiderman's ethnicity then it should be equally okay to change Blade's. But just for the record I'm not a fan of changing any major comicbook characters race. In my opinion a CB characters look is the single most important aspect.

@pixelized said:

@Gambler said:

@Kal'smahboi said:

@Gambler: Maybe they did. Who thinks that Snyder has an in with DC and Perry White is black in the DCnU?

Thats kind of more of the same though. My point is that Perry White could have easily been black from the very beginning. (Insert character name here) could have been (insert ethnicity here) from the beginning. But since they weren't all these recent attempts to rectify that situation seem disingenuous in my opinion.

Or Maaaaaaaybe Laurence was the actor that walked in there and blew everyone away. I was reading recently where Idris Elba just won himself a part that was originally written for Brad Pitt.

As a comic reader I have no idea who Perry White is, I doubt the general public does as well, so I'm more than happy to label this as a "non issue" and move on. It'd be like recreating a scene from a comic and having the cashier right handed instead of left.

Its possible. But if thats the case then they could have had a great actress walk in and blow em away and instead of changing his race, they change his gender. Whats the difference?

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Great Caesar's Ghost! While everyone from Hugh Laurie to Ed Harris has been suggested for the role, Zack Snyder's 'Man of Steel' has gone with an unconventional (but excellent choice) for the role of The Daily Planet's editor-in-chief Perry White: 'The Matrix' star Laurence Fishburne.

 

At this point, no one should be at all surprised that an iconic supporting role has been changed to reflect modern diversity (let's face it - comics are chock full o' white people), but we're sure that won't stop people from complaining about it anyway. However, let's really run this down and examine why Fishburne might be a good choice for the role. One, Perry White is essentially "the irascible boss" stereotype, a trope prevalent in all forms of media (see: J Jonah Jameson). If there's anyone out there who can play a stern, gruff, and intimidating boss character, it's Fishburne. From his recent stint as the head of 'CSI' to playing the man-behind-the-man in the'Matrix' trilogy, he's shown that he's not someone you want to mess with, and that he demands results. Two, all you really need for a great Perry White is the ability to huff and puff and then be surprised when everything works out. Toss in his catchphrase and a scene where he's chewing out some reporters, and you're good to go.

 

Previously played by Jackie Cooper in the original films, and then Frank Langella in the recent Bryan Singer reboot/homage, Fishburne will take over the role for WB's new revamp of the franchise in what will most likely be nothing more than an extended cameo. So, relax fanboys. There are probably much worse things to worry about (i.e. the director).

 

And I would like to add, that there was a movie where they changed a black character to white: Spawn. They changed Terry to a white guy.

I much rather watch his daughter. She should be Perry White. A naked one.

um i dident know you were in the forums gess

LOOOOLLLLL, stalker thread. 

Oh, these threads...

I have a feeling this will suck, Zack Snyder does not have a very good track record.

Dude! THIS IS FREAKING MORPHEUS! ohhh I get it! you got something against blacks! doncha! -_-

@dangerapple said:

@GT-Man said:

Dude! THIS IS FREAKING MORPHEUS! ohhh I get it! you got something against blacks! doncha! -_-

morpheus was awsome

@dangerapple said:

@GT-Man said:

Dude! THIS IS FREAKING MORPHEUS! ohhh I get it! you got something against blacks! doncha! -_-

morpheus was awsome

 

IKR, I bet that if Morpheus didn't take the wrong medication pill he would of kicked Mr.Smiths A$$ in the bathroom in Martrix 1

@GT-Man said:

@dangerapple said:

@GT-Man said:

Dude! THIS IS FREAKING MORPHEUS! ohhh I get it! you got something against blacks! doncha! -_-

morpheus was awsome

 

IKR, I bet that if Morpheus didn't take the wrong medication pill he would of kicked Mr.Smiths A$$ in the bathroom in Martrix 1

right well i personaly think he gave up for neo really neo wow

i like neo but its just hes just better then neo

@InnerVenom123: lol

@oraclex: You know...How many more comic book characters are we going to tolerate being turned black, or blacks being turned white, or indians played by a white man, before we finally get tired of it? What would happen if they suddenly made Spawn White? I imagine the black community would be in an uproar...and I can't say I would blame them...I would be in an uproar right along side them! Spawn is a black man, that is how I grew up and come to recognize Spawn, if I were to wake up one day and see him played by a white man, I would be pretty ticked off. Same as I am upset that Tonto is played by Johnny Depp. Really? An American Indian played by a white man? Was there a shortage of good American Indian actors? I mean, in Batman, they made Harvey Dent black, but then made him white again two movies later.They made Bosley black from Charlies Angels. Now Perry White? I mean come on....there is no reason for this what-so-ever. Makes no sense... What is the fascination with changing the races of all these characters into some other race? Is there something wrong with a character being played by the correct ethnic group? What, was there a shortage of good middle aged white actors to pick from?

Obviously it bothered me, they changed an iconic character for me.