Did he do the right thing? All things infacted and how the end results came out, was his decision right or wrong?

I personally would almost have to think that his decision was right, for the sole reason that i might have handled in the same way if i knew or thought the same things he did, it killed a great amount of people but inevitably saved the lives of the others (Instead of killing them all in a nuclear war).

But even though *****SPOILER****** Dr. Manhatten eradicated Roscharsch, his journal still lives on and we get to see the chubby kiosk guy get a hand on it, was roscharsch's death meaningless? (He as a person would of told the whole world about the lie that peace is based on but wont his journal to just the same anyway?)

I don't think it's an easy question to answer, but to state simply:

I think the means to his end was evil, but the end was intended to be "good."

I think in the end, Rorshach wanted to die

sadly yes

I don't think he wanted to die. I think he disagreed with Ozy, thats all. His death wasn't meaningless, I don't know why anyone would think that, since he was martyred for a cause.

"I don't think he wanted to die. I think he disagreed with Ozy, thats all. His death wasn't meaningless, I don't know why anyone would think that, since he was martyred for a cause.
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"I don't think he wanted to die. I think he disagreed with Ozy, thats all. His death wasn't meaningless, I don't know why anyone would think that, since he was martyred for a cause.
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How is that any different than what I just wrote?

Because in the end it was roscharsch's master plan that no one thought about, the way you thought is he died for peace, but the way roscharsch thought is he died for truth, leaving Manhatten and Ozymadias thinking it will never come out and peace will be restored. But thanks to that distraction soon thereafter war will begin anyway.

"the end was left for us to think about, and seeing as the journal that the news guy now has in his hands basically beholds the same information Roscharsch knew, the truth will be told anyway (we just didnt get to see it in the movie) "

the thing is, his boss tells him to print ANYTHING he can find, because peace made news boring, they have nothing to write about, so a "Paranoid Conspiracy" is the PERFECT thing for a news break, besides, the camera even twisted to Roscharsch's Journal at the end.

umm the journal never says Adrian's plan or his involvement with the squid or the manhattan attack

it ends with him saying that he and nite-owl are going to the antartida in order to stop him, considering how Rorschach is a psychopath that is wanted by the law and Nite-owl is also wanted by the law since he broke him out of prison and Ozymandias is beloved by the public I doubt anyone would believe them without proof anyway

"the thing is, his boss tells him to print ANYTHING he can find, because peace made news boring, they have nothing to write about, so a "Paranoid Conspiracy" is the PERFECT thing for a news break, besides, the camera even twisted to Roscharsch's Journal at the end."

"umm the journal never says Adrian's plan or his involvement with the squid or the manhattan attack

it ends with him saying that he and nite-owl are going to the antartida in order to stop him, considering how Rorschach is a psychopath that is wanted by the law and Nite-owl is also wanted by the law since he broke him out of prison and Ozymandias is beloved by the public I doubt anyone would believe them without proof anyway"

There is also the case that no one would believe it that Ozy would do such a thing.


In the end I agree with what Ozy did he found the solution that may not have been a cake walk in the morality department but that is why it worked.  If there was a chance for everything to come out all roses then superheros would not be needed.

"There is also the case that no one would believe it that Ozy would do such a thing.


In the end I agree with what Ozy did he found the solution that may not have been a cake walk in the morality department but that is why it worked.  If there was a chance for everything to come out all roses then superheros would not be needed.
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"umm the journal never says Adrian's plan or his involvement with the squid or the manhattan attack

it ends with him saying that he and nite-owl are going to the antartida in order to stop him, considering how Rorschach is a psychopath that is wanted by the law and Nite-owl is also wanted by the law since he broke him out of prison and Ozymandias is beloved by the public I doubt anyone would believe them without proof anyway
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Even with that journal that Rorschach left behind, there isn't any real evidence along with it to expose Adrian. Thus, it'll just be a bunch of bull and everything that Ozy planned for would still prosper. With Rorschach branded as a psychopath, the populace isn't going to believe what's in that journal, despite the fact that a local newspaper decides to publish whatever's in it.

Ohh nice one

Hmm... if I recall correctly, it was Dr. Manhattan's disappearance from earth (which Veidt caused) that sparked the Soviets to escalate things in Afghanistan. To me, it feels like Veidt saved the earth from a crisis he created in the first place and sacrificed millions of lives to do so. Since the earth was never going to be destroyed in the first place Veidt created a situation in which it would just so he could save it and measure up to his idol/s.

i believe it was wrong but with the outcome i dunno, i wouldn't have done what Ozy did

"Hmm... if I recall correctly, it was Dr. Manhattan's disappearance from earth (which Veidt caused) that sparked the Soviets to escalate things in Afghanistan. To me, it feels like Veidt saved the earth from a crisis he created in the first place and sacrificed millions of lives to do so. Since the earth was never going to be destroyed in the first place Veidt created a situation in which it would just so he could save it and measure up to his idol/s.

Also, there was no guarantee that the earth would react the way it did. Wasn't there a major sub-theme that humans are savage by nature? What if the Soviets took advantage of the situation and used it to launch a preemptive strike to finish the U.S. off? In other words Veidt sacrificed the lives of millions in a gamble that have just as easily ended humanity as prevent nuclear war. Either way Veidt stood to profit. If there was peace Veidt "saved the world" but if a nuclear war happened Veidt would be safe in his little antarctic abode and be there as the hero who helped rebuild humanity from the brink. 

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"Voidheart said:

how did Veidt start it in the first place?

It was Veidt who caused Dr. Manhattan to go to Mars with his "everyone you touch gets cancer" crusade. The reason the Soviets felt safe to invade Afghanistan was because the U.S. no longer had Manhattan. Ergo, Veidt caused the escalation in Afghanistan that he "saved the world" from."

It wasn't until the escalation in Afghanistan that the president and his advisors decided to "fuel the bombers". Otherwise Veidt sacrificed millions of lives to simply end the cold war, a war we know to have passed without nuclear incident.

"It wasn't until the escalation in Afghanistan that the president and his advisors decided to "fuel the bombers". Otherwise Veidt sacrificed millions of lives to simply end the cold war, a war we know to have passed without nuclear incident."

WOW, I still can't believe it, No matter what people say Watchmen is not a crappy book, it was created in the 80's and it still has this thing with us all today in 2009!!! (that's just to much for words!)

If we can only be saved by genocide, then we don't deserve to be saved.