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Odin
Character » Odin appears in 1373 issues.
Odin Borson, is a nexus being who is omnipotent and almost unrivaled in raw power . He is the son of Bor Burison, brother of Vili and Ve, husband of Frigga and the father of Thor, Vidar, Balder and adoptive father of Loki. Odin is the wisest and by far the most powerful of the Asgardian Gods. Alpha of the council of God Heads Odin is a name that is respected and feared throughout the Marvel Multiverse.
What is Odin's problem?
I think it's ironic that Odin sent Thor to Earth to learn humility as a human but now seems to treat humans like insects. But I think it's all part of the story, Odin is a jerk sure but he knows something is coming and is trying to fortify his people back in Asgard. He's acting like more of a jerk than usual to distance himself and the Asgardians from Earth.
I thought that was ironic too, that's why I was confused.
I think Odin is actually afraid of the God of Fear. He thinks that the time spent with humans has somehow weakened his people, and made them not ready to deal with the upcoming threat. Look at what the Void/Sentry did to Asgard. Before the close relations with humans, this kind of even would seem unfathomable, but low and behold, some psychotic mortal bought Asgard to its knees. I believe he blames humanity for the condition of Asgard, possibly to cover up his own insecurities of failing his people
Uhm, Odin's always been like that. He didn't send Thor to Earth to be as humble as a human, but to be humble in the presence of Odin. Its like a rich Majillioniare Emperor King who stars in Hollywood movies sending his son to a public school to be humble. Odin doesn't have a problem with humanity, they are just small and weakish and have this weird humany odor.
"I think Odin is actually afraid of the God of Fear. He thinks that the time spent with humans has somehow weakened his people, and made them not ready to deal with the upcoming threat. Look at what the Void/Sentry did to Asgard. Before the close relations with humans, this kind of even would seem unfathomable, but low and behold, some psychotic mortal bought Asgard to its knees. I believe he blames humanity for the condition of Asgard, possibly to cover up his own insecurities of failing his people "
Ohhh I see whut you did thare!
But in all seriousness I think you have pretty much Completely nailed it.
Having spent the afternoon drinking beer and reading Thor comics (post rebirth), I cant help but think Fraction's Odin is not the same as JMS's Odin.
JMS made Odin into a relatively likable god, but still flawed; breathing life into humanity, falling to Loki's manipulation yet admitting his own flaws while willingly accepting to remain in an eternal battle with Surtur. While Fraction's seems more in line with Marvel's perception of god-who-are-really-aliens, where humans are just annoying bugs to be toyed with if not squashed for their amusement at best.
JMS's Odin didnt blame Thor for not reviving him and actively told him not to, fractions however had Odin fighting Hela's puppy dog or something before being pulled back because of some unknowable evil that wont be seen for like 30 years or so.
So the question remains; Is Odin truly the one who created humanity (JMS) or is he some alien a-hole who couldnt give a damn about them (Fraction)?
Very good stuff. I can only add this. Odin alledgedly gave up an eye for the knowledge of the ages. Hung himself on Yggdrasil for nine days to suffer the death of life. He did this to become the All Wise. Odin should never be held accountable to anyone , cause his judgement should be held true, If there is any such cases. He should be portrayed that way .
@biggkeem89 said:
I think Odin is actually afraid of the God of Fear. He thinks that the time spent with humans has somehow weakened his people, and made them not ready to deal with the upcoming threat. Look at what the Void/Sentry did to Asgard. Before the close relations with humans, this kind of even would seem unfathomable, but low and behold, some psychotic mortal bought Asgard to its knees. I believe he blames humanity for the condition of Asgard, possibly to cover up his own insecurities of failing his people
Actually there are MANY humans/mutants that can humble Asgard , not to mention Odin himself , without much problems . Also , based upon the Sentry's ability to auto-resurrect , he isn't technically a mortal . That goes for a number of human mutants too . They are viewed as "mortals" only in the gods' view .
Also is Odin aware of Franklin Richards and what he can do ? I suppose his arrogance towards humanity would be greatly reduced , if he did .
@Outside_85: Awesome post, I truly prefer JMS' interpretation of Odin and the Asgardian gods. I completely despise what Fraction has done with Thor and Asgard.
@TheGodKiller3 said:
Actually there are MANY humans/mutants that can humble Asgard , not to mention Odin himself , without much problems .
Could you please give me a list? I can only think of maybe five or six without extensive prep. And with proper prep just about any character can be written to beat another.
Who could?
Franklin Richards
Molecule Man perhaps. He seems to have been written down some of late.
Sentry/Void On a good day.
Korvac at his most powerful.
Maybe Jamie Braddock
Mad Jim Jaspers of he is still around
What are some others?
Same here, bro.@Outside_85: Awesome post, I truly prefer JMS' interpretation of Odin and the Asgardian gods. I completely despise what Fraction has done with Thor and Asgard.
@seekquaze said:
@TheGodKiller3 said:
Actually there are MANY humans/mutants that can humble Asgard , not to mention Odin himself , without much problems .
Could you please give me a list? I can only think of maybe five or six without extensive prep. And with proper prep just about any character can be written to beat another.
Who could?
Franklin Richards
Molecule Man perhaps. He seems to have been written down some of late.
Sentry/Void On a good day.
Korvac at his most powerful.
Maybe Jamie Braddock
Mad Jim Jaspers of he is still around
What are some others?
Dark Phoenix/WPoTC
HoM Wanda
Franklin Richards
Mad Jim Jaspers
Pre-Retcon Molecule Man
Classic Dr Strange
Legion
Meggan(w/ power of beyond)
Roma
Merlyn
etc. etc.
@TheGodKiller3 said:
@seekquaze said:
@TheGodKiller3 said:
Actually there are MANY humans/mutants that can humble Asgard , not to mention Odin himself , without much problems .
Could you please give me a list? I can only think of maybe five or six without extensive prep. And with proper prep just about any character can be written to beat another.
Who could?
Franklin Richards
Molecule Man perhaps. He seems to have been written down some of late.
Sentry/Void On a good day.
Korvac at his most powerful.
Maybe Jamie Braddock
Mad Jim Jaspers of he is still around
What are some others?
Dark Phoenix/WPoTC
HoM Wanda
Franklin Richards
Mad Jim Jaspers
Pre-Retcon Molecule Man
Classic Dr Strange
Legion
Meggan(w/ power of beyond)
Roma
Merlyn
etc. etc.
I wouldn't exactly say your list is accurate. Several of those like the Wanda example and Dark Phoenix are one-time power ups or abstract entities in human form. Just about any major character if around long enough gets one of those. Didn't Captain America have access to a cosmic cube one time? Others like Roma and Merlyn are not so much humans as some sort of aliens/cosmic entities. Based on what you sated by many "mutants/humans" I was looking more for ones that could humble Odin in their default state who are actually from Earth.
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