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    Character » Northstar appears in 1779 issues.

    Twin brother of Aurora, Northstar is the haughty mutant speedster affiliated with the X-Men, though he was originally a member of Alpha Flight. He is most famous for being the first openly gay superhero.

    Did I miss something? Northstar and Hercules have slept together?

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    Baddamdog

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    #1  Edited By Baddamdog

    I was reading a summary of  Hercules: Fall of an Avenger #1 today and there's a moment where all the past lovers come together and talk about...well sleeping with Herc haha, and then there's this curious bit with Northstar... Here's the extract....
     
     

    Namor stands beside the sultry Snowbird, the deadly Black Widow and Alflyse, the Queen of the Dark Elves of Svartalfheim. ‘For now we women will speak of what truly matters’ Namora declares, asking her friends to present themselves. They do so, and Namora points out that although they come from vastly different nations and races, each of them has stood with Hercules.

    ‘And lay with him’ Snowbird announces, smiling, before declaring ‘Now come. I know there are others in the crowd who should join us…don’t be shy’ the goddess of the north declares. The Sub-Mariner looks confused, while Snowbird’s fellow former member of Alpha Flight - Northstar - exclaims ‘Is that the time? Gotta go!’ and speeds away. 
     
    Am I wrong in assuming this means Northstar's slept with Hercules?? Could someone maybe elaborate??

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    #2  Edited By Woerlan

    Yes, Herc, a true example of a stereotypical ancient Greek warrior, slept with Northstar. This of course, happened off-panel somewhen. It was quite an amusing part of the comic.

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    #3  Edited By DEGRAAF

    wait Herc swings both ways?

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    #4  Edited By joshmightbe
    @DEGRAAF:
    most of the ancient greek heros did, achilies, perseus and even herc himself had male lovers it was considered the norm back then
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    #5  Edited By Crom-Cruach
    @DEGRAAF said:
    " wait Herc swings both ways? "
    of course, as a matter of fact. the marvel version of Hercules is pretty toned down in that department compared to the mythological Hercules
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    #6  Edited By joshmightbe

    point of fact when they first married spartan women had their heads shaved the theory is it eased their husbands into switching from men to women

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    #7  Edited By DEGRAAF
    @joshmightbe:@Crom-Cruach: 
    Yea i knew the Mythological Hercules from the old stories  was that almost all Men at theat time were Gay or bi-sexual but i didnt realize Marvel made their Herc that way too.
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    #8  Edited By Crom-Cruach

    well.. the Marvel Hercules is supposed to also be the mythological Hercules in the Marvel world so it should be expected

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    #9  Edited By EdwardWindsor

    Mythical Herc was a a huge womanizer and occasionaly he would take what the text would call a beautiful man to his bed as well. So no suprise Marvel kept that part of his history something different, its not like you could see Thor doing it.
     
    Althought apperently viking where abit like that to

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    #10  Edited By Cherry Bomb

    Wooo.  (: 
    I am loving this new piece of information!
     - Northstar did good (;

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    #11  Edited By jordama

    Good job Jean-Paul, bagged him self a god
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    #12  Edited By NightFang3
    @DEGRAAF said:
    " wait Herc swings both ways? "
                 Wouldn't that make him more or less like his father? 
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    #13  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @NightFang:  indeed in mythology zeus even bedded nympths, people disguised as animlas as well. Zeus and Posideon where major players according to myth.
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    #14  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent: I wonder how and if Marvel well deal with "THIS" in the live-action films?
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    #15  Edited By EdwardWindsor

    They will probs completly ignore it or hint at it but i doubt it will be part of their game plan.

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    #16  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent said:
    " They will probs completly ignore it or hint at it but i doubt it will be part of their game plane. "
                 That suck, either DC or Marvel need's too put their LGBT's out there.
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    #17  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @NightFang: never know with film makers thou what they will take from source and what they wont.
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    #18  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent: Yeah, all the movie makers really have to do is, say this person is Gay, Bi or whatever and let's move on with the story.
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    #19  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @NightFang:  well it would be intresting if they did include it since i cnat think of an actual gya or bi perosn being outed ina superheor film yet, granetd i dont think there has been anybody they could of done it with bar colossus
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    #20  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent: The only superhero movie I know that had outed gay or Bi character's was Watchmen and most of them were dead.
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    #21  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @NightFang:  true taht i completly forgot about that film thou since i thought it was poor compared to original novel
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    #22  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent: Yeah, I think people really wouldn't care if they had Gay or Bi character's in a superhero film.
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    #23  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @NightFang:  thast true hence why its not be a big deal including it so thtas why i doubt they would include it if they introduce the ollympians into marvel film universe.
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    #24  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent: And that's also the messed up part because it could make things more entertainment.
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    #25  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @NightFang:  well u never know if we see a thor 2 would be intresting to work his friendship with herc in , could poss add some funny flirty herc lines in with people for comedy but i dont see it happeneing myself
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    #26  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent: Agreed, I think people would LTAO if it was used good.
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    #27  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @NightFang:  true as i said never know
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    #28  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent said:
    " @NightFang:  true as i said never know "
                 Yep. great talking too you, dude. 
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    #29  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @NightFang:  same to you dude always intresting to talk mythology and film lol
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    #30  Edited By jordama


     
     
     
    I love the fact that he just appeared, he wasn't in any other scene.
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    #31  Edited By Ahmed Sherif

    That's good 
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    #32  Edited By D3athstroke

    WTF is not Northstar man ?

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    #33  Edited By Baddamdog

    Haha Namor's reaction!! I like how Northstar's former team-mate Snowbird knew loool

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    #34  Edited By karrob
    @Crom-Cruach said:
    " @DEGRAAF said:
    " wait Herc swings both ways? "
    of course, as a matter of fact. the marvel version of Hercules is pretty toned down in that department compared to the mythological Hercules "
    So true. I was doing some research on Greek and Roman mythology and was taken by that fact. It was in deed normal then...Almost as normal as it is now. Oh well, Herc wasnt my favorite anyway. 
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    #35  Edited By InnerVenom123

    LOL good job Northstar! xD

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    #36  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @Baddamdog:  namor is probs just thinking thanks god Northstar did that now i wont have to say anything knowbody will ever know lol
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    #37  Edited By RonSiconolfi

    who hasnt hercules nailed?..hes a male whore 
    maybe he should actually i dont know---fight bad guys once in awhile instead of sleeping w/ everything that walks
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    #38  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    There was no reason to add this to Herc's story.

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    #39  Edited By jorgeareizaga

    I think it would be great if Northstar sleep with sexy Gambit!!!! Northstar would be very lucky!
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    Wow, Northstar actually had sex. Excelsior!

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    #41  Edited By joshmightbe

    I don't think herc is by so much as he's following the standard greco-roman sexual philosophy of "if it breaths you can have sex with it"

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    @joshmightbe: like when one of the amazons thought that he and Amadeus Cho were "together"
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    #43  Edited By joshmightbe
    @Emperor Gonzo Noir: pretty much but if you really pay attention to greek and roman mythology has some pretty insane sexual acts, gay sex is actually pretty tame in comparison to some of the crap they had going on 
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    #44  Edited By The_Martian

    Why does Marvel feel the need to suddenly say, "Oh, and he hit that." right after they die? They did the exact same thing with Sentry and Rogue when Sentry died.

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    @joshmightbe: actually I was talking about the implied pedophilia 
     
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    #46  Edited By joshmightbe
    @Emperor Gonzo Noir: they did that too, it was actually just as common as sleeping with women back then
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    #47  Edited By ~The Wanderer~
    @joshmightbe said:
    " I don't think herc is by so much as he's following the standard greco-roman sexual philosophy of "if it breaths you can have sex with it" "
    In other words, bi.
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    #48  Edited By joshmightbe
    @~The Wanderer~: no bi implies that there were only 2 options 
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    #49  Edited By ~The Wanderer~
    @joshmightbe: Hmm, I don't recall ever hearing/reading about bestiality in ancient Greece (aside from some mythological accounts like the minotaur and Zeus sleeping with people in animal form)...but that wouldn't be the first time I'd be wrong/didn't do my research =/
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    #50  Edited By joshmightbe
    @~The Wanderer~: Caligula did marry his horse tho that was Roman history tho they did share most of their mythology

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