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    Created by Jack Kirby, The New Gods are ruled by the wise and benevolent High Father on the planet of New Genesis, while minions exist only to serve the dictator Darkseid on the twin planet of Apokolips.

    Is DC Hinting Their Next Big Cross-Over Event?

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    Comic companies love big events, and so do comic readers (whether they want to admit to that fact or not); and some of the biggest events in DC Comics have been a result of two worlds merging together in an epic battle. Looking back at stories like 'Infinite Crisis' and 'Final Crisis,' these events dealt with characters from Earth 1 interacting with Earth 2, and very often we would see elements of Jack Kirby's New Gods as well. It's been a year since the launch of the DC reboot and we still have not had a big cross-over event, but how long will this last? How long until we see another event unfold in the DC Universe? We're guessing, not that much longer; and if you've been reading some of DC's biggest titles (JUSTICE LEAGUE and EARTH 2, for example) you might be inclined to agree with us.

    NEW GODS #1
    NEW GODS #1

    We should probably start off with a refresher course on the NEW GODS in order to better understand what elements of Kirby's "fourth universe" are popping up in some of DC's recently released books. In February of 1971 Jack Kirby published the NEW GODS at DC comics. In this new series, Kirby created new characters inspired by the mythology of ancient civilizations. Using these new characters, Kirby wrote one of the most epic tales comics has ever seen: a battle between gods. Kirby begged the question of whether it's possible for good to overcome evil. His characters served to develop a metaphorical dialogue about good (Highfather, Orion and Mister Miracle) and evil (Darkseid), and the journey of good overcoming that evil. His stories are timeless, classic, and still referenced to this day in many DC books and story arcs.

    NEW GODS #1
    NEW GODS #1

    In 2007 DC Comics published the first part of their 8-issue series, DEATH OF THE NEW GODS which was written and illustrated by Jim Starling. In this 8-issue event Starling put most of Kirby's classic characters to rest by killing them off. Characters like Mister Miracle, Orion and Big Barda (who died in a kitchen, of all places) met their doom at the hands of of an agent of the Source. You don't really need to know who killed them, just know that they died. The story ended in Final Crisis with the death of Darkseid. It has been several years since the death of the New Gods, but the reboot of the DCU gave the publisher the opportunity to bring many of these characters back to the forefront of comics -- and that's precisely what I think they are doing.

    JUSTICE LEAGUE #4
    JUSTICE LEAGUE #4

    The first appearance of a New God came in DC's JUSTICE LEAGUE series written by Geoff Johns. The series' first issue launched five years in the past, where the league is fighting against Darkseid and his army of Parademons. In it, they fight together to defeat the evil ruler of Apokolips -- one of Kirby's New Gods. This was the only appearance of any New God in the New DC Universe until the first issue of EARTH 2 by James Robinson, released earlier this summer. The series launched with an ultimate battle between Steppenwolf (a member of Darkseid's elite, leader of the military on Apokolips) and ended with Steppenwolf's massacre of The Trinity (Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman). By launching the book with this scene, Robinson created an interesting parallel between the two worlds and opened up the possibility of the integration of Kirby's Fourth World New Gods into both Earth 1 and Earth 2. Both books launched five years in the past and featured members of the Justice League fighting off a world attack from Apokolips and Darkseid. Was it a coincidence that both Earths were fighting the same adversary at the same time?

    EARTH 2 #1
    EARTH 2 #1

    Fast forward to the second issue of EARTH 2 when Jay Garrick is given the gift of speed from the God Mercury, who in the previous issue had fought against Darkseid alongside Wonder Woman. For those of you that are familiar with Roman Mythology, you might recall Mercury is also the Greek God Hermes, a character that you might recognize in playing a vital role in the pages of WONDER WOMAN. Clearly, there are two versions of this God, as well, because the Earth 2 Mercury dies while Earth 1 Hermes is still alive, kicking and causing trouble. The fact that the character exists in both universes, however, is another interesting parallel.

    EARTH 2
    EARTH 2

    Since the end of the first arc in JUSTICE LEAGUE, we have not seen any New Gods -- that is until just this past week. WONDER WOMAN #12 was not only a great issue because it featured a fantastic story and beautiful art by Cliff Chiang, it also featured the first appearance of one very important character to the New Gods: Orion. On the final page of the issue we see a hand rise up out of the snow, and the silhouette of what appears to be Orion strapped to the Astro-Harness. Now, it's not just this image that is very interesting, it's the text on this page that is rather striking as well.

    "Perhaps the fall of Olympus." That, right there, is pretty telling. The Olympians are Gods and if you've been reading WONDER WOMAN, you know that they are falling. In Jack Kirby's NEW GODS, he explains that the "Old Gods" would die and give way to the "New Gods." Does this mean we just witnessed the birth of Orion, a "New God?" And does this mean the New Gods will replace the Old, Olympian Gods? And what does that mean for Wonder Woman's history? Does it mean that DC is toying with the idea of changing the origins of the New Gods?

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    WONDER WOMAN #12

    Now this opens up a whole heck of a lot of questions! In the regular DC Universe it has been five years since the appearance of a New God, according to the first fight we witnessed in JUSTICE LEAGUE. Now we see the appearance of Orion, and on the previous page, an omen of bad things to come.

    Will the New Gods be the bridge between the next cross-over event in the DC Universe? Hints can be seen in both Earth 1 JUSTICE LEAGUE and EARTH 2. What do you think? Do you think this might be the next step for the DCU, or do you think I'm reaching? Would you like to see more of the New Gods appear in the DC Universe?

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    #1  Edited By TheWitchingHour

    D.C. wisely holding back on the onslaught of Cross Overs. I prefer that to having another one come out every week.

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    Sounds pretty cool to meld it via the New Gods.

    But I still hate Darkseid's re-design.

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    #3  Edited By The_Soverighn

    DC SEEM TO KNOW WHAT THERE DOING

    Holding off big cross-overs

    and my friend says Avengers vs X-Men Will Be Better Than Trinity War

    What You Think.

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    #4  Edited By The_Soverighn

    @TheWitchingHour said:

    D.C. wisely holding back on the onslaught of Cross Overs. I prefer that to having another one come out every week.

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    #5  Edited By notarandomguy

    I would love to see something like that!! I loved most of the New Gods but frankly... I think its too soon to develop any kind of connection between both Earths, it just sounds a bit... rushed!! cause we got some holes in the continuity in the normal DCnU and in Earth 2 practically things are just getting started... it just doesn't seem right, at least for now

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    #6  Edited By noj

    Im pretty sure that the meetings of Earth Prime and Earth 2 will have something to do with the New Gods but that will probably be DC's second big event after Trinity War, or it will be a smaller event that only really effects Earth Two and Justice League related books.. With the direction Trinity War looks like its heading I just cant see having the New Gods in that story.

    I also remember someone at DC explaining that there is only one version of Darkseid (and i assume by extension the rest of the New Gods) in the multiverse so that is a very interesting little factoid.

    By the way the main DC earth is called either Prime Earth or Earth Prime, not Earth 1.

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    #7  Edited By wessaari

    @notarandomguy: 100% agreed

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    #8  Edited By The_Soverighn

    I AGREE MORE NEW GODS

    Like My Top Five

    • Metron
    • Orion
    • Kalibak
    • Power Boy
    • Taikon
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    #9  Edited By The_Soverighn

    @notarandomguy:Did You Read http://www.comicvine.com/dc-comics-the-new-52-fcbd-special-edition-/37-334480/

    It Tries To Bridge The Gaps

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    #10  Edited By Or35ti

    DC is doing an excellent job in not rushing all of their crossovers like Marvel, resulting in meaningless struggle and death for our favorite characters. I can't wait for this crossover cos I know with this setup and epic scope just how damn good it will be! :)

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    #11  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

    I thought it was kinda obvious there was going to be an eventual crossover when both Earth One and Earth Two were being simultaneously attacked by Apokolips. 

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    #12  Edited By JonesDeini

    I'm interested to see where this goes in Wonder Woman/Earth-2

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    #13  Edited By Gambit1024

    Hell yes. Bring on Orion, Mr. Miracle, and Big Barda.

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    #14  Edited By saoakden

    This sounds like an interesting idea. I need to catch up on Wonder Woman and look into Earth 2. I do wonder if Darkseid tried to make any attacks after the beating from the first story arc. & Orion coming back. Things are going to heat up.

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    #15  Edited By Twentyfive

    Awesome!!

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    #16  Edited By Kervan21

    I say that DC needs to keep the crossovers to a minimum. I get it's how the business functions, but all I'm interested in reading are Batman stories with Batman kicking ass in Gotham, Superman fighting his rogues in Metropolis, and so on. I'm personally much more interested in their own self-contained stories rather than a company-wide crossover. If a crossover event is contained to only a few select titles, ok. But I don't want to have to buy all those issues of a book I don't collect just to follow the story (I was enjoying TEEN TITANS until "The Culling" crossover. That one annoyed me. I'm really glad that story is done, as I'd rather just read straightforward stories about the team trying to figure out how to work with each other). We'll see, but I really hope that whatever next big event that's coming, it at least better be organic rather than forced upon all the writers. I'd much rather let Scott Snyder keep telling his Batman story without concern about some Trinity War happening somewhere.

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    #17  Edited By elayem98

    @notarandomguy said:

    I think its too soon to develop any kind of connection between both Earths, it just sounds a bit... rushed!! cause we got some holes in the continuity in the normal DCnU and in Earth 2 practically things are just getting started... it just doesn't seem right, at least for now

    @TheWitchingHour said:

    D.C. wisely holding back on the onslaught of Cross Overs. I prefer that to having another one come out every week.

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    #18  Edited By DarthShap

    There is definitely going to be a JLA/JSA crossover in the future and it will probably involve Apokolips and perhaps even New Genesis. However, I do not thing it is going to be a big event.

    I am a huge fan of Kirby's Fourth World and I think DC has got it all wrong in the reboot. It is completely unrecognizable, especially Darkseid. To be fair, we do not know much about it but that is part of the problem. They have turned Apokolips into your random alien invasion army.

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    #19  Edited By jwalser3

    @The_Soverighn:I like AVX IMO but I think trinity war will be amazing.

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    #20  Edited By Icon

    I'm not sure but I'd love to see the New Gods soon.

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    #21  Edited By Darkmount1

    No more events. PLEASE.

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    #22  Edited By Phantim555

    Sounds good! I wonder what Pandora's role in all this will be and what about the Trinity War? Maybe thats connected as well. Soooo many questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    #23  Edited By Miss_Garrick

    @Darkmount1 said:

    No more events. PLEASE.

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    Seconded!!

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    #24  Edited By modunhanul

    They are bringing New Gods again? YES!

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    #25  Edited By Miss_Garrick

    I want Mister Miracle and Big Barda back! They were awesome and they used to be one of the longest lasting married couples in comics!

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    #26  Edited By Dark_Vengeance_

    DC. whatever you do I approve.

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    #27  Edited By Eternal19

    i hate events. it just makes me have to spend more money

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    #28  Edited By sweetesttoaster

    There's an interview that Brian Azzarello did with Newsarama. He said the last scene doesn't lead to an event. It's just Orion guest starring in Wonder Woman and that it might lead to more of the New Gods.

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    #29  Edited By Jekylhyde14

    Where did my post go???

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    #30  Edited By _Black

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    #31  Edited By InnerVenom123

    Wait, DC's been holding off on the big crossovers?

    Um.

    Night of the Owls? The upcoming Death of the Family?

    Not to say they're bad. But I'm just pointing this out: DC hasn't been holding back on that.

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    #32  Edited By Darkseidconquers

    Seeing Darkseid again in the not to distant future would be great.

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    #33  Edited By Grey56

    @TheWitchingHour: Agreed, sir.

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    Seems that this does mean the return of the New Gods! Of course, this seems from what you suggest that the New Gods will have been born from the ashes of the Olympians, whereas in the old interpretation of Jack Kirby, the Old Gods were essentially the Aesir, so another change that comes to New 52. All I know, is that last bit of panels with what seems to be Orion's birth, that I'm definitely ready for the New Gods to be back at least after four long years. Bring on the reestablishment of the Fourth World...I'm ready!

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    #35  Edited By Jekylhyde14

    Pfff... fine, I'll just post what I said all over again.

    Good job summarizing all the new 52 New Gods appearances Babs!

    They might get overused in the DC Universe, but I don't really mind. I love the New Gods. Jack Kirby's Fourth World is one of the true masterpieces of the superhero genre. Some even claim that George Lucas took ideas from it to create the Star Wars universe. Some of the best DC Universe stories since have used the New Gods: Legends, Giffen/DeMatteis' Justice League, and Morrison's JLA and Final Crisis.

    Definitely keep an eye on the pages of Wonder Woman. The New Gods were created in the old DC Universe after the old gods destroyed themselves in a terrible war. It looks like a war might be brewing in Wonder Woman over Zola's baby and Zeus' thrown. Will Olympus have to make way for New Genesis?

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    #36  Edited By KingofMadCows

    I just hope they fix Darkseid. The way that he was introduced as some savage warlord who went around smashing things was so disappointing.

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    #37  Edited By CitizenJP

    Yes plz.

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    #38  Edited By sethysquare

    I like that Superman used to go up against the new gods but now Wonder Woman is up against them. It shows that they're trying to elevate diana to the status of kal which it should be. They're the trinity afterall.

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    #39  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
    @InnerVenom123:  
     

    Wait, DC's been holding off on the big crossovers?

    Um.

    Night of the Owls? The upcoming Death of the Family?

    Not to say they're bad. But I'm just pointing this out: DC hasn't been holding back on that.


    Do those really count though? They were only involving the Bat Family books, and even then, you didn't have to read ALL the Bat books for it, just Batman and Nightwing, i'd call those self contained events if anything. 

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    #40  Edited By sethysquare

    @The Stegman said:

    @InnerVenom123:


    Wait, DC's been holding off on the big crossovers?

    Um.

    Night of the Owls? The upcoming Death of the Family?

    Not to say they're bad. But I'm just pointing this out: DC hasn't been holding back on that.


    Do those really count though? They were only involving the Bat Family books, and even then, you didn't have to read ALL the Bat books for it, just Batman and Nightwing, i'd call those self contained events if anything.

    yeah. theres a difference between crossovers and events.

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    #41  Edited By sethysquare

    @Darkmount1: why not? we havent had an event for a year already.

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    #42  Edited By DonFelipe

    I really prefer story arcs and events that take place in a limited amount of comic books and issues only. The more books and writers are involved (in a crossover) the more difficult it is to keep a certain standard throughout all single issues (of that crossover).

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    #43  Edited By noj

    @InnerVenom123: those arent really events per say. They are more small self contained story crossovers. An event is something like AvX or Fear Itself which spans around 1/2 a year and affects pretty much the entire universe. The last event DC had was Flashpoint which was around a year ago

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    #44  Edited By FanofUltraman

    I'm waiting for the third Earth.

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    #45  Edited By junkmasterzero

    Did anyone else notice the reference to New Genesis / Apokolips in Superman 7 a couple of months back?

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    #46  Edited By Mr_Wayne69

    If this is an event this is the event that should have brought the Justice League together. That first arc was kinda lame, maybe not the threat. Possibly execution and writing. At any rate it was very cool to see the New Gods come back in a Wonder Woman book no less.

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    #47  Edited By Arkhamc1tizen

    dosent this mean that final crisis never happened if Orion never died

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    #48  Edited By secondfallen616

    Man....thats is getting me pumped for whats to unfold. We get New "New Gods", but, who's going to be the New Kirby? Didn't Kirby come up with the whole concept when comics were in a reboot of sorts? Thats some big old Dr.Scholls to fill....

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    #49  Edited By Killemall

    New gods, we need Kanto :p

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    #50  Edited By lorex

    I am all for the return of the New Gods. I could do without a massive company wide crossover though. While I know it is selling strongly I cannot stand the massive Avengers vs X-Men crossover. But by the same token I really did not like Blackest Knight either. There are way too many titles whos regular characters get puched asside so the crossovers main characters get the spotlight. As a sales tool the crossover has becomee a staple of the major players quest to increase sales and is not likely to go anywhere anytime soon.

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