Personally, I think Beck's tech and skill + Berkhart's edge on new types of technology + Klum's telekinetic one shot powers fused into a single composite Mysterio just has sooo much to deal with people with.

Personally, he could give even High Tiers like Hal Jordan a good fight, and guys like Hercules and Wonder Man? They wouldn't stand a chance. Mysterio is one of the best anti-tank characters a person can pick, and hopefully people start to understand that.

Hell, add his continuity warping powers from that X-Men- First Class series, and you have literally a god that can control reality itself, who could create any character he wished, even if they didn't appear in canon. Mysterio can literally violate the editors intentions and make his own reality.

Anyone else agree?

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Maybe.

No. He's above high tiers.

no

If high-tiers need proportional durability, no. If not, maybe with that TK and gear combined.

Eh more of a high end mid tier Really. His durability is not good at all. Nor is his strength.. people like Thor are far more powerful than him. But he'd give a good fight to many because of his abilities... People nlike Hulk Norrin, Thor, Sentry etc are all too much for him. Iron Man, Carol maybe closer to that range

I mean, his TK powers basically make him able to easily beat most Mid tiers by himself.

And with his new feats with the symbote, maybe there could be more to prove that point.

very true tbh

Him beating people like Hal, Thor, Norrin, or Sentry? Absolutely not.

High tiers, maybe. But Herald level with versatility? No way hombre.

@jmarshmallow: Herald level is obviously above his payload, lol.

I assure you, I don't wank him that much.

@diarrhearegatta: Hal is a Herald tier, you said he could give him a good fight.

I'd heartily disagree.

@jmarshmallow: Nah his TK powers are a hard counter to anyone with a human physiology- it's not TP either so his willpower or telepathic auto shields wouldn't do anything.

Without the TK powers, yeah, Hal would win with little trouble unless he had a significant amount of prep and resources.

@diarrhearegatta: Please show the most powerful enemy he's actually taken down with TK.

@jmarshmallow: It's only been used on street level characters (obviously, it's not like he's battling high mid tiers and above in his stories, let's be honest)

but I don't seriously see how Hal wouldn't be effected- it's hax, it works by manipulating the electrical flow in the brain in a way to make them do things (like force Spider-Man to stab himself with a knife, making him and Daredevil fight, etc) so it's not like he has any defences against it that I can think of at the moment.

He's a glass cannon.

Mysterio one-shots Odin, solos the Endless and scarres Azathoth with his outerversal drones and omnipotent-plus tier illusions.

Mysterio already busts reality and illusionstomps everything in his MCU version, for what should he need to be composite XD?

@diarrhearegatta: :p

Looking at his power set

He should be a Dr strange villain if he was written properly by the writers

@supermanthor: I agree, having a chance of pace for him by giving him someone like Strange would be interesting.

@andromeda101: Yeah, I can totally see something like that happening actually.

Obviously Beck did have the power of Cyttorak for a short while when he had the Crimson Brand of Cyttorak already, so the idea of him being a avatar of a powerful entity isn't so far off.....

@diarrhearegatta: The Ring has granted protection against things far more potent and far more powerful than Mysterio's hax.

If Mysterio has never successfully used it against a being on his tier, it's unfair to assume he can.

It's a bigger jump to say that Mysterio can take out a guy who has withstood a nuke casually and dealt with telepaths far more powerful than Mysterio than it is to say that the Ring grants protection against pretty much every form of TP, which is what that is at the end of the day.

Mysterio solos fiction, non fiction and in between.