Your terrible logic misrepresents the "conspiracy theorists" logic.

The Fantastic Four doesn't exist in this new Marvel U. It doesn't matter where the individuals go - THE TEAM DOES NOT EXIST. I hope you can grasp that. Possibly the same thing for the X-Men, though I'd at least hope they get the rumored kicked-off-Earth thing happening and just have independent space adventures.

@g_man: Doctor Doom?

That will be horribile, the X-men should stay on earth and have adventur alosinde the other heroes!

Too be honest um i'm not really excited for this, but I will keep an open mind and see what happens.

Hesitant at first but the second release makes me think the older characters are just current characters finally aging as they should and we will still have stories and books to follow for them.

They will probably cater to both sides new and old fans alike and get the new people to like the older characters and vice versa over time.

Old Logan, Married Peter Quinn and Parker, Old Steve is a natural progression I like it. Cant save the world and stay young forever.

Yes!

Likes: Citizen V, Doctor Strange's axe, X-23 as Wolverine, Doctor Spectrum's return, Daredevil's new costume, Hyperion

Dislikes: The Thing still looks stupid

I like DD and Wolverine for sure but I hope Old Man Logan dies or something (just cause I feel like we only need one wolverine and that X-23 deserves time to shine by herself, not that I hate Logan or anything). I feel like a lot of these changes are really cool, but it seems like as changed as the universe has become I'm not sure we're gonna get to see the effects played out like you would want especially with so many at one time. Also I think that Iron Man is the same person cause I'm pretty sure it's the same image.

The Wolvie costume fits perfectly on her.

Honestly, I thought the new hero in the upper left was Spider Woman. Not hard to connect them, yellow, red and an hourglass figure. We've seen worst costume revamps.

I'm excited for some of these changes like Ben on the Gotg and Old Man Logan. I an also quite skeptical on a lot of the other things including Strange. A sorcerer with a battle axe, I don't know.

Oh, I'm right here! Can you see me? Sorry, I didn't think I'd have to defend myself from apologists.

So I'm assuming you think this promo art disproves the 'theories' of Marvel denigrating the F4 and X-Men? If so, could you please explain...

All I see is Marvel liquidating the F4 and integrating them into other properties(Thing joining Guardians), and replacing a hugely popular X-Man(that they killed off) with lesser versions.

Wolverine looks ridiculous in the costume as well, the diference is that we're already used to him looking like that (Actually, the costume IS ridiculous),

Yeah, it seems like all of the Fox rumors were true because it's looking more and more likely we won't have a Fantastic Four book.

I'm not a fan of replacement characters, so probably less books I will buy, but if you are excited of these more power to you. Hopefully you enjoy your books.

My boy Citizen V is back!

In fact there are a lot of characters from the two teasers that I am excited about returning.

@ultimatepower6: I don't think it's that mind boggling lol, look how often Avengers and JL change rosters.

@g_man: Idk if anyone had said it yet but that person in the upper left is Doctor Spectrum from Earth-4290001 she was actually in Hickman's New Avengers. Pretty much she is just a marvel version of Green Lantern.

I like how DD still has two D's on his chest even though Daredevil is one word.

@thunderingthorfan: Wow. Dude you know Thor is not real right? And that the writers of this fiction we all love so much will bring him back soon enough right?

Yep. I'm done. Marvel can take all it's female pandering and shove it...

Hoping that this new Daredevil look does not mean he's possessed by some ancient demon spirit again (Andy Diggle - that was awful). I always thought Laura looked better in the brown and yellow Wolverine style costume. I actually like that Thing is going into GotG, he does have a very alien look and could probably survive different environments without a space suit. Still curious to see who Iron Man is going to be. I just cannot see it being Tony.

I'm overall excited about this. I like Daredevil's new look and X23 looks sick as well as Thing in the GOTG suit.

Now let's see some villains

@g_man: I might have gone with a variation of the Black and Gray X-Force uniform, but this does work, too.

@teerack said:

@g_man said:

@princenamor said:

Who is that in the hoodie?

Maybe it's Deadpool? Probably not but looks about as handsome as Wade.

I think it's Doom, OR It's the "big change to the hulk" they mentioned before.

Good call, this could be the "big change" for the Hulk.

Just Fox haters? Can the "Marvel hates mutants & FF!" people shut up to?

Too many inhumans and too few x-men;also not to disrespect Laura as Wolverine but I want the original Logan back or no Logan at all, I dont like a somehow aged Logan that denies the story of his death nor an alternate version that has no relation to the others characters

Looks awesome

Why would this promo shut them up? If anything, it just strengthens their theories.

X-23 will be Wolverine? Well, she is short one blade.

@g_man said:

@princenamor said:

Who is that in the hoodie?

Maybe it's Deadpool? Probably not but looks about as handsome as Wade.

Calling it: it's Luther Strode.

"But President Neutral, Luther Strode isn't-"

IT'S LUTHER STRODE.

Dude in the upper right looks like a more battle-hardened Doctor Strange, and the guy on fire is Dante a.k.a. Inferno. Daredevil's rocking the Shadowlands look, I'm going to guess that the new look Iron Man's showing off is either due to his coming to his senses, or it's Arno Stark, Tony's brother. I'm not saying, "OH SNAP IT'S PEPPER", because I don't think Pepper would take over the Iron Man role. She's already gone by Rescue instead of just throwing herself out there as a distaff counterpart, so that kinda supports my theory.

I've always liked Hyperion, so I'm digging that; haven't been liking Rocket recently, but whatever; the Thing throwing in with the Guardians? Interesting, and it makes sense, so that should be a nice read. Citizen V? I kind of dropped off with him, but that's as good a reason as any to throw him back in. My question is, why is it that the obvious Firestorm distaff counterpart that fought against the Illuminati and (seemingly) died is just there? Marvel treats their stories the same way my grandma treats me when it comes to her baking: whenever I try to sneak a cookie before it's done, they hit you with the spoon and tell you "don't you trouble dem cookies till they done, boy".

While it may not be the Logan we wanted, but it's good to have Old Man Logan here...And X-23 looks pretty spiffy in that costume which is a good way to keep the Wolverine legacy alive.

Is she? ;)

How so? There's the Thing, Logan, and X-23. Not to mention Johnny appearing in Inhumans.

I actually agree. But assuming Marvel will just bastardize them that way, I'd prefer they be in their own unofficial U.

@batman404 said:

@teerack said:

@g_man said:

@princenamor said:

Who is that in the hoodie?

Maybe it's Deadpool? Probably not but looks about as handsome as Wade.

I think it's Doom, OR It's the "big change to the hulk" they mentioned before.

Good call, this could be the "big change" for the Hulk.

Or it could be Karnak.

X-23 has a her third blades in her feet.

I really doubt that's Doom in the hoodie. Facial tats, wrapped fists, no armor an the stance is that of a fighter. My money is on him being Karnak.

Ok.....umm, there will probably be another teaser......but I looked at this one again and all I saw were two X-men characters that are technically the same. Tbh I'm loving X-23 as wolverine but I just need to see more mutants/x-men. If there is another teaser there will probably be more x-members and mutants on there. Hopefully. But moving on I'm sort of liking what I see so far.

@donmeca2020: it can't be Pepper since in the FCBD Avengers issue Iron Man was talking like he/she was there when the Avengers first formed

Yeah we wouldn't want icky girls to read these books too!

Not a fan of this yet, I got to read a couple of these issue before I fully judge the All New All Different Marvel Now.

Where did you hear Johnny is dating Medusa? I believe you are mistaken, but he and Silk (Cindy) went on a date of sorts, who knows if they are together. But really, where did you hear Johnny and Medusa are together? I know Johnny is going to be part of the team in the "Inhuman" relaunch but I don't think it's because of Medusa.

judging the shape of the body or maybe thats the way they intend to draw Iron man now, it looks more female then male....

Is the fire guy Johnny Storm or the new Inhuman Dante/Inferno? I hope Dante is still a big part of "Inhuman" he is a character that deserves more "screen time." Last I saw he regrew an arm that was charcoal-like, and I think it's cool to see his fire powers actually burn him (well not cool but a unique twist on a familiar power set).

You had me at Citizen V.

DD's new costume is amazing!

@donmeca2020: Considering how all female versions of the suit have historically looked, no. Marvel's not that subtle. Look at the recent Superior Iron Man cover to see my point.

Anyway, I'm leaning to past AI Tony. In the Avengers rolecall thingie they did for the teaser, Iron Man's description was "The new armor's a portable erector set, that will allow him to create anything he can conceive." Either it'll be a kind of Green Lantern rip-off, or the suit will alter it's shape.

@punyparker: Maybe if you made an effort to elaborate on why you think its a mess we would have reason too hate on you.

Isnt that the Spectrum?? The green lantern from that other universe namor killed?

Daredevil Still The Same As Ever :)