MCU Hulk has lost fights in three of his movie showings straight now. He got beat by Tony in Avengers 2, Beat By Thor in Ragnarok and Humiliated by Thanos in IW.
Has MCU Hulk been made a jobber?
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MCU Hulk has lost fights in three of his movie showings straight now. He got beat by Tony in Avengers 2, Beat By Thor in Ragnarok and Humiliated by Thanos in IW.
Has MCU Hulk been made a jobber?
It was nice to see Banner confirm that Hulkbuster smacked the crap out of him, people actually tried to deny that before. Anyway, I'm sure he'll get his time to shine in Avengers 4.
@tonymartial: maybe all these losses will add up and make him so angry that he becomes WWH ?
The Hulkbuster beat him because he calmed down and sucker punched, Thor didn’t actually have him ‘beat’ either (although he was definitely on the losing end).
It’s mainly the Thanos thing that has got people riled up about him being weaker. I mean it’s not like Hulk was smacking Thor sideways back in Avengers, not like he beat Thor pretty handily before his ‘god mode’ amp and not like he tanked a skyscraper falling on him or oneshotted a space whale, nor did he make Ultron look like a punk twice...
People look at Hulk getting stomped as if it puts him below people like Iron Man now. Thor lost as well and Hulks own loss was used to make Thanos look like a beast - this is ignoring the fact that NO ONE took the beating that Hulk did. Everyone jumped around and evaded him, NO ONE just got straight up hammered by Thanos using his physicals and skill to the fullest OTHER than hulk.
@thedailybagel: banner himself admitted the Hulkbuster heat the crap out of him
@blitzsikes: How would he know? Only thing he'd remember is changing and being back to normal. Someone would just say "You fought Tony in the Hulk buster" and he'd know he lost.
He didn't even know he had been Hulk for TWO YEAR'S!!
@guardiandevil83: so you would know more than a character in the movie specifically saying he got his butt kicked? Are you really denying the writing of the movie with the directors and writer's own intenetion? Wtf
@thedailybagel: I thought Hulk is supposed to be Thor like powerhouse like he is in the comics but in MCU its not even funny anymore they are not doing justice to Hulk at all making him loose to Thor without Mjolnir, then not doing anything worth in IW and Thor gets all the light. Unlike the comics MCU Hulk vs Thor is pretty one sided.
@empressofdread: I always wondered why Hulk hasn't even got his own movie since the first iron man. Maybe his lack of popularity with the general public makes him and easy target for jobbing
Truly the face of a calm man:
Hulk was about to fight the military before Iron Man punched him, so he was angry and ready to fight. It also makes a lot of sense that the Hulk was angry since the military hunted him for years before he became an Avenger. A better excuse would be that Iron man cheap shotted him but what's on screen doesn't back up that Hulk was calm (He was calm when he saw the civilians but that only lasted a moment).
@blitzsikes: Its BS they can make a good movie out of Black Panther and GOTG but Not with Hulk. Hulk is more popular, you know MCU movies work and they get good ratings regardless of how good they actually are, its just seems to work. So why no make a Hulk movie now? I do not know really. I am waiting for Hulk movies I want one now but it does seem in the prospects.
@blitzsikes: It has nothing to do with the lack of populatity since he is definitely one of Marvel's most popular character barring Spider-man or the X-men. Its mostly a rights issue. Marvel studios is sharing them with Universal and word has it that they arent too pleased about it. Hence his treatment.
@brucerogers: marvel's most popular yes but could it be that he's not popular with casual fans? Has that ever been said?
I know he has vast popularity in comics but maybe it doesn't transfer to popularity outside?
He was used to show how badass Thanos is and it was awesome. I don't mind Hulk not being as the ridiculous powerhouse he is in the comics. Thor got some awesome time to shine and that was awesome too. Not everyone can be the main man every time but Hulk is definitely nerfed more than most from the comics.... and there's nothing really wrong with that, it lets other characters shine more as a result.
@blitzsikes: That wasnt really my point though...
No. Hulk getting beaten like a red hair stepchild by Thanos in IW doesn't mean he jobber. Thanos has ALWAYS been stronger then the Hulk. Shit the same thing with Thor. Thor is stronger than Hulk in the comics. MCU has them as equal. Well... they were until Thor got Stormbreaker.
@blitzsikes: Everyone else is. The Directors said Thanos is stronger than Hulk, people take issue. (I don't )
Eiteri told Thor he'd take the full blast of a star. People debunk it.
Im just saying Hulk was ripping that thing apart and was giving as good as he got
I didn’t take it as Bruce admitting to losing to the suit. We all saw that fight. It was more like a “ha I have this suit and it is pretty bad ass” statement. Just like when Thor arrived. For all intents and purposes Hulk is 2-0 on screen against Thor, but Bruce talked him up “oh you’re in trouble now”!
I absolutely loved Bruce Banner in this movie. Wish we got to see more of Hulk but Mark did a fantastic job.
@empressofdread: In the comic Hulk is base Thor Powerhouse.
But with Odin force or another amplifier is Thor >>>>> Hulk.
I didn’t take it as Bruce admitting to losing to the suit. We all saw that fight. It was more like a “ha I have this suit and it is pretty bad ass” statement. Just like when Thor arrived. For all intents and purposes Hulk is 2-0 on screen against Thor, but Bruce talked him up “oh you’re in trouble now”!
I absolutely loved Bruce Banner in this movie. Wish we got to see more of Hulk but Mark did a fantastic job.
Dude nearly ever fight Hulk and Thor had ended in a tie. It's not 2-0.
@tanakaclinkenbeard: You must not read the comics, because if you did you'd know that Thor is not stronger than Hulk, not even close nowadays actually since Hulk overpowered both Hercules and Thor at the same time.
In the comics it's the reverse of the movies ironically. In the comics Hulk is an absolute beast while Thor sucks for the most part, while in the movies Thor is awesome while Hulk sucks and has been nerfed ever since Avengers 1.
@brucerogers: marvel's most popular yes but could it be that he's not popular with casual fans? Has that ever been said?
I know he has vast popularity in comics but maybe it doesn't transfer to popularity outside?
Hulk is actually more popular outside the comics than among comic book readers.
Outside the comics he has been the most google searched Avenger, his merchandise is sold more than Thors, IronMans and Captain Americas combined.
He is by far the more popular and recognized character out of any Avenger, the closest in popularity to him is IronMan and that all has to do with how RDJ made him popular.
@blitzsikes: when did he job??
@tanakaclinkenbeard: I’m not sure if you read my post correctly. In the MCU, Hulk has essentially beaten Thor twice. In Avengers 1 and in Ragnarok (Grandmaster’s intervention).
@tanakaclinkenbeard: You must not read the comics, because if you did you'd know that Thor is not stronger than Hulk, not even close nowadays actually since Hulk overpowered both Hercules and Thor at the same time.
In the comics it's the reverse of the movies ironically. In the comics Hulk is an absolute beast while Thor sucks for the most part, while in the movies Thor is awesome while Hulk sucks and has been nerfed ever since Avengers 1.
You must not have read the comics, because in the Comic Thor is clearly stronger than hulk. Immortal hulk is not the base Hulk. If you bring up Immortal hulk, I'll bring up Rune knight Thor and He's still stronger then any hulk.
@devilmaydare: this.
The Hulk is literally a household name. He’s one of Marvel’s top guys. Only people like Spider-Man are more popular.
@tanakaclinkenbeard: I’m not sure if you read my post correctly. In the MCU, Hulk has essentially beaten Thor twice. In Avengers 1 and in Ragnarok (Grandmaster’s intervention).
Pretty sure Avenger 1 was a tie.
@xzone: Hulk is not suppose to be way weaker to the people he is facing outside of Thanos.
In the comics Hulk has never lost to a Hulkbuster, in fact nowadays he 1-shots those things, when it comes to Thor he has beaten Thor more times than not and when Thor fought him without mljonir it was clearly shown Hulk to be superior(although a similar thing happened in Ragnarok and Hulk was about to knock out Thor until he used god mode).
Hulk is absolutely jobbing, he had great moments in Avengers 1, tell me 1 great moment he has had since that film?
@empressofdread: In the comic Hulk is base Thor Powerhouse.
But with Odin force or another amplifier is Thor >>>>> Hulk.
why are we talking about OF Thor I was not talking about it. Also Thor is below WBH.
@tanakaclinkenbeard: You must not read the comics, because if you did you'd know that Thor is not stronger than Hulk, not even close nowadays actually since Hulk overpowered both Hercules and Thor at the same time.
In the comics it's the reverse of the movies ironically. In the comics Hulk is an absolute beast while Thor sucks for the most part, while in the movies Thor is awesome while Hulk sucks and has been nerfed ever since Avengers 1.
You must not have read the comics, because in the Comic Thor is clearly stronger than hulk. Immortal hulk is not the base Hulk. If you bring up Immortal hulk, I'll bring up Rune knight Thor and He's still stronger then any hulk.
LOL. Really then why does Thor have more loses to Hulk than the other way around? Immortal Hulk is normal Hulk where do you get the idea that he isn't? There is no such thing as base Hulk. Rune King Thor is a massively powered up Thor, powered up by outside forces, bringing him up is as irreverent as me bringing up Hulk who had the Infinity Gauntlet at one point and he craps all over Rune King Thor.
You need to read up some comics my dude.
@tonymartial: maybe all these losses will add up and make him so angry that he becomes WWH ?
@devilmaydare: BS. Hulk doesn't have more wins because most of the time they are interrupted before the fight is done. Combine with the Fact that Thor has feats that put him above the Hulk makes it clear he is stronger. I think you need to read up on Thor.
@tanakaclinkenbeard: Pretty sure you're wrong. Hulk was beating thor black and blue before that jet saved his ass...
I don't remember that. I haven't watched the first movie in a long time and after IW I'm not rewatching any of the MCU movies for a while. IW was not bad by the way, it was great. Just... that ending. It left me drained.
@tanakaclinkenbeard: Hulk has 4 wins over Thor in comics, Thor has 2, so tell me how he doesn't have more wins, do you want me to educate you on which wins those are as well? Thor doesn't have feats that put him above Hulk, in fact Thor has failed in direct comparisons between him and Hulk, also what non-amped version of Thor is above World Breaker Hulk?
i think they kinda wanted to show that Thanos was powerfull as hell, but they lowballed hulk terribly in the movie. Was disspointed as hell on how they threated hulk. They should learn from cartoon AA and EMH
@tanakaclinkenbeard: Hulk has 4 wins over Thor in comics, Thor has 2, so tell me how he doesn't have more wins, do you want me to educate you on which wins those are as well? Thor doesn't have feats that put him above Hulk, in fact Thor has failed in direct comparisons between him and Hulk, also what non-amped version of Thor is above World Breaker Hulk?
Maybe you should educate yourself. Any case of Hulk beating Thor is pis because Base Thor is stronger than WWH. Example are when he destroyed a planet. Or when he hit a celestial armor so hard that not only did the armor break but the Shockwaves destroy not only mountains but cities as well,Or when he turn a coutryside to lava. Or when he pulls the midway snake off Earth. What's that you want scan? Well, here you go.
Wrestles the Midgard Serpent off Earth
Can smash planets like pebbles
Hits Beta Ray Bill so hard the planets under him shatters, for reference, The planet
His blows turn the countryside to lava
Do I need to post more? Or is that enough for you?
@tanakaclinkenbeard: Hulk has 4 wins over Thor in comics, Thor has 2, so tell me how he doesn't have more wins, do you want me to educate you on which wins those are as well? Thor doesn't have feats that put him above Hulk, in fact Thor has failed in direct comparisons between him and Hulk, also what non-amped version of Thor is above World Breaker Hulk?
Maybe you should educate yourself. Any case of Hulk beating Thor is pis because Base Thor is stronger than WWH. Example are when he destroyed a planet. Or when he hit a celestial armor so hard that not only did the armor break but the Shockwaves destroy not only mountains but cities as well,Or when he turn a coutryside to lava. Or when he pulls the midway snake off Earth. What's that you want scan? Well, here you go.
Wrestles the Midgard Serpent off Earth
Can smash planets like pebbles
Hits Beta Ray Bill so hard the planets under him shatters, for reference, The planet
His blows turn the countryside to lava
Do I need to post more? Or is that enough for you?
Hahahahahahahahhaahaha. Thor is not stronger than Hulk, let alone WWH. Thor never destroyed a planet. This was already confirmed with Hulk being Earths strongest hero
The shockwaves destroying mountains was done with him when he had the belt of strength on so he didn't do it with his own strength alone, the midgard serpent has been debunked.
Midgard serpent feat has been debunked as the space Thor wrestled the Midgard serpent warped the size of Midgard serpent and made it only as big as the building.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/discuss-and-debunk-a-feat-with-a-viner-721916/?page=8
Hulk held the weight of a star on his back
Those are statements not feats, Thor has never smashed any planet and by statements Hulk can easily topple planets
Had the belt of strength as i explained above, also Hulk has a way more impressive feat than that in his clash with Ironclad he caused untold destruction across infinite amount of worlds
That's not a planet, that's a planetoid you can see how small it is, it's only the size of a mountain lol.
Turns a countryside to lava so? Hulks blows have shaken the entire planet and caused earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanos, sink holes, chasms, to appear, ice bergs to collapse, etc...
Now let me give you a few direct comparissons between the 2
Hulk beats Onslaughts physical form when Thor and the rest of the Earths heroes failed to even scratch him
Hulk one-shots his way through a bunker that Thor couldn't even get through
and now Hulk
Thor gets floored by a blast from an Elder of the Universe while Hulk is able to tank it
Hulk breaks a barrier from Umar with his thunderclap that Thor couldnt
There are many more examples if you wish me to go on? I mean i will gladly slap you around some more and btw this is what a planet bust looks like
not that small planetoid nonsense you have with Thor and BRB.
@devilmaydare: he wasn't scared of fenris or surtur, that's pretty good. He also wasn't scared of fighting thanos at first
@the_living_tribunal_24: In an interview Ruffalo gave after the IW movie, he still said the only thing Hulk is scared of is Banner and Banner hates the Hulk so it's gonna result in a clash between them in the next movie
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/26/avengers-infinity-war-mark-ruffalo-hulk-banner-showdown/
"Let me just say this to you; the only person or thing in the universe that Hulk is afraid of is Banner. And the only one who Banner probably dislikes more than anything else is Hulk. And they're headed for a showdown."
@devilmaydare: arrange this list in terms of power for me please.
Blue marvel
Silver surfer
Hyperion
Sentry
Gladiator
Hulk
Thor
@devilmaydare: so could you not deduce that hulk thought he was the strongest and when he got wrecked by thanos, that loss shattered his ego??
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