Explaining MCU Thor's Lightning Cloak

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#1 Edited by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio
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I've seen quite a bit of debate on how powerful Thor's cloak is, how it works, and if it even exists. Now, I'm going to explain the cloak in detail

How The Cloak Works:

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First of all, the cloak is a force of it's own, and can defend Thor by itself

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Seen here. The cloak pushes these Asgardian soliders away from Thor. Simply put, you can't get to Thor without overpowering his cloak

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Which is even more powerful with Stormbreaker

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Thor can also give weapons such as Stormbreaker their own cloak as seen here

Destructive Power:

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Here the cloak destroys this outrider ship, casually

This is often denied. People will say that Thor's cloak wasn't responsible for the destruction of these ships, but I have further evidence beyond the obvious

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Here you can see that Thor's cloak is clearly activated (Notice the outriders are killed by the cloak as Thor flies by)

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And as we can see, when the cloak is activated there is lightning all around Thor, so Thor flying through a ship would obviously cause the lightning to flow through it

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Just like we see when Thor flies through the ship

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The same thing happened when Thor destroyed one of these massive machines in Wakanda

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This is very impressive considering these ships tanked re-entry, hitting the ground at re-entry speeds, and the full force of the Wakandan Air-force

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It's also important to note that even if the lightning did not destroy the ships entirely, it is undeniable that the lightning did break through the sides of the ship which tanked Re-entry, so we know for a fact that this cloak is>Re-entry level

Healing Factor:

This cloak also has a healing factor. Simply put, Thor was hurt pretty badly by Hela, but once he activated his cloak he was fine

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Conclusion:

To even tag Thor, you must get through a nearly ten foot radius of lightning. That lightning is casually>re-entry level, but even if Thor is hit, he has a healing factor that can heal him from stabs in seconds

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#2 Posted by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by phisigmatau (1527 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone:
awesome! good read thnx!

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#4 Posted by Amcu (16213 posts) - - Show Bio

Nothing I can disagree with here. Lightning cloak is one of the many things that makes Thor so hard to defeat.

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#5 Posted by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Edited by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio

@amcu said:

Nothing I can disagree with here. Lightning cloak is one of the many things that makes Thor so hard to defeat.

Thanks. I realize you did discuss this in your respect thread, but I decided to explain it a little further. Hope you don't mind

Edit: Btw, I noticed something interesting that was extremely obvious, but I missed. Even if Thor's cloak didn't destroy the ships, as some people will claim, the lightning still visibly breaks through the side of the ship, proving it is at least re-entry level lightning

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#7 Posted by Chazzer (648 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: If Flash had a lightning cloak as powerful as Thor's, he could have zapped Clark off of him.

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#8 Edited by IPvMan (343 posts) - - Show Bio

@chazzer: He 100% could not have just zapped Clark off of him. That is absurb. He's tanked far greater than Thor can output and flown through it. Meanwhile Thor would be about as still as that statue the whole time, not dodging punches like Flash. So I'd love to see Thor eat five Flash level speed punches to the face from Superman.

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#9 Posted by Chazzer (648 posts) - - Show Bio

@ipvman: Cloak does its own thing. As the above gifs have shown. Clark is not faster than lightning, as the above gifs show.

He got pushed back and grimaced by Cyborg's single wrist blast. Very small attack.

He got nailed hard and hurt by the Kryptonian ship blast.

Feel free to show me where he no sells an energy attack.

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#10 Posted by IPvMan (343 posts) - - Show Bio

@chazzer: That gif shows Clark moving damn near as fast as the lightning bolt. Superman is definitely faster than lightning as he has Mach 900 speed feats while lightning's down stroke is 286.

Sure thing.

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I need not remind you he proceeded to fly through and one shot the world engine moments later. So Thor's cloak is not affecting him in the slightest.

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#11 Posted by Chazzer (648 posts) - - Show Bio

@ipvman: How long was he down there gathering his strength to make his approach? He was standing still for a bit.

The bolt reached him well before his arm extended out to punch. Not even close.

Lol, that was his flight speed while moving high in the sky.

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#12 Edited by IPvMan (343 posts) - - Show Bio

@chazzer:

How long was he down there gathering his strength to make his approach? He was standing still for a bit.

The movie explicitly states it will weaken him. It was making the atmosphere like Krypton and therefore sapping his powers. Lois tells him that before he leaves to the Indian Ocean. So he was tanking a beam capable of displacing thousands of tons of ocean water, leveling 27 story buildings in one shot, while weakened. Thor's lighting is little stuff.

The bolt reached him well before his arm extended out to punch. Not even close.

I see his arm and the lightning moving back at almost the same pace. So I guess it's just up to what you're looking at.

Lol, that was his flight speed while moving high in the sky.

Which extends to a blitz which Thor has no chance of reacting to. There's a guidebook somewhere that also states his travel speed is equal to his reactions because he has to be able to zip around buildings. And he has feats for that so...

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#13 Posted by joshua755 (3792 posts) - - Show Bio

@ipvman: a little off topic huh guys lol jk

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#14 Posted by GateOfBabylon (3681 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty cool stuff, never put these together! One of the top MCU Thor fans indeed.

Also, regarding your last statement, I'm guessing based off your own explanation, Thor's lightning cloak is now way larger than a ten-foot radius while boosted my Stormbreaker. Based off the gif it looks like it could be even ten metres.

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#15 Posted by Heatforce (5876 posts) - - Show Bio

Good gif work. In battles does stormbreaker grant instant heal like when he did the star thing? I don't know if he can use it more than once going off Mjolnir, who had a similarish feat at the end of Thor.

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#16 Edited by ourmanuel (10429 posts) - - Show Bio

Ahh lighting cloak.

The ultimate counter to “Thor gets blitzed”

Edit: lol, I don’t know what people are smoking, but his cloak isn’t doing much to Clark.

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#17 Posted by Mrnoital (7967 posts) - - Show Bio

It doesn't look automatic, it only surges off him when he makes a move, lighting coming off his back as he kicks forward, and a lot of lightning flowing through his punches there

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#18 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11547 posts) - - Show Bio

Ahh lighting cloak.

The ultimate counter to “Thor gets blitzed”

Edit: lol, I don’t know what people are smoking, but his cloak isn’t doing much to Clark.

Exactly lol; these people really think some little electric discharge is going to do something to Clark XD

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#19 Posted by DammeFavour (8287 posts) - - Show Bio

All of these is just a reach and considering you don't understand the basics of combustion, pointless. The cloak can't hurt anyone remotely close to hela in durability. The cloak in ragnarok would have the same effect on the ships in IW, it wasn't more powerful, just a bigger radius

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#20 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25704 posts) - - Show Bio

I see an expected yet astonishing amount of headcanon, misinterpretation and reaching to make something of a fan-made term (this "cloak") relevant.

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#21 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (10447 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel said:

Ahh lighting cloak.

The ultimate counter to “Thor gets blitzed”

Edit: lol, I don’t know what people are smoking, but his cloak isn’t doing much to Clark.

Exactly lol; these people really think some little electric discharge is going to do something to Clark XD

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#22 Edited by Dogzee (529 posts) - - Show Bio

^ This. Also cloak didnt destroy those ships. Stupidest thing I ever read. Name one instance Thor's lightning has generated explosions, I'll wait. Even Warmachine made the wheels of death explode with bullets so Thor doing it isn't justification.

He simply hit something within the ship that was explosive. The end.

I disagree on his cloak being it's own sentient being like Doctor Strange's cloak, just a dumb idea lmao. Thor wills it to strike out, you show one instance of some zombies attacking him from behind and now you think the cloak is an entire self operating thing. No he was just simply aware of the threats behind him. Not the first time he's attacked enemies from behind without looking, he did it alot with Mjolnir, like in the opening of Thor Ragnarok when we got the 360 shot of Mjolnir as he fought enemies h2h

Oh an Thor has no healing factor. Hela never crippled him he just fought through the pain before she finally did beat the hell out him and he was injured and left out of breathe and had to resort to calling Surtur. It may be plausible that when he first unlocked his powers fully that he healed like when he forged Stormbreaker and when he got his godhood back in the first movie. But besides that he has no healing in battle. Kurse whooped his ass and he was still bloody and scarred the next day. Ultron also did it to his ass.

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#23 Posted by SupremeGeneration (11389 posts) - - Show Bio

I see a lot of “lmao muh cloak” comments yet, and this is a word that those people themselves used, unsurprisingly there’s a lack of decent counters.

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#24 Posted by Scipio123 (625 posts) - - Show Bio

I find it amusing how people get obsessed with semantic debates over whether the lightning that comes off Thor's body constitutes a "cloak" or not.

Even if you think "cloak" isn't an accurate term (perhaps shield or shroud would be better), it doesn't make its feats any less impressive.

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#25 Edited by MAZAHS117 (12310 posts) - - Show Bio

It looks like the cloak works great for fodder opponents and ships/vehicles and what have you, but I don’t see it as anything opponents with high tier durability can’t handle 🤷‍♂️

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#26 Posted by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by Chazzer (648 posts) - - Show Bio

@mazahs117: That's a fair assessment, however the outrider ship is extremely durable as demonstrated by it high impact landing.

Thor's lightning was able to punch through the hull with seeming ease. It is not unreasonable to believe it can affect strong characters to some extent.

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#28 Posted by Helloman (28525 posts) - - Show Bio

This is good.

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#29 Posted by ourmanuel (10429 posts) - - Show Bio

It looks like the cloak works great for fodder opponents and ships/vehicles and what have you, but I don’t see it as anything opponents with high tier durability can’t handle 🤷‍♂️

Those ships and vehicles weren’t fodder

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#30 Posted by godzilla44 (7172 posts) - - Show Bio

I see an expected yet astonishing amount of headcanon, misinterpretation and reaching to make something of a fan-made term (this "cloak") relevant.

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#31 Posted by Thorthunder98 (6588 posts) - - Show Bio

It's great for taking out fodder and would probably hurt mid-tiers but I don't think it's re-entry level you can't really prove it was his cloak that destroyed the ship or not in IW it could've been lightning from Stormbreaker like we saw him use on Thanos. We do know his lightning can casually destroy re-entry level ships but don't know if it was his lightning cloak or lightning from Stormbreaker.

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#32 Posted by MAZAHS117 (12310 posts) - - Show Bio

@mazahs117 said:

It looks like the cloak works great for fodder opponents and ships/vehicles and what have you, but I don’t see it as anything opponents with high tier durability can’t handle 🤷‍♂️

Those ships and vehicles weren’t fodder

Eh. I still remain unconvinced that the damage done to those ships were entirely because of Thor’s lightning cloak. I’m not pooh-poohing his cloak either, but I think some blow it’s effects out of proportion to fit their own narrative when discussing him. ...S’alls I’m sayin.

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#33 Posted by ourmanuel (10429 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel said:
@mazahs117 said:

It looks like the cloak works great for fodder opponents and ships/vehicles and what have you, but I don’t see it as anything opponents with high tier durability can’t handle 🤷‍♂️

Those ships and vehicles weren’t fodder

Eh. I still remain unconvinced that the damage done to those ships were entirely because of Thor’s lightning cloak. I’m not pooh-poohing his cloak either, but I think some blow it’s effects out of proportion to fit their own narrative when discussing him. ...S’alls I’m sayin.

Yeah, I’m not completely convinced that his cloak caused the damage within the ships.

However There’s a gif floating around somewhere of his lighting latching on to one of the smaller outrider drill shaped ships, and causing explosions on it.

@xzone you’re up.

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#34 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25704 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know why I even bother to mention this, but cannot people see he's wielding the Stormbreaker while tearing through the Outrider ship?

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#35 Posted by deactivated-5c917f846ef0b (1264 posts) - - Show Bio

Who even came up with the term "lightning cloak".

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#36 Posted by TonyMartial (8840 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know why I even bother to mention this, but cannot people see he's wielding the Stormbreaker while tearing through the Outrider ship?

Its a common misconception. His "cloak" never destroyed the ships, its a feat for Stormbreaker.

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#37 Edited by ANTHP2000 (25704 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000 said:

I don't know why I even bother to mention this, but cannot people see he's wielding the Stormbreaker while tearing through the Outrider ship?

Its a common misconception. His "cloak" never destroyed the ships, its a feat for Stormbreaker.

No, it's just a common way to oversell Thor. Almost everything at this point is headcanon and double standards, but this is just the most glaring example I saw here.

Who even came up with the term "lightning cloak".

who knows

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#38 Posted by Chazzer (648 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial: False. You can see the lightning burst through the hull of the ship, just like when he was on the bifrost bridge. Same thing.

The lightning from his body is just as strong, he used it against Hulk in the arena. When Thor was laying on the ground. Hulk went flying back with Thor never actually touching him, it was all lightning from his body.

Lightning cloak is legit.

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#39 Posted by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio

@thorthunder98: We know the lightning from the cloak is re-entry level because it broke through the side of the ship, even if it didn’t destroy the entire thing

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#40 Edited by AvatarReiko (1297 posts) - - Show Bio

@chazzer said:

@ipvman: Clark is not faster than lightning, as the above gifs show.

Prove Thor's cloak is faster than lightning

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#41 Posted by rem (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000 said:

I see an expected yet astonishing amount of headcanon, misinterpretation and reaching to make something of a fan-made term (this "cloak") relevant.

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#42 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4093 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor makes people very very angry on this site.

I can’t wait until Captain Marvel comes out to put these battles to rest. Guys like Damme are going to have to delete their accounts.

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#43 Edited by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (10447 posts) - - Show Bio

He rammed into those ships with Stormbreaker. It's a decent striking force feat, not a lightning cloak feat.

Edit: the ships exploded because of something called combustion, but damaging them with stormbreaker is a great striking force feat.

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#44 Posted by EmpressOfDread (12367 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Outrider ships were destroyed by the lightning Cloak. But its a nice energy attack nonetheless.

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#45 Posted by GateOfBabylon (3681 posts) - - Show Bio

You know how insecure DCEU Supes fanboys are when they bring him into this thread despite nothing being mentioned about him.

It's like they trying really hard to debunk any possible feat for Thor.

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#46 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (7136 posts) - - Show Bio

Cloak really came in handy aginst Thanos

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#48 Posted by ThunderPrince (6923 posts) - - Show Bio

He rammed into those ships with Stormbreaker. It's a decent striking force feat, not a lightning cloak feat.

Edit: the ships exploded because of something called combustion, but damaging them with stormbreaker is a great striking force feat.

Either way, Thor's lightning cloak still managed to blast through the hull of the ship. I believe that is the point that x is trying to make.

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#49 Posted by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio

@thunderprince: Thanks man! And what you said to thebestofthebest is correct. The lightning broke through the side of the ship wether it totally destroyed them or not, so the lightning is without a doubt>Re-entry level

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#50 Posted by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio

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