2.5 out of 22 MCU films are not been led by straight white males and everyone's losing their minds.

With Shang Chi and Black Widow it'll be 4.5 out of 24. WHAT A SJW MADNESS.

@anthp2000: I understood 2 but what is 0.5?

O.T: Define "SJW route". If we mean replacing OG characters with gay, lesbian, Asian, black, and female characters just for the sake of "representation" and shoving it down our throats then yeah, it is. Marvel has no balls to create its own "diversity/representation" character with the mindset that no one is going to buy it unless they have the heroic identity of some A-list superhero. Just take a look at the wicked + the divine it's doing the same thing that Marvel wants but unlike Marvel it's a very successful series because it has its own universe and characters that aren't ruining the legacy of other characters.

@michaelbn: Ant-Man and the Wasp.

@michaelbn: ,.... Eh Marvel & DC are filled with diverse characters that have fallen into obscurity because no one bought into them... So, I can't really blame them for tying characters to another's mantle. The characters who feel hollow in Marvel's representation quest(comic wise) are Jane-Thor(from the little I've read),Miss America Chavez(Always liked this character,but her Solo was awful) & Riri. Oh and Carol...they just can't get her right. Shame because she's actually a cool character. She needs better writers. Sam,Laura & Kamala are fine.

Also...nothing is being shoved down your throat.

I'm still curious as to what line or part in CM promoted women as being better than men.

Lol

Introducing females or other diverse heroes isn't a problem. It's great.

What would be a problem is if they downplay and degrade current male heroes to do it, which is what a lot of feminist-agenda movies tend to do.

We shall see. (Looking at you, Thor 4)

I am sorry! When was Captain Marvel promoting toxic politics. I think you have confused it with Captain America movies which was political

I thought it was believing in one self instead of always trying to earn respect from others. Also how is Kree Patriarchy

The whole movie itself

So what about Winter soldier or Black Widow. Is patriarchy in that too

Second this movie take place during 1960 to 1995 and that time Woman were discriminated because they were woman. A lot has changed in 20 years but things were really different back then. Even today we have a lot of countries were Woman are still discriminated because they are woman

@dc1008: @notcensored:

1. No, the entire concept of the film is introducing Carol to the MCU. I'm still waiting for a single line or scene that implies an anti-male agenda.

2. Even if it did promote a theme against patriarchy (it doesn't, that's just deluded people trying to find reasons to hate on the movie), that wouldn't be wrong. Patriarchy isn't a good thing, last I checked. What would be wrong is promoting females as being the superior sex, which it didn't. And frankly, the world the movie takes place in is the U.S. of the 60s. If you think patriarchy wasn't a thing back then, or that women weren't treated as lesser, you're wrong. Merely addressing this issue in the flashbacks in order to show an empowered character who happens to be female isn't anything more than logical, if not given.

3. The main villain was a female. Another one of the goons was a female. Fury was also there and had a main role. I really just don't understand where you're coming from. I'll still wait for 1 line or 1 scene promoting women as better than men.

Tobey?

the ones who are really going into sjw bs is Star wars

The movie never said anything about "women being better than men." I swear, men are so fragile.

How?

@batvibe12:I'll give 2 reasons off the top of my head though I have more

1. in the now confirmed KOTOR trilogy they are changing the main character (presumably Revan as the protagonist is supposed to be Malak) from his usual self to a black woman and trying to find a female director, not the best mind you just a female one, the more woke the better.

2. they're giving Rian Johnson his own trilogy even though he pretty much ruined Star Wars because he makes "strong woman characters" and supporting other stuff like that because they want to show how SJW or Feminist is there preferred term I believe.

that's all I'm gonna say about Star Wars cause continuing is off topic for the thread

@melkorisbeatmod: Why are using feminist as profile picture?

Ok, so this line is fucking r******d.. It was never about the suit being imperfect the way it was. It was that it would be perfect FOR HER when she used it after it was changed.

Rest, I will not go in on because you are wrong on everything.

OT: Nope, just moron anti-SJW's like Toby here..

@jjonahjamesonjr: honestlyI just wanted a profile pic and liked the Wonder Woman comics at the time but haven't kept up with it recently so yea I'll probably change it soon

She was literally created as a feminist so.its not recent things She is the mother of SJW movement in comics. I would suggest Joker as profile pic

So having a white actress would have been better? I mean, however you look at it, wouldn't have changed anything really considering that they weren't going with her comic appearance..

@jjonahjamesonjr: wasn't saying it was recent was just saying I enjoyed the Wonder Woman comics at the time

Edit: I think I like this pfp better

The only SJW is ANTHP

Thank you!

@anthp2000: America is a patriarchy, so is most first-world countries. People seems to think that patriarchy means something different than:

Men have more power than women in a leadership position. As far as I know, there are way more men in any government in the modern world. Hence, we live in a patriarchy. Patriarchy doesn't mean that women are oppressed like the anti-SJW's seems to think it means..

@byondeon: Patriarchy is not just a neutral term characterizing the system with which a country is going by. You're taking it from a (flawed) technical, literal perspective; however patriarchy is, at its core, directly associated with the dominance of the male sex in society *and* the simultaneous oppression of the female sex. Historically, that's how the term came to exist. It is a negative term.

It has nothing to do with SJWs and anti-SJWs. You seem to be looking at it from a technical perspective, and even then, the english term originates from the greek word "πατριαρχία", which means that the father figure leads. It got into the dictionary back in the 20th century to characterize a society where women had virtually no rights and were treated as lesser. The first part of the word (πατήρ/pater) literally means father, and it referred to when the dominant figure in a household was the husband, with the wife strictly obeying, and this evolved into a larger scale, and we have come to talk about an entire city instead of just a household. The technical definition of any word can be seen in the most accurate way when you look at the source, and the source completely suggests gender inequality.

So yeah, it most certainly, also, means the oppression of women, and no, we don't live in patriarchy in most first world countries - not to any dangerous degree anyway.

Any movie who got gay/lesbian is trying to force it as something normal.

like IT chapter two.

they had this gay couple at the beginning but them being gay was actualy pointless , it was just the system forcing it into our faces yet again.

No matter how much and where you show it , gay/lesbian is not normal.

now lets not start about trans.

that is the definition of wrong.

@anthp2000: You are wrong. Patriarchy is only that. A neutral term that highlights if a country or company or in certain cases families are led by men. It doesn't have to be like in Saudi Arabia or anything, but that is also a patriarch in all aspects of what I just said.

Also, I can someone please tell me if this post I just responded to is report worthy or not, because I really feel I want to report him..

Well, no, I'm not. I'm studying glossology and this is not debatable what patriarchy officially means. If you think you know better bring up evidence.

@byondeon: with gay being wrong i mean not the relationahip of man and man.

I mean sex.

its factual wrong.

yh, pls dont crush me lmao.

trans are one of the most egoistic inviduals on this planet and dont deserve a healthy body tbh.

waste money to change a healthy body when they could have used that money to help ppl who actualy got real problems.

i look at things from a perspective your manipulated brain cant even comprehend.

1 hungry kid is more important than a million healthy gay and trans ppl complaining about their so called problems.

Dont even try, have a good day.

dont expect a reply becouse your mentality is belongs to the system and nothing but the system can change it.

Also reporting me becouse of a diffrent opinion.

damn, this sounds like as if you want me to be a sheep like you or else i get banned.

@byondeon: There was no profanity, no explicit language, no name-calling, no threats of violence. Why would you want to report someone who just doesn’t hold the same beliefs as you?

That guy is crazy. The gay couple in IT2 is to set up a kill from pennywise.

@kgb725: As I thought. They were not meant to push a gay agenda at all then. Just so that Pennywise can kill those people.

lol this is exactly what I was thinking. The roster of the original Avengers were all white people (Hulk don't count) and there's literally been 1 movie about a non-white hero, with just 2 on the way.

The MCU is embracing diversity in their characters without compromising the original characters, that's exactly what you're supposed to do

@kgb725: @byondeon:

The gay couple being bullied and then one of them being killed by Pennywise is straight out of the book Which was written long before any kind of internet movement or agenda

@ninetoadclown: Not read the book so.. Can't really say. And not seen the movie.

I don't see why people make it such a big deal about people being gay in movies and shows or having a female lead that are better than males.

Though I would guess it's because up until like the 70's, women had been seen as second class citizens and the men didn't want the status quo to be disrupted.

People wan't to make movies and shows that reflects society and that people can relate to because that is what will give them the most money. Because MANy people will go see the movies that they can relate to.

I know, we're gonna hit 20% at this rate.

You forgot Thor and Dr Strange where females are co leads so its 5.5

What do you mean by that? Sjw’s are just the far left that makes liberals look bad and since their more prominent right now they’re very loud.

If so then I don’t think so, they kinda of have to respect their characters more as it’s the movies which are very popular unlike the comics which is a niche medium. So they can’t make their male characters look bad in favor of making female characters look good because the outcry would be too big. Though just giving women or minority’s more relevant roles isn’t really SJW.

@jjonahjamesonjr: That's not how the industry works. Unless a female name is at least part of the title, then it doesn't count.

edit: And I'd hardly say Jane or (I'm assuming) TAO had as prominent roles as their male co-stars in these movies anyway.

Jane is going to be still Mighty Thor. So 5

@jjonahjamesonjr: Oh I forgot about that. Yeah.

MADNESS.