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    Could MCU Surtur destroy a major city?

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    No....because a random city wouldn't have a crystal core to detonate

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    Asgard is small country size.

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    Pretty evident the palace is not at the centre of Asgaard, but very closer to the edge of it.

    So yeah, Surtur is island level just from this still, and considering he completely vaporized it, he's at the very least small country level.

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    Pretty evident the palace is not at the centre of Asgaard, but very closer to the edge of it.

    So yeah, Surtur is island level just from this still, and considering he completely vaporized it, he's at the very least small country level.

    damn he is bigger the a mountain

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    Well yes considering how big he is.

    However I dont know if he can suicide blast destroy anything but Asgard, since that's part destiny for him.

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    #106  Edited By Doofasa

    Ummm he could just walk around and destroy any city on Earth, no need for his "suicide final attack." As stated above, by the time he busted Asgard he was 4000 mtrs tall. That's roughly 50 times the size of 2014 Godzilla.........a city wouldn't last 5 minutes.

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    Yes. He should

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    looking at size of mcu asgard seems way bigger than our average city on earth so yes he can

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    yes

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    He cant explode or vaporize a city. But he can flatten it and everything in it.

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    Ignorant fools so misinformed on Surtur, he's just a skyscraper buster. Asgard didn't explode under his own power.

    If I were to shove a fork into an electric outlet surrounded by dynamite would I be called a home buster?

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    Yes, easily.

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    @tparks said:

    Surtur is technically a "planet buster", but I don't know if anyone realized how small Asgard actually was. There is a short scene when Thor comes out of the Devil's Anus in the Grandmaster's ship, and it shows all of Asgard as seen from space. It's just the one small city, with a small body of water surrounding it. Call it maybe 40 square miles, and maybe a mile or two thick (the planet is flat, not round).

    Here's an artist's rendition that is not taken from the movie, but it seems pretty comparable based on my memory of the scene:

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    So could Surtur actually destroy a city the size of something like New York, knowing that Asgard is actually a planet much smaller then most major cities?

    I thought Asgard had mountain ranges on it?

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    No....because a random city wouldn't have a crystal core to detonate

    Could he bust Sokovia when it was floating?

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    @tethadam: if you're whether he can bust it like asgard, then no, the crystal did the heavy lifting in that.

    Floating sokovia was not exactly solid, overtime he would destroy it but if he can somehow disrupt the magnetic field holding the city together, it will fall apart on its own

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    #117 krisbishop  Moderator

    He vaporized the entire land mass. Big difference between surface area and volume. Yes he can.

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    He could roll around in his sleep and destroy any city.

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    Asgard is like small country sized

    And yes he can

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    Obviously. His mere precense was causing tremors all across Asgard and each strike from his sword was leveling city blocks.

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    Pretty easily with like two sword swings

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    #123 cocacolaman  Moderator

    Yes.

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    Threads like this reaching 3 pages just goes to show the MCU hate.

    OT of course he can.

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    He can

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    Asgard is also much more durable than a regular city.

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    #127  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online

    Lol Asgard is huge, it has multiple moons

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    #129 takenstew22  Moderator

    Asgard is atleast island sized so he can do much more than that.

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    #130  Edited By AllFatherOdin

    @tparks: sorry I maybe three years too late but surtur uses the twilight sword to destroy several more powerful places that earth in the comics. He plunges it deep within its core!!!!!!

    Also Asgard is by far the most powerful planet in the mcu. This is power, durability everything, the question is not can surtur destroy a city, but can anyone else but surtur actually destroy Asgard. It’s his prophecy for a reason. Odin may have beaten him but he is more powerful than Odin.

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    #132 frozen  Moderator

    MCU Asgad is at best island sized. And that's with wank. Official concept art shows its nowhere near country sized:

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    NWName's scale puts it at a measly 19km, which is the length of Darth Vader's executor star destroyer:

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    Surtur also died to this attack. So he gets vaped by an island busting attack.

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    #134  Edited By mr-yes

    Effortlessly

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    Easily LOL

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    Asgard looks to be a Large island size land mass.

    So one shotting it would be small country level.

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    #137  Edited By tparks

    @infinitymatrix: Based on pixel counts and calcs, it’s not far off from the 40 square miles like I said in the OP, and actually a little smaller since it’s a circle, not a square.

    Compared to New York, which IIRC, is over 300 square miles.

    I’m not the biggest fan of pixel counts, but even if you take the spire and scale from that, it still comes out to about 40 square miles.

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    For sure

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    #139 justneedhelp  Online

    Of course

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    Yes. It's not only common sense, but logical that he can.

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    @tparks: I guess I highball it bc there is a group of small Mts on it.

    Asgard itself is like small town level.

    The metal Asgard is made up of might be more durable than what we have on earth.

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    wtf

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    He could.

    You know it's funny, the "city level" and "island level" and all that vsbw shit people use to tier characters(including myself 70% of the time) are really bad cause real life cities are multiple kilometers long even larger that islands while having buildings on them too but "Island level" is multiple tiers above destroying a city apparently.

    If surtur even used that final attack irl he'd be lucky to take out 1/4th of new York. Let alone the entire city. This is why power scaling is just pointless lol and makes me question what the point of all this debating really is

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    #144  Edited By tparks

    @infinitymatrix: Ya, I’m not against anyone saying he can destroy New York, because I don’t think he was portrayed as being less then city level, but Disney made Asgard really small for some reason, or maybe they just didn’t do a very good job with scale when they showed the planet from space.

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    #145 frozen  Moderator

    @tparks said:

    @infinitymatrix: Ya, I’m not against anyone saying he can destroy New York, because I don’t think he was portrayed as being less then city level, but Disney made Asgard really small for some reason, or maybe they just didn’t do a very good job with scale when they showed the planet from space.

    They also had Surtur moved by Hulk. City level is definitely within range but I can't fathom how people come out with planetary.

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    @tighten_returns: The point of debating is because it’s just a fun hobby. It’s not like it actually matters if anyone is right or wrong about any of this.

    I do think good comic book writers, and more importantly the editors, do take a bit of this into account. I don’t think they do calcs or anything like that, but they do take the abilities and limitations of the characters seriously. That’s the good writers though, and they’re aren’t enough of those.

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    @frozen: Ya, that’s way too much.

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    @tparks said:

    @tighten_returns: The point of debating is because it’s just a fun hobby.It’s not like it actually matters if anyone is right or wrong about any of this.

    I do think good comic book writers, and more importantly the editors, do take a bit of this into account. I don’t think they do calcs or anything like that, but they do take the abilities and limitations of the characters seriously. That’s the good writers though, and they’re aren’t enough of those.

    Oh. If that's the case then;

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    @tparks said:

    @tighten_returns: The point of debating is because it’s just a fun hobby.It’s not like it actually matters if anyone is right or wrong about any of this.

    I do think good comic book writers, and more importantly the editors, do take a bit of this into account. I don’t think they do calcs or anything like that, but they do take the abilities and limitations of the characters seriously. That’s the good writers though, and they’re aren’t enough of those.

    Oh. If that's the case then;

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    Yikes. I’ve never left a comment that caused someone to deactivate their account. Who would have thought it would be one so mild as that one? Lol

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    #150 rajjarsalt  Online

    FFS two can play at this game.

    Asgard binds a whole galaxy

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    And it is a realm in its own right that exists outside the universe.

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    In this case, Asgard is an actual realm of reality.

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    And there are entire universes contained in the Nine Realms.

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    In fact, when Vultron performs his best feat where he smashes multiverses together into universe soup.

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    You can actually see Nidavellir (one of the Nine Realms) and Mustafar (Star Wars!)

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    Not to mention the amount of water that's on Asgard. It keeps falling, and they never run out!

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