Laurence Fishburne is the New Perry White in Man of Steel

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#301  Edited By Caligula
@Gambit1024 said:
@Caligula said:

Nothing's wrong.  But I bet you one million dollars if, a Black Panther film is made and they cast Daniel Craig as Black Panther, or if say Heidi Klum is Storm. See if the Black Community is as "cool" with it as they are this.
If that day comes (and it probably won't because some things just don't turn out that way), but if that day comes, I will personally go back to the Marvel.com message boards and troll everyone who ever called me a racist for not agreeing that Ultimate Fury is better than 616 Fury.   Because, according to them, if you prefer 616 Fury to Samuel L. Jackson with an eye patch, you're racist. 
lol.
 
I actually like Ultimate Fury better than 616 Fury as well, But I agree 100% that just because you like the original white version better does not make you a racist.
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#302  Edited By cdeoleo
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@cdeoleo: I already answered this one but I'll take another shot by answering it another way and using an example. Say I was going to do comic of the Daily Bugle and this scene walks Robbie Robertson. I would have a check list of characteristics and personality traits that I go by that describe the character. Now making him say Asian American. It's a major change for the visual characteristics. Although he can still do the ra ra america thing that Perry does it wouldn't be Perry doing it. If some small skinny guy to do the role of a kingpin he could still be the very intelligent manipulater who uses people like pawns but he wouldn't be Wilson Fix because Wilson Fisk is big. I hope that answers you question to your satisfaction.
So you have no problem with Michael Clarke Duncan playing Kingpin since the central trait of Kingpin is that he is big? Or because MCD is black does this warrant a new character?
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#303  Edited By Marshal Victory
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Um not sure about this privilage deal your talking about. But as fast as comics change any amount of time took to do a census would change month to month. http://www.census.gov/ isnt even that acurate for what it does realy. 
 
Ya realy the Ultiamate spidy change is not the same as this.Spellings gone worse so this will be me last post of the night.This all reminds me of a story.Friend of mine was a card carrying comunist .He was from china.His favrotie super hero.. captian america. Another friend of mine growing up was a Jehovah's Witnesses ,he was white an his fave super hero was http://www.comicvine.com/night-thrasher/29-2098/ so realy one does not have to see a refelction of them selves in a hero to like them.  
 
Thus i would aruge their doenst need to be a exact % of x ,y or even z.
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People also are ignoring the fact that Halle Berry is biracial, American and has the body of a little boy. Brian Singer cast her because she filled the role (poorly), but there were no complaints about her diminished accent, her lost ability to speak to lightning, wind and rain and her lack of womanly form.

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#305  Edited By cdeoleo
@Dernman: No do not think I think you and the person who made this comment are the same. I have continued speaking with you because you seem coherent. As you notice I have not responded to others who have spoken to me about this issue because it quickly became apparent to me that they are incoherent. 
 
The person who made the comment falls into the later category as he calls Spiderman an American icon. Alexander Hamilton, W.E.B DuBois or Ben Franklin are American icons not Spiderman. 
 
Also are you a fan of Spider-Man or Ultimate Spider-man? Because Peter Parker is completely intact in the 616. In the Ultimate universe Peter died and well the space is open and it should be open to anyone, including someone who is bi-racial.
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#306  Edited By Dernman  Online
@cascadeking09: Chuck Wepner and Joe Frazier, a white boxer and a black boxer from Philadelphia. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with looking nothing like either guy. It's movie perry I like to think of any movie as an alt universe since 9 times outta ten they're going to be alot different but still similar to the comicbook. So just think of it as the Perry of this universe is a black man I see nothing wrong with that, still has the same personality and even some of the physical traits of Perry White doesn't mean that they ruined Perry by changing the color of his skin or his race. 
 
Rocky may have been based on these people but he wasn't them. 
It wasn't a biopic of these characters. Will smith did a movie of a real life character who was homeless then became a rich stockbroker.
That was a movie about some real guy not a character that uses a person as a basses.
Not sure if I explained the difference good enough.
 
It was a story about Rocky that used those two fighter as a bases. It wasn't a story about those two fighters. See where I'm coming from now.
The visual change the character might not be important to you but it does to me and a lot of others.
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#307  Edited By Gambit1024
@Caligula: Lol, thanks for the agreement. 
 
And I don't blame you for wanting the actor to resemble the character. Batman's always been a white guy, if they changed him to an Indian guy, I'd be pretty upset. Part of the reason I really don't care about Perry White's actor portraying him on film is because I'm not watching Zach Snyder's "Super Perry", I'm watching Zach Snyder's "Superman". 
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@cdeoleo: So you have no problem with Michael Clarke Duncan playing Kingpin since the central trait of Kingpin is that he is big? Or because MCD is black does this warrant a new character? 
His bigness was a plus for him. So was the fact that he was male. Because he was big should I forget that Wilson Fisk Is a male?
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#309  Edited By quiksilver70777
  • This is BLASPHEMY to the Superman legacy. No respect for the tradition DC characters .
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@Dernman: What's your point? 21 was based on a true story. When you make a character based on someone else that's who they're supposed to look like. This actor is playing the movie version of Perry White, the movie version will always be different from the real thing.
 
The characters story was made up but to show the heart of the fighers that stood up to Muhammad Ali. And intead of a big mouth muslim from Louiville  they took Apollo Creed and made him an all american type of fighter. My point is that things are going to be made regardless, a change in race with an actor that can play the part isn't so big a deal when much worse has been done to bigger characters. 
 
I'm sure we both know that no actor so far to play Batman has ever looked like him in anyway, none of them had black hair and blue eyes and none of them are 6'2-6'3, 3 of them didn't do anythng to disguise their voices while they were in costume. Rober Downey Jr. hardly looks like Ironman and doesn't have a hispanic back ground, he's pretty old for him too I think,  Black Widow didn't have an accent, Ben Athlek doesn't have red hair, Jennifer Gardner doesn't look anything like Elektra, We all know that Nicolas cage looks nothing like Johnny Blaze. I'm just thinking of as many examples as I can. The only possible way a lot of those actors could look any less like the character is if they were a different race, and those are mostly off the top of my head.
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@cascadeking09 said:

@Dernman: What's your point? 21 was based on a true story. When you make a character based on someone else that's who they're supposed to look like. This actor is playing the movie version of Perry White, the movie version will always be different from the real thing. The characters story was made up but to show the heart of the fighers that stood up to Muhammad Ali. And intead of a big mouth muslim from Louiville they took Apollo Creed and made him an all american type of fighter. My point is that things are going to be made regardless, a change in race with an actor that can play the part isn't so big a deal when much worse has been done to bigger characters. I'm sure we both know that no actor so far to play Batman has ever looked like him in anyway, none of them had black hair and blue eyes and none of them are 6'2-6'3, 3 of them didn't do anythng to disguise their voices while they were in costume. Rober Downey Jr. hardly looks like Ironman and doesn't have a hispanic back ground, he's pretty old for him too I think, Black Widow didn't have an accent, Ben Athlek doesn't have red hair, Jennifer Gardner doesn't look anything like Elektra, We all know that Nicolas cage looks nothing like Johnny Blaze. I'm just thinking of as many examples as I can. The only possible way a lot of those actors could look any less like the character is if they were a different race, and those are mostly off the top of my head.

This.

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#312  Edited By Dernman  Online
@cdeoleo: I'm a fan of both 616 Spiderman and Ultimate Spiderman. In Ultimate Spiderman Peter Parker was basically the same character. The new one doesn't change that in anyway. It doesn't change Peter. It doesn't even change Spiderman, They didn't change the fact that Peter was Spiderman. 
Its an addition not a change.
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@Dernman: What were your thoughts on replacing Jarvis with an Apple product? or the fact that Cavill isn't actually Kryptonian?

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#314  Edited By cdeoleo
@Dernman: Okay I see where you are going. Kingpin should be Big, White, Male because this is who Kingpin is. So if MCD was going to be a bad guy in a Daredevil movie (lets say they want to use him since he is a great actor) he would need a new character, with a new backstory which feels organic to the existing Mythos in Daredevil. 
 
Now I do think to myself that studios are in the business of making money. This extra effort to get MCD into the movie may dissuade the studio to hire MCD since it represents extra cost (cost because one writers must be paid and change represents risk since comic book readers are not fans of unwarranted changes).  Would you think this is a logical conclusion?
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#315  Edited By Caligula
@sesquipedalophobe said:

@Dernman: What were your thoughts on replacing Jarvis with an Apple product?

It was pointless and unneeded, but cool as hell. (same as this situation, Larry will be awesome I keep saying this. But the pointless changes are dumb, is what I've been saying all along. Not that it won't work or even be kick ass.)
 
@sesquipedalophobe said:

or the fact that Cavill isn't actually Kryptonian?


now this is just being moronic.
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@Caligula: It was cool as hell? Jesus.

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#317  Edited By Dernman  Online
@cascadeking09: Ok I didn't read all of your post past so whats your point. With a point I already made. 
I have decided to make a character based off of Superman. I'm going to change his name, look and a few other details.
Now I have a character he is Icon, Mr Majestic, Apollo, Captain Marvel and it goes on. One thing my character isn't is Superman.
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#318  Edited By cosmo111687

Cool. He's a good actor and he'll do a good job. Kinda sickened by all the racism, though.

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#319  Edited By SC  Moderator
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Cool. He's a good actor and he'll do a good job. Kinda sickened by all the racism, though.
 
Thhhiiiiiiiissssssssss I agree with! 
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There is, in fact more. Blade doesn't have that weird hairstyle, Tobey Macguire doesn't look like Peter Parker, Wolverine is 5'3 not 6'3 and there are plenty of short actors around 5'8 that could play the role too (everyone loves Hugh Jackman, at least I do), Taylor Kitsch didn't even do a cajun accent for Gambit, Liev is far from looking anything like Sabretooth, Lynn Collins doesn't even look native american, Professor X is not English, Magneto is supposed to be tall and is also not english or british or whatever (they didn't even get his real name right), Scott is 6'3 not 5'9 he and Wolverine are totally backwards, Scott also has red hair and so does Jean, Storm has an accent which didn't even show up in the second movie.  Steel is not 7'1 and doesnt have to jump because he can fly.
 
 
The only actors that resemble the comicbook versions in some ways are Tyler Mane as Sabertooth, Brandon Routh, Chris Evans as Captain America, Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern, Mark Strong, Edward Norton, William Hurt, and Chris Hemsworth. 
 
I actually had to look for those bottom ones and Only 4 of those movies did well. Incredible Hulk, Captain America, Thor, and X-men. And out of those only 2 of them are recent.  
 
@sesquipedalophobe: Nor is Henry Cavill 6'3.

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#321  Edited By Dernman  Online
@cdeoleo:  I think they could have saved money buy picking the right people for Daredevil and Electra instead of picking overpaid actors who didn't fit those two roles..
If they can't do the movie right they shouldn't do the movie in the first place.
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#322  Edited By cdeoleo
@Dernman: That is nice you think that but is my logic correct?
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#323  Edited By cascadeking09
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@cascadeking09: Ok I didn't read all of your post past so whats your point. With a point I already made.  I have decided to make a character based off of Superman. I'm going to change his name, look and a few other details. Now I have a character he is Icon, Mr Majestic, Apollo, Captain Marvel and it goes on. One thing my character isn't is Superman.
I think that's kind of rude, I took the time out to type all that and you didn't even read it. You should've told me not to bother.
 
And now leave everything but the color of his skin, he's still Superman. Just like alternate universe characters are still technically those characters. As I said before you would be better off if you took all comicbook movies to be alternate realities because things are NEVER going to be exactly the same, if that weren't the case then there would be no point in seeing any comicbook character in a live action movie. Lol Captian Marvel is the same race as Superman and his personality is slightly different just like his powers, his origin is different, alot more is different than what is the same. 
 
That's all a movie is, is character that alot of times has the same personality and everything else but is still only based on the comicbook version. There's no point in changing the name and keeping the same Origin story.
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#324  Edited By cascadeking09
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@cdeoleo:  I think they could have saved money buy picking the right people for Daredevil and Electra instead of picking overpaid actors who didn't fit those two roles..If they can't do the movie right they shouldn't do the movie in the first place.

As I side not I like the movie as a movie, but not as a movie about Daredevil. They also tried to merge Elektra with Echo and then made them play fight in the park just like they really fought in the comicbook. When I found that out I couldn't help but facepalm. Was it too much to just portray her character as her character instead of morphing her from 2 different ones?
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#325  Edited By SC  Moderator
@Gambit1024 said:
If that day comes (and it probably won't because some things just don't turn out that way), but if that day comes, I will personally go back to the Marvel.com message boards and troll everyone who ever called me a racist for not agreeing that Ultimate Fury is better than 616 Fury.   Because, according to them, if you prefer 616 Fury to Samuel L. Jackson with an eye patch, you're racist. 
 
Woah, did you just generalize an entire message board? One i know well? Surely there is an irony there? Its a very oversimplified argument. It would be like me saying "I" should go back to Stormfront because those guys yep, they disagree with changing these pure white roles into those... non pure types. lol Then again Stormfront is like a lot of websites, I know people who go there to try and disagree. I'd feel lazy for overgeneralizing.
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#326  Edited By SC  Moderator
@cascadeking09 said:
The only actors that resemble the comicbook versions in some ways are Tyler Mane as Sabertooth, Brandon Routh, Chris Evans as Captain America, Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern, Mark Strong, Edward Norton, William Hurt, and Chris Hemsworth. 
 
Ugh even then... as weird as it sounds, Chris Hemsworth 'looked' Australian to me, and not like Thor at all. Probably because I am really familiar with Australian TV, movies, and music and Norwegian movies, TV and music lol 
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#327  Edited By cascadeking09
@SC: Lol, still like the movie though. Hemsworth also doesn't entirely fit the "looks like him" part because Thor is 6'6 and Hemsworth is only 6'3.
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#328  Edited By Dernman  Online
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You go on and on with the changes.  One hair can be dyed to the color that it needs to be. An actors height can be manipulated to seem like it is different that it is. An accent can be faked.
 If you can't do that for the actor then you chose the wrong person for the role how would you suggest Fishburn more fit the role of an old white man. The only thing what you said does is show that hollywood has a pretty F'd up record when it comes too what they do with characters something I have always said.
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@SC: Lol, still like the movie though. Hemsworth also doesn't entirely fit the "looks like him" part because Thor is 6'6 and Hemsworth is only 6'3.
 
Yes, I was pleased. Even though I knew the actor from a really cheesy Australian soap drama... (uhm... my girlfriend... made... me watch...) I could tell he worked really, really hard to own that role, and so I was consciously aware I was watching a movie, it was still a very good movie and I am glad they went with him. Plus yes the height. Very nice points in your other posts as well too, thanks, saves me typing up my thoughts.  
 
I think its just a matter of personal discretion. There is what the story tellers want us to see and what they write as defining characteristics, and then there is what us, each individual viewer views as a characters defining characteristics. Those two things don't always mesh up or maybe some of us just care more about certain details than others, when it comes to certain characters, for certain reasons founded or unfounded. 
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#330  Edited By cosmo111687
@SC said:
@cascadeking09 said:
The only actors that resemble the comicbook versions in some ways are Tyler Mane as Sabertooth, Brandon Routh, Chris Evans as Captain America, Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern, Mark Strong, Edward Norton, William Hurt, and Chris Hemsworth. 
 Ugh even then... as weird as it sounds, Chris Hemsworth 'looked' Australian to me, and not like Thor at all. Probably because I am really familiar with Australian TV, movies, and music and Norwegian movies, TV and music lol 
He absolutely did. I didn't get Scandinavian from him at all.
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#331  Edited By Dernman  Online
@cdeoleo: No because
1 If they did the right thing in the first place they wouldn't have been in that position.
2 If you took the stance you just had to hire him in your next movie but couldn't a ford to hire him and hire the right Wilsen Fisk.  Then you ether give up Wilson Fisk or do a movie that he does fit the role.
 
Either do it right or don't do it at all.
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#332  Edited By SC  Moderator
@cosmo111687 said:
He absolutely did. I didn't get Scandinavian from him at all.
 
Do you watch lots of random Australian and Norwegian TV shows and movies though too? That is how I try to chalk it up lol *grin* Plus, I know he is a bit older now, but I really wanted the guy from the Princess Bride movie to play Fandral... instead they were going to go with the guy who played Lestat or alternatively Chuck... from you know? Chuck. lol I am glad they went with who they did. See? This whole conversation can be really controversial without talking about the R word. lol *smile* 
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@SC: Not Norwegian, but I've had a fascination with Sweden and Australia since I was little, as esoteric as that sounds. :) So I have some idea of what you're talking about. Haha. :) Cary Elwes is definitely my top choice for swashbuckling roles, even if he is getting older.
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#334  Edited By SurelockeHomes
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@ScarlettLynn: If they were simply choosing to include an actor who just happened to be black.  They could have simple created character (which they do all the time (creating characters that is)) who just happens to be black. It seems you have wall of a different kind you can't see past all your own
Wouldn't that be a contradiction? If they're casting for Perry, then get an actor who happens to be black and then said "Oh yeah, you're not Perry anymore. We're making create a new black character who just happens to be black like you" be creating a new character just for a black man to be the editor whilst not being Perry?
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#335  Edited By cosmo111687
@SC: And what's the R word? Rhinoceros? Ritalin? Rockyroad Icecream? Can't we discuss rockyroad icecream?
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#336  Edited By Dernman  Online
@cascadeking09: Your right it was rude that was wrong but realize your not the only one I'm trying too discuss this with and I'm trying too keep up.
I think what I wrote answered it all didn't it? 

"And now leave everything but the color of his skin, he's still Superman." Let me stop you right there. No he's not superman. If huge change like that was ok then would have had a Superman who is Human but we don't we have an alien. A human Superman is not Superman.
 
If I want to go watch a movie adaptation Superman I want it to be about that character.
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#337  Edited By SurelockeHomes

*Gasp!* SCENARIO!!!!

Say we didn't know that they were going to get a black man to play Perry. We didn't know who they were picking. They didn't tell us who they were casting, what ethnicity or anything he was or anything. Then, all of a sudden, they say "We're not having Perry in this movie.  We're making a new editor(again, White, Asian, Latino, or Black, we do not know) for this movie." I imagine we'd be having a rage over them taking Perry out and replacing him with another news editor. I don't know about everyone else here, but I'd be more upset about them taking Perry out than them casting Lawrence as him and speculating that it's only "to cater to black audiences."
 
I'm not posting this as a question, because I know that us having the knowledge that we do of Perry and his being portrayed by Lawrence, we can not answer objectively. 
 
Besides, I don't think saying "Hey Blacks! We made the editor from Superman Black like you" would attract very many black people. Maybe if they said "Hey, we're making Superman black, like you," they would get a reaction. But I doubt blacks would see that as incentive enough to go see a Superman movie if they weren't going to see it in the first place.

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#338  Edited By Dernman  Online
@cascadeking09: No it's not to much to ask. That's why I get upset when they change something.
If you have Electra in a movie give Electra not some hybrid. Not only could she not do electra but she was nothing like echo.
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#339  Edited By SurelockeHomes

*Gasp again!* They should have Dwayne Johnson play Superman(Relax I'm joking)(Or am I?).

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#340  Edited By cascadeking09
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@cascadeking09:  You go on and on with the changes.  One hair can be dyed to the color that it needs to be. An actors height can be manipulated to seem like it is different that it is. An accent can be faked.  If you can't do that for the actor then you chose the wrong person for the role how would you suggest Fishburn more fit the role of an old white man. The only thing what you said does is show that hollywood has a pretty F'd up record when it comes too what they do with characters something I have always said.

Yes hair being dyed isn't the real thing. Height can be ruined and wasn't done right in any of those movies. Accents can be done poorly if you don't choose the right actor. Storm had an accent in one movie then in the next she didn't. If you cant find an actor that will attract the right attention and also doesn't fit the description the next best thing is Fishburne. Again what old white man? We don't know what they were looking for when they chose the role. What popluar white actor do u know that would be willing to play the role, fits the description well, and is the right age? Lol which shows that casting Fishburne isn't half as bad as what a whole lot of other messed up things can be. And most of those movies did really well so it really isn't that f'd up now is it?
 
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@cascadeking09: Your right it was rude that was wrong but realize your not the only one I'm trying too discuss this with and I'm trying too keep up. I think what I wrote answered it all didn't it?  "And now leave everything but the color of his skin, he's still Superman." Let me stop you right there. No he's not superman. If huge change like that was ok then would have had a Superman who is Human but we don't we have an alien. A human Superman is not Superman.  If I want to go watch a movie adaptation Superman I want it to be about that character.


Yes it was rude to ignore my post.  I understand I'm not the only person you're replying to but maybe a "get back to what you said later" would've been better than just ignoring it. No a change in skin color is not a HUGE change, it my not be a small change, but if that's the only tweak to what the character is there isn't that big of a deal. There have been alternate versions of Superman that were black. And I'm not talking about a total different character with similar powers and morals I mean another Superman. If I want to go see a movie adaption of Superman then there's nothing wrong with a slight change, we've had way worse. What you're trying to say is that you'd rather someone who's not a good fit for the role play the part as long as they look like him, than someone who is a good fit, but doesn't have the right skin tone.  
 
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@cascadeking09: No it's not to much to ask. That's why I get upset when they change something. If you have Electra in a movie give Electra not some hybrid. Not only could she not do electra but she was nothing like echo.

See there, that's a big change to make. You're not just messing with the characters hair color or something physical that can be changer, you're messing with everything that makes that character who she is.
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@SC: Lol, still like the movie though. Hemsworth also doesn't entirely fit the "looks like him" part because Thor is 6'6 and Hemsworth is only 6'3.
 Yes, I was pleased. Even though I knew the actor from a really cheesy Australian soap drama... (uhm... my girlfriend... made... me watch...) I could tell he worked really, really hard to own that role, and so I was consciously aware I was watching a movie, it was still a very good movie and I am glad they went with him. Plus yes the height. Very nice points in your other posts as well too, thanks, saves me typing up my thoughts.   I think its just a matter of personal discretion. There is what the story tellers want us to see and what they write as defining characteristics, and then there is what us, each individual viewer views as a characters defining characteristics. Those two things don't always mesh up or maybe some of us just care more about certain details than others, when it comes to certain characters, for certain reasons founded or unfounded. 

Thanks. I tried to look at it from both sides but I honestly don't see it as that big an issue. I do think Perry should be played by a caucasian, but if Lawrence Fishburne is who I'm stuck with I can't be too mad lol at least they chose somebody who can play the part. And those are good points you just made there. What the writers or the director has envisioned may be something totally different from the way we see it. But as long as that character isn't ruined by it and they don't do it just to please a black audience then I can live with that.
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@SurelockeHomes:  No if you wanted a Black editor you wouldn't be casting or Perry. You could say Perry retired or if you wanted Perry you didn't have to make him the editor. Make him the owner of the planet. Or another reporter. Part of the story is Lex buys the planet and fires Perry and Hires this Fishburn. There are so many options available storywise. Unless your too lazy, unimaginative or plain just dont care there is nothing stopping you from having a diverse cast and staying true to the source material.
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#342  Edited By Dernman  Online
@SurelockeHomes: Like I said he didn't have to be the editor he could be the owner, rival, a reporter whatever. But if you can't do it right then don't do it.
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#343  Edited By SurelockeHomes
@Dernman: I just don't think we should be going to such great lengths to have a black man not be Perry. Isn't that, you know, a little racist?
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#344  Edited By SevanGrim
@Dernman said:
@SurelockeHomes: Like I said he didn't have to be the editor he could be the owner, rival, a reporter whatever. But if you can't do it right then don't do it.
 i take a slight offense to the suggestion that this is being done wrong...
 
 Perry is one of those characters who kind of skirts the edge of who can and cant be changed. I have a strong felling DC is simply trying to catch on to that same train Marvel started with Nick Fury. However, it oviously works, so idk. 
 ... i wonder if people would have made more or less of a big deal if Jimmy changed race...
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@cascadeking09:
@Dernman said: Yes hair being dyed isn't the real thing.  And the acter isn't really who they are playing. 
You can dye your hair and convince someone your a redhead I have seen plenty of actresses do that. 
Yes if they do the height thing wrong it messes it up and if they mess it up I'll be right there with you on the complaints so they should do it right.
 Hally berry was a horrible choice as Storm she looked nothing like I pictured her. I thought her accent was horrible and she had the wrong body type. She also lacked that regal quality that Storm has. You can't say fishburn would make a good Perry  because you don't know what Perry Looks like if he was black. 

We don't know what they were looking for when they chose the role ? We should know what they are looking for. Perry White. Don't know who he is? Look at the source material.
  What popluar white actor do u know that would be willing to play the role, fits the description well, and is the right age? 
 
I'm not in the business so I do keep a list of actors but  I have seen some good ones and it doesn't have to be a known actor. Lots of times an unknown has been  proven for the job. Sorry but it doesn't show anything but you think their isn't white guy that can do Perry.
 
Your telling me if a character it's not a huge deal. Then tell me how your going to make Fishburn white because Perry is white. It's not some little tweek. If I'm hispanic and your doing a movie about me. You better get someone who is Hispanic or make the audience believe is or you really dropped the ball. You want to go to Fishburn and tell him he to do what he has to do to be white.  An alternate version of Superman is not superman this is not rocket science. If you have a character that has a  description but don't use that description then your not using that character.  Our sun is called Sol if you replaced it another star its not going to be Sol. Perry has a discretion if your replace that description the it stops being Peryy your can say this or that but Perry is still white. 
Superman is of the Kryptonian race you change that but he wouldn't be Superman. That's important Perry is white isn't less important. no matter how much you don't want it to be.
 
Even if they didn't try to make her into a hybrid it wouldn't have made her any less unfil for the role.
 
As much as you don't want to admit it the visual is a big part of who you are.  They wanted Nic Cage as superman. I don't give a flying whatever if he could play the role. He couldn't fit the role just on looks a lone.
 
You may not think of it as a big issue but to me there is no point of using  a character if you not going to portray that character as is.
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#346  Edited By Dernman  Online
@Grim:  If there is a character in a book described as shy but you make a movie with the character but he not shy but outgoing.  Edit
I wrote that wrong I meant to say There is nothing offensive about saying its wrong but the change is offensive my apologizes if you read it before edit.
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I like Laurence, he's a stellar actor and will certainly bring his intensity and gravitas to the role, and definitely will not be a Perry that tolerates any crap from Lois and/or Clark. This casting is a bit strange, yes. But look at how awesome Idris Elba was as Heimdall, even though it was a limited role.  
 
People need to relax. It's not like Perry will be the main character in the film. I understand that many are simply upset that it is deviating from the massive source material, but it's a Zack Snyder project. Deviations are to be expected when he adapts anything. 

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@Illuminatus: Perry may not be the main character but I feel the supporting casts descriptions are just important  I can understand some deviations happens but if it's ok to change something so basic.that you may as well just make Kal-el the last of the human Manazons that's separated from the tribes of Amazonian in Themyscira.
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@Dernman said:
@Illuminatus: Perry may not be the main character but I feel the supporting casts descriptions are just important  I can understand some deviations happens but if it's ok to change something so basic.that you may as well just make Kal-el the last of the human Manazons that's separated from the tribes of Themyscira.
Whoa...I think you're blowing this whole situation WAY out of proportion. Casting a black person to play a role normally played by a white guy is minor compared to completely retconning the origin of Superman, the film's main character. 
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#350  Edited By CurbsideProphet
@SurelockeHomes said:
@Dernman: I just don't think we should be going to such great lengths to have a black man not be Perry. Isn't that, you know, a little racist?
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