i wish they cast will smith as superman

@spiderbat87 said:

This is stupid, its like arguing that Chris Evans is from Boston not NY

not really. it's the equivalent of making a movie about Chris and making him Black.

This is a good casting choice. It might be reflected in the DCnU, hopefully.

@Caligula said:

@spiderbat87 said:

This is stupid, its like arguing that Chris Evans is from Boston not NY

not really. it's the equivalent of making a movie about Chris and making him Black.

Hay nobody moaned when MJ did it for real

I don't have a problem with it, since Laurence Fishburne is a good actor. But, Perry has had a pivotal role in the Superman mythos as a White man. Why change it? 
 
The Daredevil movie's main mistake (other than casting Ben Affleck as Daredevil) was making Kingpin a Black man. 

I don't have a problem with it, since Laurence Fishburne is a good actor. But, Perry has had a pivotal role in the Superman mythos as a White man. Why change it? 

Wait a goddamned minute... Frank Langella played Skeletor? I think we all learned a thing about ourselves today, and Frank Langella.

Is Perry White's race somehow pertinent to the character?  No?  Then STFU.

Is Perry White's race somehow pertinent to the character?  No?  Then STFU.

@shackle said:

Is Perry White's race somehow pertinent to the character?  No?  Then STFU.

is Blades?

@Caligula said:

@shackle said:

Is Perry White's race somehow pertinent to the character?  No?  Then STFU.

is Blades?

No.  And?  You have a point?

@shackle said:

@Caligula said:

@shackle said:

Is Perry White's race somehow pertinent to the character?  No?  Then STFU.

is Blades?

No.  And?  You have a point?

what if instead of Snipes they casted Jason Statham as Blade? would you tell the legions of fans enraged by disrespect for the tradition of the character to STFU.

@Caligula said:

@shackle said:

@Caligula said:

@shackle said:

Is Perry White's race somehow pertinent to the character?  No?  Then STFU.

is Blades?

No.  And?  You have a point?

what if instead of Snipes they casted Jason Statham as Blade? would you tell the legions of fans enraged by disrespect for the tradition of the character to STFU.

But Blade is not a periphery character, he is a LEAD character.  See the difference?  White's race really doesn't mean diddly--he's the "Boss" character.  He could be a lamp for all that it really matters in the Superman canon.

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@ScarlettLynn said:

@Marshal Victory said:

Its hypocritical to say this race role cant be changed because its a minority but this role can because their more of that race.Its as racist to want to see a movie/comic because a race role was changed, as not wanting to see it because of some ones race. 
           

It's just simply not. It's not the same thing and it's incredibly sad that you can't see past the wall of white privilege to grasp that. Erasing representation of other cultures, races or skin colors is NOT the same thing as simply choosing to include one talented actor who happens to be black in a film role.

you really really really don't get it.
           

No. I don't get hiding behind years of institutional racism in order to maintain a white's only casting policy for major Hollywood films. And I'm sorry for you, that you do get that.   Hopefully the one or two white male superheroes that get to star in movies these days will be enough to comfort you in this time of distress.

                   

               

@Caligula: You really ARE a waste of time, aren't you?  Carry on; I'm done with you.

The Daredevil movie's main mistake (other than casting Ben Affleck as Daredevil) was making Kingpin a Black man. 

@Caligula: That argument is not the same considering those two characters history, morals, and experiences are greatly influenced by their ethnicity.

:) 

I'm going to give my baby niece some shapes to play with.
I have 6 squares and 2 triangles to give. oh no I don't have enough triangles to give I better go buy some more. WAIT! I can't do that that would make me shapist. I better carve these squares up and make them triangles because everyone knows The only reason I would rather buy more triangles instead of carving the squares is because I'm a shapist.

I'm going to give my baby niece some shapes to play with.
I have 6 squares and 2 triangles to give. oh no I don't have enough triangles to give I better go buy some more. WAIT! I can't do that that would make me shapist. I better carve these squares up and make them triangles because everyone knows The only reason I would rather buy more triangles instead of carving the squares is because I'm a shapist.

@Caligula: I don't know where you just pulled that load of crap from. Personally I like Storm for her character, her powers, and who she is rather than her race.

This is a case of acute Sam Jackson envy. 
Just Sayin'.

@Static Shock: At what point does Perry being a white man matter?

@Caligula: Yes I would care because as I said before Storm's history, character, morals, and quite a few of her experiences come from her ethnicity. African's would not worship Lucy Lui as an AFRICAN GODDESS. Storm isn't a sideline character whose ethnicity doesn't play into her character like Perry White is.  It does not matter if Perry White is a white man or not considering his color has no bearing on his character. Most people outside of comic book readers don't even know who Perry White is. Tell me what effect does Perry being white have on his character?

@Chibi-Iroh said:

@Static Shock: At what point does Perry being a white man matter?

At the point that it's a part of his character to be White. That's what he's been established as, so what's the point of changing it for a Hollywood movie?   

@Static Shock: Can we please stop putting Perry White into the same caliber of character as T'Challa and Ororo. As I have said before T'challa and Storm's character, history, morals, and quite a few of their life experiences are drawn from their ethnicity. Which of Perry's experiences are drawn from his ethnicity? The fact that he is the Editor and Chief of a news paper?

@Caligula: No she would not have and you know it. NO matter how you try and spin it changing Storm or T'challa's race would make no sense considering just how heavily the character is built around their race.

Which of Perry's experiences are drawn from his ethnicity? The fact that he is the Editor and Chief of a news paper?

Hey buddy who is helping me cast this movie what do you think of the guy we just auditioned to star it role. 
sigh the character Mr C Dundee has a Australian accent but this guy couldn't do one if his life depended on it.
Oh that's ok we wouldn't want to be ist would we.

@Lance Uppercut: I wouldn't have cared as long as an amazing actor was the reason they were changing his race and not diversity. I think the reason Laurence Fishburne was chosen was because he is an amazing actor simple as that.

Then again, Lex Luthor was Black (just light-skinned) in Superman: The Animated Series and in Justice League.... LOL. Bruce Timm was able to make that work, however.

@Chibi-Iroh said:

Which of Perry's experiences are drawn from his ethnicity? The fact that he is the Editor and Chief of a news paper?

I don't really care, to be honest. He's been White for several decades, and it has been that way in every movie, TV show, and cartoon show he's appeared. Again, what's the point of changing it? It's not like they can't find a good White actor to play his role, and I'm sure there's plenty.   If anything, Snyder is just looking for an excuse to put a Black man in the movie, even though there are several Black characters that are tied into Superman's mythos and live in Metropolis. Jefferson Pierce and John Henry Irons come to mind. If he was smart, he'd cast a Black man in one of those roles or something.

J. Jonah Jameson should have been black too

@Static Shock: Frank Langella is not white nor does he look white.

@Static Shock: Frank Langella is not white nor does he look white, and as I said before have you considering the fact that Fishburne got the role because of his acting ability. People tried to do this same thing when Heimdall was cast as a black man, but they quickly shut the hell up when they saw for themselves why he was chosen.