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    Movie » Man of Steel released on June 14, 2013.

    Reboot of the Superman movie franchise and the beginning of the DC Extended Universe, with Henry Cavill as the man of steel. Directed by Zack Snyder, of 300 and Watchmen fame. Written by David Goyer and Christopher Nolan, director of The Dark Knight Trilogy.

    Laurence Fishburne is the New Perry White in Man of Steel

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    Edited By No_name_here

    Continuing its way of filling its cast out with some seriously respectable actors, THE MAN OF STEEL has brought Laurence Fishburne in for the role of Daily Planet head honcho, Perry White. And I say good. He already played a hero’s ball-busting, curmudgeonly boss in the last MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE movie, so it doesn’t take much imagination to picture him in this part. It may some more imagination, though, to imagine him exclaiming, “GREAT CAESAR’S GHOST!” in this darker, edgier take on Supes.

    Mr. White has a new way of enforcing deadlines.
    Mr. White has a new way of enforcing deadlines.

    Deadline reveals that this signing coincides with him opting out of another season of CSI. The last actor to play White at the movies was, of course, Frank Langella in SUPERMAN RETURNS, so it feels like we’re seeing a new tradition established here where White’s played by character actors with some unavoidably memorable genre roles in their past. I couldn’t help but see Skeletor in the Daily Planet offices last time. This time, maybe I won’t be able to not see Morpheus or hear the Silver Surfer there.

    == TEASER ==

    You’ll notice that I only bring up the characters Fishburne’s played in relation to this and not the fact that he happens to be an African-American actor. That’s because it should be a non-issue, just like it was with the casting of Nick Fury, Alicia Masters,Heimdall and the Kingpin. However, this announcement comes at almost the same time as the one about the identity of the new Ultimate Spider-Man and I feel the occasion warrants my commenting that the backlash against Miles Morales has to be the most knee-jerk, moronic hysteria I've seen in comics in a long time. It makes me embarrassed to be a fan.

    Tom Pinchuk’s the writer ofHYBRID BASTARDS!&UNIMAGINABLE. Order them on Amazonhere&here. Follow him on Twitter:@tompinchuk

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    #1  Edited By difficlus

    Dark and edgier huh... hope it works out in the end. Laurence is a great actor so i'm pretty optimistic.  
    @Caligula said:

    I like Larry. And I think the he will be great.  But seriously are white people so hard to find anymore?
    its not that. Its just bringing a breath of diversity and modernization to this new superman. 
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    #2  Edited By Caligula

    I like Larry. And I think the he will be great.
     
    But seriously are white people so hard to find anymore?

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    #3  Edited By justafan

    dark and edgy just like the green lantern sequel

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    #4  Edited By Jordanstine

    Superman gets Morpheus. The movie is already sounding like it's going to be dark.

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    #5  Edited By Duo_forbidden

    Wow, that's pretty interesting. This Superman movie continues to pique my curiosity more and more.

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    #6  Edited By Caligula
    @difficlus said:

    Dark and edgier huh... hope it works out in the end. Laurence is a great actor so i'm pretty optimistic.  
    @Caligula said:

    I like Larry. And I think the he will be great.  But seriously are white people so hard to find anymore?
    its not that. Its just bringing a breath of diversity and modernization to this new superman. 
    really?
    I know plenty of Black Men who adore Superman. I don't think changing Perry White's race is going to make Superman any more or less appealing. So how about just sticking with tradition.
     
    As I said I love Larry, and I bet he gives a great performance. But is it really necessary, or is it like Osiris' thread is debating "Diversity for the sake of Diversity" which I believe is the case here. It's totally pointless and serves no justifiable purpose.
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    #7  Edited By difficlus
    @Caligula said:
    @difficlus said:
    Dark and edgier huh... hope it works out in the end. Laurence is a great actor so i'm pretty optimistic.  
    @Caligula said:
    I like Larry. And I think the he will be great.  But seriously are white people so hard to find anymore?
    its not that. Its just bringing a breath of diversity and modernization to this new superman. 
    really? I know plenty of Black Men who adore Superman. I don't think changing Perry White's race is going to make Superman any more or less appealing. So how about just sticking with tradition.  As I said I love Larry, and I bet he give a great performance. But is it really necessary, or is it like Osiris' thread is debating "Diversity for the sake of Diversity" which I believe is the case here. It's totally pointless and serves no justifiable purpose.
    Actually it does serve a purpose, like i said you may think it makes no difference but others internationally may have a different mind about seeing something edgier. So yes it can be justified. There is nothing wrong with diversity. it makes no difference TO YOU then why comment on it. 
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    #8  Edited By SurelockeHomes

    What's wrong with having black people do white characters? I think he can do it well.

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    #9  Edited By difficlus
    @Caligula
     @Duo_forbidden said:
    Wow, that's pretty interesting. This Superman movie continues to pique my curiosity more and more.
    see case in point. 
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    #10  Edited By Fantasgasmic

    Said it on Screened and I'll say it again here:  I'm not cool with this!  
    How dare Zach Snyder cast Lawrence Fishburne! 
     

    …Not because of his race, but because every time I see Lawrence FIshburne I see this... 
      

       
    also this...
      
      
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    #11  Edited By Kal'smahboi
    @Caligula said:
    But is it really necessary, or is it like Osiris' thread is debating "Diversity for the sake of Diversity" which I believe is the case here. It's totally pointless and serves no justifiable purpose.
    I agree that we're seeing more and more "diversity for the sake of diversity" in the industry but I honestly believe that this isn't the case here. I believe that they interviewed and auditioned many people for this role and came to the conclusion that Fishburne was the best choice. You said yourself that he was a good one and I agree.
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    #12  Edited By Gambit1024

    So in a nutshell, he'll be an amalgam of J. Jonah Jameson and Robbie Robertson.

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    #13  Edited By 1fearless1

    I'm NOT white, but what the heck is going on these days with white characters being replaced by blacks? 
    This is beginning to be ridiculous and ANNOYING!!! And of all other race, they chose blacks and only blacks? 
    Something is going on in this world. It appears that the entertainment industry is trying too HARD to shove blacks up our butts these days. 
     
    Pay attention to all of your TV shows and movies. How often do we see a black dude having a relationship with a white chick, but not so much of a white dude having a relationship with a black chick?  
    But they're NOT pushing to show a white chick having a relationship with other race (Latino/Asian/Middle Eastern etc.). This has NOTHING to do with diversity when only one race (BLACK) is selected for just about every role.

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    #14  Edited By Caligula
    @difficlus said:
    @Caligula said:
    @difficlus said:
    Dark and edgier huh... hope it works out in the end. Laurence is a great actor so i'm pretty optimistic.  
    @Caligula said:
    I like Larry. And I think the he will be great.  But seriously are white people so hard to find anymore?
    its not that. Its just bringing a breath of diversity and modernization to this new superman. 
    really? I know plenty of Black Men who adore Superman. I don't think changing Perry White's race is going to make Superman any more or less appealing. So how about just sticking with tradition.  As I said I love Larry, and I bet he give a great performance. But is it really necessary, or is it like Osiris' thread is debating "Diversity for the sake of Diversity" which I believe is the case here. It's totally pointless and serves no justifiable purpose.
    Actually it does serve a purpose, like i said you may think it makes no difference but others internationally may have a different mind about seeing something edgier. So yes it can be justified. There is nothing wrong with diversity. it makes no difference TO YOU then why comment on it. 
    Black People are Edgier?... why? If I was black I'd take that as an insult.
    And I comment on it, because diversity is fine if you ADD a black character. Don't turn into Zatanna and start changing classic characters races for the sake of having a diverse comic or film.
     
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    What's wrong with having black people do white characters? I think he can do it well.

    Nothing's wrong. 
    But I bet you one million dollars if, a Black Panther film is made and they cast Daniel Craig as Black Panther, or if say Heidi Klum is Storm. See if the Black Community is as "cool" with it as they are this.
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    @Jordanstine said:
    Superman gets the Matrix dude. The movie is already sounding like it's going to be dark.
    He was also Cowboy Curtis in Pee Wee's Playhouse. Dude doesn't seem so dark to me. lol
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    #16  Edited By difficlus
    @Caligula said:

    @difficlus said:

    @Caligula said:
    @difficlus said:
    Dark and edgier huh... hope it works out in the end. Laurence is a great actor so i'm pretty optimistic.  
    @Caligula said:
    I like Larry. And I think the he will be great.  But seriously are white people so hard to find anymore?
    its not that. Its just bringing a breath of diversity and modernization to this new superman. 
    really? I know plenty of Black Men who adore Superman. I don't think changing Perry White's race is going to make Superman any more or less appealing. So how about just sticking with tradition.  As I said I love Larry, and I bet he give a great performance. But is it really necessary, or is it like Osiris' thread is debating "Diversity for the sake of Diversity" which I believe is the case here. It's totally pointless and serves no justifiable purpose.
    Actually it does serve a purpose, like i said you may think it makes no difference but others internationally may have a different mind about seeing something edgier. So yes it can be justified. There is nothing wrong with diversity. it makes no difference TO YOU then why comment on it. 
    Black People are Edgier?... why? If I was black I'd take that as an insult.
    And I comment on it, because diversity is fine if you ADD a black character. Don't turn into Zatanna and start changing classic characters races for the sake of having a diverse comic or film.
     
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    What's wrong with having black people do white characters? I think he can do it well.
    Nothing's wrong.  But I bet you one million dollars if, a Black Panther film is made and they cast Daniel Craig as Black Panther, or if say Heidi Klum is Storm. See if the Black Community is as "cool" with it as they are this.
    it deviates from tradition, hence it is a new modern and edgier take on this mythos. It would be the same if they cast Jackie Chan in the role.  
    Turning a character black has already being addressed. 
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    Wait a goddamned minute... Frank Langella played Skeletor? I think we all learned a thing about ourselves today, and Frank Langella.

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    #18  Edited By SurelockeHomes
    @Caligula: Well, Perry White's ethnicity is not as much a part of his character as the Black Panther Or Storm.
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    #19  Edited By dernman
    @difficlus: I'm not debating on either side of this argument this time but I will say this. going against tradition doesn't make something edgeir. If that were true you couldn't go against tradition and make something less edgy which is done all the time.
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    @SurelockeHomes: I agree. Why are people unsettled by this when white actors played Indians in Ma & Pa Kettle? It's a real double standard.

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    #21  Edited By Caligula
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: Well, Perry White's ethnicity is not as much a part of his character as the Black Panther Or Storm.
    really? hmmm. Can't remember him being any other race. Guess I'd better re-read my 300 plus Superman books.
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    @Caligula: I don't remember Superman throwing a plastic wrap es around his enemies.

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    #23  Edited By SurelockeHomes
    @1fearless1: Statistically speaking, black women are the least likely to date outside of their ethnicity, even when being surrounded by people of other ethnicities. But who knows? Maybe there's a lack of other actors trying out for the roles. Maybe he's just the best one they found. Now if that's the case in all of the other cases you mentioned, I don't know. But I usually prefer to think about more possibilities when seeing my actors. And I can't change the way they're casting, so I don't try. But maybe you can get a petition going to stop getting injustice in the movie casting business.
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    #24  Edited By jointron33
    @sesquipedalophobe: and? this REEKS of "yeah, we're hip, we've got street cred!"
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    #25  Edited By guardiandevil801

    He is good choice because he can be good at yelling as Perry White
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    @jointron33: This doesn't reek of anything but the best choice for the role. If they had cast Lion-O, I might have thought they were playing the race card. If they had cast George Lopez, then you know for a fact edgier was their intent. I'll clue everyone in on what I thought of his past works, I didn't see a black man playing a black part. Get on with it.

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    #27  Edited By SurelockeHomes
    @Caligula: Yes, he may be white, but that doesn't matterwhen it comes to his character. Storm was hailed as a goddess in Africa, something much less likely to happen if she were white. Black Panther was the last in a long line of heirs to his throne. Something very unlikely for a white man as well. Am I sensing an attempt to patronize me?
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    #28  Edited By Caligula
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: Yes, he may be white, but that doesn't matterwhen it comes to his character. Storm was hailed as a goddess in Africa, something much less likely to happen if she were white. Black Panther was the last in a long line of heirs to his throne. Something very unlikely for a white man as well. Am I sensing an attempt to patronize me?
    there are plenty of white people in africa, also their is a lot more white kings in history than black ones so... your point is retarded.
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    I think he can do it fine. Maybe not who I would have picked to do the role of Perry but I think it can be fine nevertheless. After all, I think we've more than embraced Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury so, bring it on Laurence Fishburne!

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    #30  Edited By dernman

    I would have been pissed off if they replaced Black Panther with a white guy.

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    #31  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous
    @Caligula said:
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: Yes, he may be white, but that doesn't matterwhen it comes to his character. Storm was hailed as a goddess in Africa, something much less likely to happen if she were white. Black Panther was the last in a long line of heirs to his throne. Something very unlikely for a white man as well. Am I sensing an attempt to patronize me?
    there are plenty of white people in africa, also their is a lot more white kings in history than black ones so... your point is retarded.
    You guys can argue all you like but can you not use the word retarded?
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    #32  Edited By SurelockeHomes
    @Caligula: No, it's not. Take a look at my emphases. Yes, there are a lot of white people in Africa, but the Africans have had much bad history with them, and would probably be less likely to worship them. Maybe if they brought them rain, but it's still more likely that they would worship a woman who looked like them who brought them rain.
     We don't know for sure the comparison between white kings and black ones, but Get the point: A Long Line of heirs. In Africa. And Africans were building pyramids while my white ancestors were still hiding in caves, but I digress. Either way, your points are moot. Perhaps you just lack the mental capacity to comprehend what I'm saying to you.
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    #33  Edited By Primmaster64

    Red Pill or Blue Pill

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    @Caligula: But Black Panther's character is central to his culture and homeland, that had there been white royalty in Africa it would have been made into a comic. His point is entirely accurate based on Marvel lore.

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    #35  Edited By ScarlettLynn

    So many racist little fanboys, so little opportunity to spew their garbage. They must just be loving the opportunity to play the poor oppressed white-male over the last couple of days. Enjoy, guys! Unfortunately the casting of persons of color isn't something that happens every day.

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    #36  Edited By SurelockeHomes
    @ScarlettLynn: I like you.
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    #37  Edited By Caligula
    @spiderbat87 said:
    @Caligula said:
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: Yes, he may be white, but that doesn't matterwhen it comes to his character. Storm was hailed as a goddess in Africa, something much less likely to happen if she were white. Black Panther was the last in a long line of heirs to his throne. Something very unlikely for a white man as well. Am I sensing an attempt to patronize me?
    there are plenty of white people in africa, also their is a lot more white kings in history than black ones so... your point is retarded.
    You guys can argue all you like but can you not use the word retarded?
    seriously?
     it's a perfectly accurate word for describing his arguments.

    re·tard·ed /riˈtärdid/

    Adjective: Less advanced, esp. mentally, than is usual for one's age.
     
    stop worrying about being so PC.
     
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: No, it's not. Take a look at my emphases. Yes, there are a lot of white people in Africa, but the Africans have had much bad history with them, and would probably be less likely to worship them. Maybe if they brought them rain, but it's still more likely that they would worship a woman who looked like them who brought them rain.
     We don't know for sure the comparison between white kings and black ones, but Get the point: A Long Line of heirs. In Africa. And Africans were building pyramids while my white ancestors were still hiding in caves. So your points are moot. Perhaps you just lack the mental capacity to comprehend what I'm saying to you.

    regardless. why the f*** would you mess with a characters history? Perry White predates both Storm and BP. If it was really about equality, why is it only the Black people who get the sympathy from creators for this kind of garbage. why not Asians or Hispanics or Indian? 
    If you want more diversity make a new character. Don't try to hide behind and already famous characters history.
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    #38  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous
    @Caligula said:
    @spiderbat87 said:
    @Caligula said:
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: Yes, he may be white, but that doesn't matterwhen it comes to his character. Storm was hailed as a goddess in Africa, something much less likely to happen if she were white. Black Panther was the last in a long line of heirs to his throne. Something very unlikely for a white man as well. Am I sensing an attempt to patronize me?
    there are plenty of white people in africa, also their is a lot more white kings in history than black ones so... your point is retarded.
    You guys can argue all you like but can you not use the word retarded?
    seriously?
     it's a perfectly accurate word for describing his arguments.

    re·tard·ed /riˈtärdid/

    Adjective: Less advanced, esp. mentally, than is usual for one's age.
     
    stop worrying about being so PC.
     
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: No, it's not. Take a look at my emphases. Yes, there are a lot of white people in Africa, but the Africans have had much bad history with them, and would probably be less likely to worship them. Maybe if they brought them rain, but it's still more likely that they would worship a woman who looked like them who brought them rain.
     We don't know for sure the comparison between white kings and black ones, but Get the point: A Long Line of heirs. In Africa. And Africans were building pyramids while my white ancestors were still hiding in caves. So your points are moot. Perhaps you just lack the mental capacity to comprehend what I'm saying to you.
    regardless. why the f*** would you mess with a characters history? Perry White predates both Storm and BP. If it was really about equality, why is it only the Black people who get the sympathy from creators for this kind of garbage. why not Asians or Hispanics or Indian?  If you want more diversity make a new character. Don't try to hide behind and already famous characters history.
    Yea well where I'm from that word is offensive 
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    #39  Edited By azza04

    New way of enforcing deadlines LMAO. This is good news, I like Fishburne.

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    #40  Edited By Marshal Victory

    Started to send this in as a tip yesterday. Thought better of it after the ultimate spiderman thread.But one should note of the whole race issue.When its a anime made into a live action an theirs a caucasian replaces an asian its called whitewash an theirs outrage!But same people will be for this or ultimate spider man change etc.  
     
    They will post how this intrests them now an they would go see it .Accuse any one who wants source material honored as racist..Unless its a minority changed then thats racist Yet its a race change that now makes them "intrested" an how racist that is? Not seeing their own reflection in a mirror of hypocrisy.With little chance of them drowning in their own personality they will call every one else a racist. 
     
    Again what is wrong with honoring the source material?Its been proven again an again when a movie is made an the closer it is to the source material the better it does at the box office.
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    #41  Edited By SurelockeHomes
    @Caligula: My argument contains logic, and I've shown myself to be mentally superior to you this day. I have beaten you, evidenced by the fact that you had to resort to calling me retarded. You have reverted to calling my argument retarded, and discarded all logic. Therefore, by your own definition, your argument is lacking in the mental area. Call it barbaric if you will. Barbaric as in unsophisticated, primitive. You're acting like a child, insulting me because you didn't win. 
     
    Maybe he wasn't getting sympathy. Maybe he just out-acted all of the other actors. I am not making the diversity argument. I'm making the "He probably did better than everyone else who tried out" angle. It doesn't matter who came first. His ethnicity doesn't change his character one bit, based on history or anything else. I bet you would be at least equally irate if they took out Perry for another character and said "He's the owner of the daily planet."
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    #42  Edited By Caligula
    @spiderbat87: well the internet is not here to cater to your personal tastes. you seem like a good dude and this is not me attacking you, but defending my choice of words.
     
    also this is getting off of the topic.
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    #43  Edited By dernman

    Still not debating on a side buuut..... I bet the same people that call  someone racist because they are upset they are changing Perrys race would go ape$%$^ if they changed Robbie Robertson to white.
    Yet the same people that are upset that they are changing Perry into a black man would be just as upset if they changed Robbie Robertson white.

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    #44  Edited By Caligula
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: My argument contains logic, and I've shown myself to be mentally superior to you this day. I have beaten you, evidenced by the fact that you had to resort to calling me retarded. You have reverted to calling my argument retarded, and discarded all logic. Therefore, by your own definition, your argument is lacking in the mental area. Call it barbaric if you will. Barbaric as in unsophisticated, primitive. You're acting like a child, insulting me because you didn't win.   Maybe he wasn't getting sympathy. Maybe he just out-acted all of the other actors. I am not making the diversity argument. I'm making the "He probably did better than everyone else who tried out" angle. It doesn't matter who came first. His ethnicity doesn't change his character one bit, based on history or anything else. I bet you would be at least equally irate if they took out Perry for another character and said "He's the owner of the daily planet."
    win? win what?
     
    and I never attacked you. I pointed out the flaws in your argument, at the end called the argument retarded. If pointing out the holes in your logic counts as a "loss" then whatever. or if they don't and the use of the word "retarded" is akin to waving a white flag then I guess you did "win". whatever you were attempting to "win". If you set out with concept of engaging in dialogue with someone, in the idea that is a some sort of sport then you have an issue.
     
    you have yet to explain how anything, you said justifies changing tradition of a character for no reason and declared yourself the winner of some invisible internet competition, I didn't even know I was involved in.
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    #45  Edited By SteevDave
    @Caligula: Yes but in those 200 comics his race isn't what defines the character it's his personality.  Perry white could have that same personality as a black man or a Latino woman.
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    @Dernman: Not so much and besides, Robbie isn't an essential character unless it came to a story about Tombstone. If they had cast Donald Glover as Spider-Man, I would still say it's an improvement over Maguire.

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    #47  Edited By SurelockeHomes
    @Caligula: When two men have opposing viewpoints and debate them, it is to see whose logic is superior. You never pointed out any flaws in my argument. You said a few irrelevant points, which I decided to rebut anyway, and you made another irrelevant response in the form of "Perry white came first." Yes, your use of the word "retarded" is equivalent to waving the white flag. Are you familiar with the seven stages of fanism? I'm sure if you look at them slosely enough, you may see the resemblance between yourself and what is being described, albeit in a different context. I set out with the goal of explaining to you why the logic of "This guy is black, he shouldn't play a white role" is flawed. I have explained myself, I even put some of it in bold so you could more easily see. You just responded with "That's retarded." PErhaps if you re-read it, paying attention to the points I have emphasized in italics and bold, you might understand.
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    #48  Edited By Caligula
    @SteevDave said:

    @Caligula: Yes but in those 200 comics his race isn't what defines the character it's his personality.  Perry white could have that same personality as a black man or a Latino woman.

    so you are trying to say the Black Panther and Storm are mostly defined by their race? and not their character and actions? I disagree. Wonder Woman isn't defined by her race but would it be cool if she were out of the blue to become black? what about Iron Man or Superman and I'm not talking about a new guy taking up the mantle, I'm talking about the actual original characters race changing? They are not defined by being white so is it cool if they are black? Blade is not defined by being black so it cool if he is white?
     
    Also you have a kick ass user name.
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    #49  Edited By Caligula
    @SurelockeHomes said:
    @Caligula: When two men have opposing viewpoints and debate them, it is to see whose logic is superior. You never pointed out any flaws in my argument. You said a few irrelevant points, which I decided to rebut anyway, and you made another irrelevant response in the form of "Perry white came first." Yes, your use of the word "retarded" is equivalent to waving the white flag. Are you familiar with the seven stages of fanism? I'm sure if you look at them slosely enough, you may see the resemblance between yourself and what is being described, albeit in a different context. I set out with the goal of explaining to you why the logic of "This guy is black, he shouldn't play a white role" is flawed. I have explained myself, I even put some of it in bold so you could more easily see. You just responded with "That's retarded." PErhaps if you re-read it, paying attention to the points I have emphasized in italics and bold, you might understand.
    Perry White came first and "Retarded" are not my arguments. go back and read and you'll see, I'm talking about the tradition of the characters. Guess it's to complicated for you so you pick out words and phrases you understand.
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    #50  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

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