There seems to be a consensus that Luke's strength falls within the 25-30 ton range. When Luke first debuted, he was one of the strongest, baddest characters in the Marvel Universe.

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But as other super strong characters have gotten more powerful over the years, Luke has stayed mostly the same, which means his strength hasn't really kept up with inflation. =} You see, the Thing went from being an 85 ton hero to a 100+ ton hero, and Colossus has gone from being a 70 ton hero to a 100+ ton hero. Even She-Hulk has entered the 100 ton club. Sure Power Man got a power boost in the 1990s, but--comparatively-- he's not as strong as you'd expect a guy named "Power Man" to be.

So maybe it's time for Marvel to give Luke that boost he deserves?

Now, I know what some of you are thinking. You're thinking, "Come on, Cap. Luke is supposed to be street level." But what is "street level" really?

Some say Spider-Man is the dividing line. Anyone more spectacular isn't street level, and anyone less spectacular is. But what about characters like Iron Fist? Danny can catch bullets and smash through helicarriers, but he's still "street level," right? There's nothing wrong with that either. With the threats Danny has to face and his lack of a precognitive sense or healing factor, he really needs to be able to do things like that to get by in the Marvel Universe. Additionally--getting back to "what is 'street level' really?"--Captain America isn't nearly as strong as Spider-Man, but he's beaten so many opponents stronger than himself that some consider him a cut above. So, "street-level" seems to have more to do with the threat than the hero. And as we've seen with guys like Iron Fist, you can always have a strong enough threat that seems to be "street level."

So, back to Luke. All I'm saying is, he should be Iron Fist's equal again--like the good old days; and he should be one of Marvel's premier strongmen again--like the good old days. Giving hime a power boost wouldn't make him any less street level than he is now. He shouldn't be Hulk strong or anything, but he should be Warpath (~80 tons at one point) or Colossus (100 tons) strong. IMO, at least.

And when the (New) Defenders rolls along, I guess Luke and Danny can be the Iron Man and Thor to Daredevil's Captain America.

Thoughts? Hopefully I haven't offended your sensibilities. =}

@captain13 said:

There seems to be a consensus that Luke's strength falls within the 25-30 ton range. When Luke first debuted, he was one of the strongest, baddest characters in the Marvel Universe.

Gallery

But as other super strong characters have gotten more powerful over the years, Luke has stayed mostly the same, which means his strength hasn't really kept up with inflation. =} You see, the Thing went from being an 85 ton hero to a 100+ ton hero, and Colossus has gone from being a 70 ton hero to a 100+ ton hero. Even She-Hulk has entered the 100 ton club. Sure Power Man got a power boost in the 1990s, but--comparatively-- he's not as strong as you'd expect a guy named "Power Man" to be.

So maybe it's time for Marvel to give Luke that boost he deserves?

Now, I know what some of you are thinking. You're thinking, "Come on, Cap. Luke is supposed to be street level." But what is "street level" really?

Some say Spider-Man is the dividing line. Anyone more spectacular isn't street level, and anyone less spectacular is. But what about characters like Iron Fist? Danny can catch bullets and smash through helicarriers, but he's still "street level," right? There's nothing wrong with that either. With the threats Danny has to face and his lack of a precognitive sense or healing factor, he really needs to be able to do things like that to get by in the Marvel Universe. Additionally--getting back to "what is 'street level' really?"--Captain America isn't nearly as strong as Spider-Man, but he's beaten so many opponents stronger than himself that some consider him a cut above. So, "street-level" seems to have more to do with the threat than the hero. And as we've seen with guys like Iron Fist, you can always have a strong enough threat that seems to be "street level."

So, back to Luke. All I'm saying is, he should be Iron Fist's equal again--like the good old days; and he should be one of Marvel's premier strongmen again--like the good old days. Giving hime a power boost wouldn't make him any less street level than he is now. He shouldn't be Hulk strong or anything, but he should be Warpath (~80 tons at one point) or Colossus (100 tons) strong. IMO, at least.

And when the (New) Defenders rolls along, I guess Luke and Danny can be the Iron Man and Thor to Daredevil's Captain America.

Thoughts? Hopefully I haven't offended your sensibilities. =}

I agree with you.Keep making these threads they're really interesting

Making him a 40-50 tonner would be cool.

He is definitely stronger than 40 or 50 tons right now... He is probably around 100 nowadays..

he's kinda like the thing right now. not the strongest but strong enough to hang with the heavy weights and make his victories look more awesome

he needs to be like the juggernaut.