How strong is Superboy?

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#1 Posted by daak1212 (8404 posts) - - Show Bio

I heard he has the potential to be even stronger than Superman is that true?  I also heard he took out Prime by himself.
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#2 Posted by fedykin87 (108 posts) - - Show Bio

Every recent future incarnation of Conner has shown itself to have advantages Clark will never get thanks to his Tactile Telekinesis evolving into full telekinesis and is hinted at as being psychically stronger than Clark. Although the latter was only really shown when ToT Conner was initially beating Kara with ease in a brief go around they had Other than that though its just heavily hinted and believed his superior to supes especially since the future Captain Marvel (freddy) is literally no match for him in a psychical fight. As for Prime I think it comes from the LO3Ws issues. All three legions were attacking Prime and he was for the most part completely unaffected by their attacks just being his normal cry baby self. Prime was batting away everyone even the Ultraboys who in at least two of the legions are supposed to be equal to Superman in strength but when Conner came he was the only one able to actually go and stay toe to toe against him matching him blow for blow.  He didn't take Prime out but he did injury him and was able to match him for the fight regardless of Prime being at full power and in direct sunlight.

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#3 Posted by Primmaster64 (21668 posts) - - Show Bio

That was PIS

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#4 Posted by UltimateSMfan (2377 posts) - - Show Bio

hey has anyone seen superboy usin superbreath?? not freeze breath ,superbreath  as in blowin away stuff???

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#5 Posted by RedK (2541 posts) - - Show Bio
@UltimateSMfan:  No not yet
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#6 Posted by daredevil21134 (15939 posts) - - Show Bio

I heard he can press a 100 tons
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#7 Posted by Mercy_ (94928 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#8 Edited by Mr. Dead Pool (3026 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes he can and will be stronger than Superman because with tactile telekenisis you can lift things like an entire building without it collapsing under it's own weight. Now combine the strength that you get from that with kryptonian strength you go beyond super strong and get ultra strong!!!

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#9 Posted by The WeatherMan (3261 posts) - - Show Bio

They usually show him to be weaker than Superman. He could go toe to toe with Superman, but he wouldn't hold out for too long. I don't know about what power he has the potential to obtain, but as it stands, he is generally weaker than Superman.

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#10 Posted by danhimself (21433 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:
" That was PIS "
I hate it when people call that fight PIS....it wasn't like a different writer came in and changed things around....Geoff Johns wrote all three of Superboy and Superboy Prime's fights....in the first fight Conner was jumped, second fight he was still recovering from the first fight, in the third fight he was at the top of his game and wasn't holding back.....would he have beaten Prime?  No. But he held his own without PIS
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#11 Posted by Jodin20723 (108 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself:
Superboy is not near Superman's Strength currently which is why his fight with prime was called PIS, because a WEAKER (then superman) SuperBOY was hurting Prime when in most accounts he is shown raping groups of hero's that include superman. not to mention that it took 2 SuperMEN to beat prime in Infinite Crisis. one major flaw in Superboy is his weaker solar absorption ability, i think that is a huge factor on how superboy might eventually be as strong and as fast as superman but will still never be able to go full toe to toe with superman. his human DNA has to create some type of Flaw in the Kryptoian DNA he has. because he is "half human" i feel like superboy should never be able to "fully" reach levels stronger then superman.
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#12 Posted by Jodin20723 (108 posts) - - Show Bio

perfect example is Dick as batman, even though Dick has the suit and the ability he will NEVER be as good as Bruce is. same is said with superboy, Coner has the ability in spades, but he has his flaws also that make him slightly "weaker" then superman is every way.
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#13 Posted by Primmaster64 (21668 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jodin20723: That's what I mean. Prime  beat Superman, Powergirl and Supergirl in Siniestro Corps War. He beat Andromeda, Valor and Superman in Legion Of 3 worlds. Don't get me wrong I like Superboy, but it just doesn't make sense.
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#14 Posted by Jodin20723 (108 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:
exactly i agree, i mean i feel like Legion of 3 worlds wanted to bring back superboy in a Dynamic way, so what better then superboy drilling a punch in prime's grill. lol but other then that superboy should of had his ass kicked by prime. characters can lose in Heroic fassion, superboy did it before and i think should of did it again in LO3W, have superboy never quit no matter how bad a beating prime gives him then he gets rescued by Superman and the 2 of them go to town on prime along with the Legion and kid flash. thats how i would of wrote the end of that book. lol
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#15 Posted by Primmaster64 (21668 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jodin20723: How can Superboy beat what's basically a Pre-Crisis Kryptonion, but not beat a modern one. Superman himself stated that he can't beat Prime. That would have been a nice ending.
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#16 Posted by Jodin20723 (108 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:
i know right Prime is punching through dimensions, and moving planets to starts inter-planetary wars (Rann/Thangar) and yet Superboy can go toe to toe with him. lol i call bull Sh!t lol
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#17 Posted by Primmaster64 (21668 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jodin20723: And even if it was true...Kon should be stronger than Supes.
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#18 Posted by AMS (1356 posts) - - Show Bio

They got the loop hole of Primes psychosis effecting him I suppose. 
 
He is scared by Flashes and Superboy hence he loses yet he walks around pimp slapping stronger people than them because he isn't scared of them.

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#19 Posted by Primmaster64 (21668 posts) - - Show Bio
@AMS: lol
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#20 Posted by hulkvshulk (2 posts) - - Show Bio

um bro superman lift over 100 trillion tons no lie

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#21 Posted by stephens2177 (1396 posts) - - Show Bio

superboy caught karas fist wbile she was speedblitzing him,which shows his strength and speed on a kryotonian level.

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#22 Posted by STELIOS23 (378 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself:

Superboy is not near Superman's Strength currently which is why his fight with prime was called PIS, because a WEAKER (then superman) SuperBOY was hurting Prime when in most accounts he is shown raping groups of hero's that include superman. not to mention that it took 2 SuperMEN to beat prime in Infinite Crisis. one major flaw in Superboy is his weaker solar absorption ability, i think that is a huge factor on how superboy might eventually be as strong and as fast as superman but will still never be able to go full toe to toe with superman. his human DNA has to create some type of Flaw in the Kryptoian DNA he has. because he is "half human" i feel like superboy should never be able to "fully" reach levels stronger then superman.

This joint here

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#23 Posted by stephens2177 (1396 posts) - - Show Bio

He is strong enough to beat martian manhunter unconscious

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#24 Posted by Hyperion_X (366 posts) - - Show Bio

Before Geoff Johns retconned Superboy he was stronger than Superman. For one thing Kon-El is far more powerful than Superman was as a teen, just take a look at Superman when he was deaged in the "Sins of Youth" storyline way back in 2000. Pre-retcon Superboy was also able to process solar energy better than Superman and Superboy's alternate adult version: Black Zero seemed a little bit too sure that he could defeat Superman

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#25 Posted by stephens2177 (1396 posts) - - Show Bio

There is

Kesel SB,who had his powers from the start,and could "hang" with top tier opponents

Geoff conner,who had all kryptonian powers and TTK

Smallville had all the Kryptonian Powers and full TK

New 52 superboy had powers that only seemed to limited by his own mind

So a teenage kon did seem more powerful than a teenage clark IF they say and keep that clark got his powers over time and not fully until he was older

Sins of youth aged kon had full TK,kryptonian level physicals,and had heat vision and hearing

Black zero had powerful TTK,kryptonian levels physicals,and heat vision and hearing

Titans of tomorrow older kon had all the Kryptonian Powers plus full TK

So he seemed to be atleast a lil more powerful or versatile thnot superman.

Actually I wouldn't mind a kon who was physically like his YJ shows levels,and with kesel SBs TTK skillset(minus the mimic part that the YJ physicals take care of).I don't mind a kon who has to struggle,or isn't as straight up powerful as kryptonians.

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#26 Posted by Hyperion_X (366 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177: The Kesel Superboy was the most powerful out of him and the Johns' version. Kesel Superboy was far more durable and had a more creative use of his tactle telekinesis. Johns destroyed Superboy and dumbed him down. Kesel wrote him far more better and more detailed with a more fun personality to match

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#27 Posted by stephens2177 (1396 posts) - - Show Bio

Every thing you said is of course obvious,the kesel kon was the one with the most heart,most will power,most ingenuity,most personality.

I miss that series every damn day

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#28 Posted by Hyperion_X (366 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177: Same here. Pre-retcon Superboy is my favorite character ever. The genius behind his original origin of making him a metahuman manipulating Superman's bio-electric aura at a time when DC had a rule that Superman was the only Kryptonian made him so unique and creative. I always wanted to see Black Zero fight Superman and show just how much more powerful Kon-El would be as an adult, but it never happened😞

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