Geoff Johns & Jason Fabok Talk Darkseid's Daughter, Darkseid War, and Driving JUSTICE LEAGUE Forward

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Darkseid War is coming! It's going to shake the DCU to its core. So far we've seen a huge glimpse into what we can expect with the DIVERGENCE Free Comic Book Day issue as well as JUSTICE LEAGUE #40, the prologue to the story.

We had to chance to extensively speak to both Geoff Johns and Jason Fabok about Grail (Darkseid's daughter, this story arc, and how they're elevating the series into having a bigger impact on the DCU.

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COMIC VINE: From the DIVERGENCE FCBD issue and JUSTICE LEAGUE #40, can we assume Darkseid’s Daughter, Grail, will play a big role?

GEOFF JOHNS: Yes, she will. It’s a pivotal role.

CV: She proclaims “Death to Darkseid” but does that necessarily mean she’ll be on the Justice League’s side? Especially with the image of her shown.

JOHNS: Yeah, I she has an agenda of her own. This whole storyline, Darkseid War, and in 41 we really start to peel back the layers, it’s all about agendas. The Justice League is a force for good caught between a war between the god of destruction and the dark god, Anti-Monitor and Darkseid. Really what Grail’s role in all this—her exact role will be revealed in the storyline, she’s definitely the catalyst for all of this. There’s a reason behind everything she’s doing, just like there’s a reason behind what Anti-Monitor’s doing, what Darkseid’s doing, and also what the Justice League has to do. She’s a bit of a character of mystery and we’re going to reveal that mystery and her connections, which go very deep obviously to Wonder Woman and the Amazons, over the course of the story.

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CV: Does Wonder Woman have any knowledge of her story, birth, and leaving Themyscira?

JOHNS: Diana’s really going to be the central figure in this storyline along with the rest of the Justice League and Mister Miracle. She has no knowledge of Grail but she’ll quickly learn of her. There’s a lot more to Grail and her mother Myrina and everything else that we set up in DIVERGENCE than we revealed. There’s a lot of moving parts here and a lot of secrets to Grail and her connection to the old and New Gods. She’s basically a bridge. She exists, part old god and part new. She actually thinks she’s doing the right thing for everybody. We’ll get into that but she’s a pretty great character. Jay and I have had a lot of fun in designer her and talking about her. We really wanted to introduce some new concepts and characters in Darkseid War and JUSTICE LEAGUE. She’s one of those characters and probably the main new one that we’ll be tackling.

CV: How would you describe the character or her look?

JASON FABOK: Geoff and I had talked a lot about visuals as well as the reasons behind these characters and what their motivations are. I remember back in art school, they told us whenever you’re designing a character, you want to try to fuse a lot of their personality and whatnot into the character in order to give a clear visual representation of who this character is. As soon as you look at them, you know who they are and what they’re about. That’s something we wanted to do with Grail. She’s the daughter of Darkseid so on one hand she’s like this monster. On the other hand, she’s also a daughter of an Amazon. We want to take both sides and bring them together.

Geoff had requested we not make her monstrous or anything like that. He wanted her to look more like an Amazon with a little bit of beauty to her but also a bit of an edge. I kind of just followed my instincts with the character. In the costume, you can see there’s some cues to the current Darkseid costume. The Omega symbol is in there but its flipped upside down. That makes it just a little bit off so Grail is keeping some of that connection to Darkseid, even with her color scheme. At the same time, she has the Amazon heritage in there too. I wanted her to look like she was part sci-fi, like from space-kind of deal but also have that fantasy/Greco-Roman elements to her as well.

JOHNS: The whole idea behind her is to really introduce a character that has a very personal side to Wonder Woman. This storyline becomes very very personal. There’s a lot of things are going to happen in it that will affect Diana, and the Justice League but specifically Diana, in a lot of new ways.

FABOK: I also decided it’d be cool if half of her head was shaved so it gives her a kind of different silhouette on the page. You can instantly pick her out from Wonder Woman or from Myrina Black. Designing her was just something that sort of came. It was like one shot and it was done. I just felt very happy with it. When that happens, when you’re designing a character, it’s really rewarding. It also makes it that much more fun to draw that character when you’re drawing them page after page. You automatically have a connection to that character.

Personally, whenever I’m working on a project and even if it’s a reoccurring character, I try to infuse some of my own likes and design choices into the character to make them my own. Sometimes I find when I’m drawing characters that have been designed by someone else, especially when I don’t like that design, I find it harder to connect with the character. Every character I come across, even a character like Green Lantern, who has a very standard outfit, I tweak it here and there just to feel like I’m bringing something to that character’s overall look.

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA'S VIBE #1
JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA'S VIBE #1

CV: Is this the same character mentioned back in JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA’S VIBE #1?

JOHNS: Yeah. This is a character I’d been planning on introducing since JUSTICE LEAGUE #1

CV: Any reason it took this long to finally see her? Was it a matter of setting everything up?

JOHNS: I don’t really think it’s taken long. I really wanted to introduce Darkseid and the fallout of that then Atlantis, Forever Evil and put Anti-Monitor on the board and bring Lex Luthor on the team. It’s always about the long term. When I know I’m going to be on a book for a while, I tend to plot years in advanced. I like the story arcs to build into one another. They can stand on their own, you can read Throne of Atlantis but there’s things in it that actually spill out and play into JUSTICE LEAGUE. The same with Forever Evil, all roads lead to Darkseid War. That’s part of the fun with monthly comic books to me—long term story telling. We don’t have that as much as we used to. I love subplots and things that are planned in and paid off. It feels more mythic or organic. Shows like Game of Thrones, I really enjoy it because of that stuff. I’m not in such a rush when I know I’m going to be on a monthly book for a while. I can really let it build organically. I’ve always wanted Lex Luthor on that team since day one but I had to have it happen at the right moment in the right storyline. I think the League is in a place now where they’re ready for all this to come to a head. So for me, it’s very organic and natural.

CV: I’m just impatient, I guess.

JOHNS: [laughs]

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CV: Is Myrina involved with the story? Are we going to find out more about her?

FABOK: Yeah, she’s going to be in the story. Geoff has such a great storyline with all these different characters coming together. It’s a lot of fun to draw these sorts of things. Like I said, we’ve discussed the story, all the ins and outs of it. We know where it’s going so that allows me to put things into the story, even from the first issue, that’s going to be relevant all the way to the end. She’s going to be in there with lots of Grail.

CV: Will it be explained how Mister Miracle and Big Barda are in this story after EARTH 2? I might have missed something.

JOHNS: You don’t really need to know anything going into JUSTICE LEAGUE #41. I catch you up on everything you need to know. There’s nothing really need to know except he’s the universe’s greatest escape artist.

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CV: What was it like having the double-page spread with all the prophecies in the FCBD knowing people would be analyzing ever detail?

JOHNS: That’s why we put it in there—so they would analyze every little detail. There’s a bunch of stuff in there people still haven’t analyzed correctly.

CV: We posted an article and I know we barely touched on everything in it.

JOHNS: Yeah, you were close on a few and far away on a couple and there were a few you didn’t even mention. But that’s part of the fun.

FABOK: Because I had read about things Geoff had done in the past, with the Trinity War thing for Free Comic Book Day, I remember reading up all the comments online about what people were thinking. It was all pretty much straight forward but I tried to be a little less revealing in some areas. Like we haven’t actually shown our full redesign of Mister Miracle but actually on that page, the Mister Miracle shot, that was the first redesign. We decided later, when were were starting issue 41, that we wanted to change the character’s design. Part of it is Geoff and I have this thing where we believe these superhero characters would have many different looks. I think Meredith Finch once said in an interview when talking about Wonder Woman, “She’s a woman. She would have a whole closet full of different looks and outfits that she would pick depending on the situation that she’s in."

For me, if the costume isn’t fully consistent throughout different things, I just accept that maybe the character has different looks. Maybe we’ll see that original Mister Miracle look in the book. I don’t know. Knowing that people are going to scrutinize and look at every little detail in there, I actually went and read some of the comments to see what people were saying, some people had ideas that were totally out there. I love reading those kinds of comments and seeing that a page can spark that in the fan base. It makes it a lot of fun to draw those kind of images.

JOHNS: Jay and I we’re like, if we’re going to do an eight-page story, come off the monthly book and do a cool eight-page story that’s going to be a bit of its own thing for Darkseid War, we really wanted to make sure it was something important and the origin of Grail certainly was but on top of that, allowing Jay to show the scope of what this war was going to be when you see Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor together facing off. It also would give everyone a little preview of what’s to come. Every character has a storyline that’s going to explode in a big way in Darkseid War. We want everyone to know we’ve been working on this story for a long long time. I thought it out meticulously and Jay and I have talked about it for months and months and months. I think we take a lot of pride in that as epic and sprawling as the story is going to be, we’ve really focused a lot of it on character.

Our characters are the Justice League and we’ll focus on both the ones people know, like Green Lantern and Batman and the others ones they don’t like Mister Miracle and Power Ring. It’s important to us to let everyone know that we’ve got a lot of plans coming and a lot of interesting things happening with the characters. Hopefully it’ll be a really fun ride for everybody. The goal is to make JUSTICE LEAGUE an event book every month and make it feel character driven and fun with high stakes and real surprises. The concepts we introduce and revitalize are big and grand. Very true to DC mythology, stories like this, from the very first time the Justice League met the Justice Society back in the 60s, stories like this that break the barriers of the universe and break the rules, and again, focus on the characters, is kind of a tradition DC. We want to update that tradition with JUSTICE LEAGUE, the book itself, and also get back to the event stories being in a monthly book. We want to make sure JUSTICE LEAGUE is at the center of the DC Universe and is really utilizing every aspect of the DC Universe. Any character can appear in this book because it does affect the entire DCU. We want it to feel worth everyone’s time. There’s so many books out there. Jay and I really focused our energy on making this one that hopefully everyone thinks and believes is worth their time and money.

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JUSTICE LEAGUE #42

CV: Jason, when we spoke in February, you said Batman was a character you enjoyed drawing along with Wonder Woman and Lex. Is that still the same or has anyone else moved towards the top of your list?

FABOK: Yeah, those characters are still up there. I really really enjoy drawing them every chance I get. As Geoff has mentioned, Darkseid War is going to focus a lot more on Wonder Woman. That kind of evolved naturally out of our Amazo Virus arc where we just found that we really liked that character. So we’ve been kinda moving towards that in Darkseid War. Another character in there

I’ve mentioned is Mister Miracle. Drawing him in this series has been a lot of fun. It’s been difficult. He’s a harder character to draw than you’d think. This happens with all characters but I’ll draw them in one issue and after that issue’s done I always go back and look at the artwork. I say, “What can I do differently? What do I like? What don’t I like?” In all honestly, you do pages everyday. You pretty much have a day to draw one page. If you go with your gut instinct and keep moving because you have to keep pace, sometimes you’ll look at the characters actions and say, “Man, I could’ve done this better. I could’ve done that better.” I’m sure Mister Miracle will kind of evolve through the first couple issues that you see him. He’s a lot of fun to play with as a character. I had a lot of fun taking some of his memorable gadgets and things that he has as a character and rethinking them in some fun and interesting sci-fi ways. I’m trying to bring the character into a modern day and age feel and yet still keep the legacy and look staying classic.

Grail has been a lot of fun too. Again, I think that goes back to the fact that I got to design the character. I feel very invested in her and that carries through in the artwork as you’re doing a book.

CV: How did you tackle the Anti-Monitor’s look and what elements did you want to carry over from the pre-52?

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FOREVER EVIL #7 and CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS #6

FABOK: What had happened was in FOREVER EVIL, David Finch did that last page. He had drawn the Anti-Monitor there. That design was based off of the original appearance of Anti-Monitor in CRISIS, his first look before it changes into a different look later in that book, that we’d seen in Geoff’s GREEN LANTERN run and whatnot. Geoff wanted the character to resemble that CRISIS look. I wanted to keep the character essentially looking similar to that, but I wanted to create a dynamic between Darkseid and Anti-Monitor. Darkseid, while he’s angular in certain respects with his rocky kind of shape, he’s still a very organic kind of character. He’s designed in the same way as a Batman or a Superman where it’s a male figure and you slap some lines on him and there you go. You have a very organic-shaped character.

With Anti-Monitor, I wanted him to be angular and squares and armor and those kind of shapes so that the two have two kind of looks to them with the way their appearances look. I looked at the original design and a bunch of cool concept art from different video games and movies for stuff coming out today. I tried to merge all of these things into a new look which is essentially the original look brought to 2015. It was a character in which in the past, I didn’t really know too much about him. As Geoff explained the character and where we were going with him, I felt so much more invested in the character. The design just kind of came and Jim Lee, I gotta give him a good shout out because in issue 40 of JUSTICE LEAGUE, there’s that whole sequence of him and Metron. Jim just took the design I had and took it to another level. I’ve used that design and evolved my original design so the character has evolved a couple times.

CV: Some have questioned the continuity. Is this just a matter of everyone letting that go and enjoying this incredible story?

JOHNS: Our story is set in continuity. Readers can worry about it however they want to worry about it. We’re not worried about it and it’s not something I’m interested in dissecting. In the DCU, things will all catch up. The continuity is not like day to day but it is in continuity. There is a way it factors in but Darkseid War runs for a while. It’s pretty long.

CV: Are we going to see Simon Baz anytime soon?

JOHNS: Yes, you will see a lot of Green Lanterns throughout this whole storyline. Including Simon, he’s a great character.

JUSTICE LEAGUE #43, hmmm...
JUSTICE LEAGUE #43, hmmm...

CV: Is Batman becoming a New God?

FABOK: I can’t answer that. That would be a spoiler.

CV: I had to ask. How was it drawing that one single panel with the glowing blue piping on Batman in the Free Comic Book Day issue?

FABOK: Again, it’s the kind of thing where you’re trying to hint at things. Sometimes you want people to bite on a hook. You want them to bite on that and start a rumor. In the end, fans are going to be pretty excited about the direction Geoff is taking these characters.

The things that Geoff always does is he takes those fanboy fantasies about comic books and he brings them to life in the comic. Fans always debate different things. They’ll say, “Wouldn’t it be cool if Batman got a Green Lantern ring?” That’s where Geoff Johns comes in. So we’re going to be touching on some of those things in the book and there’s a lot of really cool twists and turns that we’re going to be going down. Fans will be excited. They’ll be really excited and happy with the direction we’re going.

The prologue to Darkseid War in JUSTICE LEAGUE #40 is now on sale. The action begins in JUSTICE LEAGUE #41, on sale June 3. You won't want to miss it.

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#1 Posted by Squalleon (9994 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't wait...urge to read...imminent...have to invent time travel.

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#2 Posted by laabitres (801 posts) - - Show Bio

cannot wait to read this

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#3 Posted by saoakden (1284 posts) - - Show Bio

I am so hyped right now for this story I can barely contain it.

& Cool that we are seeing Simon Baz in the story. I am curious about when he's going to do Rise of the Seven Seas he teased back at the end of his run of Aquaman.

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#4 Posted by Starscream_Vs_You (242 posts) - - Show Bio

This needs to come out now!! I'm so pumped for this!

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#5 Posted by dondave (41760 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by CaptainHoopla (1974 posts) - - Show Bio

Great interview, it got me excited. Geoff said this is a long story, I don't guess he said how many issues this would cover?

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#7 Posted by lamdaddy20 (1439 posts) - - Show Bio

So excited for this arc

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#8 Posted by kilowog52 (858 posts) - - Show Bio

So i assume this still takes place before the current Batman, Superman, and Green Lantern directions.

Is that Seven Seas arc still going to happen?

And the biggest question is- How the hell did Grail get out of the Circus?

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#9 Posted by jackcryan (77 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been waiting for this since the first Justice League comics came out.

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#10 Edited by gmanfromheck (42524 posts) - - Show Bio

@captainhoopla: He didn't specify and I didn't ask. Part of me doesn't want to know. When you know, you can feel the story drawing to a close. But of course we'll find out when solicits come out and all that.

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#11 Posted by HolySerpent (13762 posts) - - Show Bio

This looks good

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#12 Posted by deactivated-5c1d15b8899b0 (11360 posts) - - Show Bio

I am so hyped,euphoric,excited,desperate to read this!!!

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#13 Posted by staypuffed (246 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, reading this makes me so pumped. Loved The Amazo Virus and can't wait for this!

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#14 Posted by deactivated-5c1d15b8899b0 (11360 posts) - - Show Bio

So i assume this still takes place before the current Batman, Superman, and Green Lantern directions.

Is that Seven Seas arc still going to happen?

And the biggest question is- How the hell did Grail get out of the Circus?

Grail escaped in Justice League of America's Vibe 7 during that fight between Vibe and his old brother Rupture,that destroyed part of the Circus.

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#15 Posted by The_Kidd (12524 posts) - - Show Bio

That cover remind me, how come Flash barely does anything in the Justice League? Can't wait to see this play out.

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#16 Posted by StMichalofWilson (5639 posts) - - Show Bio
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#17 Posted by UltimateSMfan (2377 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't it be cool if Geoff Johns does another 2-3 year run on a Superman book and returns him to his pre-52 glory! :D Just throwing it out there :P

Seriously though, giddy with excitement for this book!!

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#18 Edited by jayc1324 (26432 posts) - - Show Bio

He said its pretty long so I'm guessing its longer than the standard 6 issue story arcs, and probably longer than the 7 issue forever evil. Maybe 10-12 issues? A lot of characters and a lot of stuff going on. Should be awesome.

Also, BATGOD.

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#19 Posted by LooneyMoonie (34 posts) - - Show Bio

@saoakden said:

I am so hyped right now for this story I can barely contain it.

& Cool that we are seeing Simon Baz in the story. I am curious about when he's going to do Rise of the Seven Seas he teased back at the end of his run of Aquaman.

Finally! I thought Simon Baz was a great character that for some reason no one ever seems to want to use.

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#20 Posted by deactivated-5c1d15b8899b0 (11360 posts) - - Show Bio

@g_man: Hello G.


The at least two years I had sent a message to you about whether there was the possibility of making an article about Gardner Fox and their creations,we are a few years the Justice League movie come true and it would be interesting to have articles ... is an epic moment that is coming.
Many doesn't know that he was responsible for uniting the greatest heroes of Dc Comics, that he was responsible for the creation of the Justice League and the Justice Society. Created the concept of the Multiverse...he basically created half of the Dc characters.

Heroes

Villains

  • Amazo
  • Amos Fortune
  • Anthony Ivo
  • Blockbuster (Mark and Roland Desmond)
  • Brainstorm
  • Brainwave (Henry King Sr)
  • Bug Eye Bandit
  • Byth
  • Chronos
  • Cluemaster
  • Crime Syndicate of America
  • Doctor Death
  • Demons Three
  • Despero
  • Doctor Destiny
  • Doctor Light
  • Epoch
  • Evil Star
  • Faceless Hunters
  • Felix Faust..............and so many others.

Heroes

  • Atom
  • Adam Strange
  • Batgirl
  • Doctor Fate ( Kent Nelson & Inza Cramer)
  • Flash (Barry Allen,
  • Hawkman (Katar Hol,Carter Hall)
  • Hawkgirl (Shiera Saunders)
  • Hawwoman (Shayera Thal)
  • Neptune Perkins
  • Red Tornado
  • Sandman (Weslley Dodds)
  • Starman (Ted Knight)
  • Zatanna

I know that you're busy,but I come to ask anyway.

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#21 Posted by BlackKaizer (524 posts) - - Show Bio

'Sigh' he didn't think to ask where the hell the flash was at? Seriosuly, flash along with green lantern haven't done a damn thing throughout any of the main justice league events up till now. He's not even in any of the pronotional art for this event....

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#22 Posted by BlackKaizer (524 posts) - - Show Bio

'Sigh' he didn't think to ask where the hell the flash was at? Seriosuly, flash along with green lantern haven't done a damn thing throughout any of the main justice league events up till now. He's not even in any of the pronotional art for this event....

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#23 Posted by johnqestion (433 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice to see WW get center stage. And Darkseid came for Superman the first arc of JL...wonder if Geoff will remember that. But a little disappointed how Geoff has used Flash and Superman at times...and Arthur hasn't done a lot and as well as Cyborg for the last year. Can Geoff talk about the other members of the JL sometimes? You know it's not only about Batman and Lex Luthor. Now we have him possibly as a God. sigh.

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#24 Posted by theaterofdreams (220 posts) - - Show Bio

All hail Darkseid

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#25 Posted by tensor (8672 posts) - - Show Bio

The wait is killing me for this series.

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#26 Posted by wbr17 (3516 posts) - - Show Bio

meh

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#27 Posted by Dernman (26362 posts) - - Show Bio

I really wish they didn't connect Grail with Wonder Woman. I feel they already did this with Fury.

If they wanted a daughter fine but why an Amazon? It's almost like they're setting up a rival which they already have in Donna.

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#28 Posted by dondave (41760 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice to see WW get center stage. And Darkseid came for Superman the first arc of JL...wonder if Geoff will remember that. But a little disappointed how Geoff has used Flash and Superman at times...and Arthur hasn't done a lot and as well as Cyborg for the last year. Can Geoff talk about the other members of the JL sometimes? You know it's not only about Batman and Lex Luthor. Now we have him possibly as a God. sigh.

He came for his daughter, Kano just happened to lead him to Earth.

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#29 Edited by Dr_Harlequin (755 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid has a daughter? Of course he does...ugh...

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#30 Posted by dondave (41760 posts) - - Show Bio

'Sigh' he didn't think to ask where the hell the flash was at? Seriosuly, flash along with green lantern haven't done a damn thing throughout any of the main justice league events up till now. He's not even in any of the pronotional art for this event....

Not every member is going ot be featured on every cover. Hal is at the forefront of the Justice League 41 cover and is also on the cover of Justice League 42.

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#31 Posted by SOG7dc (11368 posts) - - Show Bio

The one thing at DC that I'm currently interested in.

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#32 Edited by omarthmainman (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Very excited for this event!!! Batman as a new god?? (Metron possession?). Hope there's a fight centered around that! I hope Darkseid and Anti Monitor are shown at their full levels!!!

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#34 Edited by Fallingcliffs (5727 posts) - - Show Bio

Sounds amazing.

Curious to see what powers Batman will have if he does indeed become a New God.

I don't care much for Simon Baz, would rather see Spectre show up and maybe even Mxy at some point.

Curious if Oracle will show again too, he seems to show and watch when big universal events go down.

Also, curious to see what the power scale is with Spectre, Oracle, AM and Darkseid? I'm going to put Spectre and Oracle about DS for sure, but AM hard to tell.

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#35 Posted by MaxSavage (186 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is Fadok so proud of his Grail design, she looks like a typical comic book character, her design is mundane at best, nothing to really boast about.

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#36 Posted by AriesWarlock (260 posts) - - Show Bio

Pandora and Fury can take her.

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#37 Posted by Sovereign91001 (7483 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm very much looking forward to this.

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#38 Posted by azza04 (1920 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope Superman isn't missing or incapacitated for the whole of this arc.

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#39 Posted by Jbreen (214 posts) - - Show Bio

I love the New Gods so I really can't wait to for this story. Nice to hear that Wonder Woman will be featured prominently, I think Fabok's design of her is the best I have seen in a long time.

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#40 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

Great news and all but what worries me most is ''Our story is set in continuity. Readers can worry about it however they want to worry about it. We’re not worried about it and it’s not something I’m interested in dissecting '' statement. Many books are already a mess because of it as it is.

Oh well at least we will get to see Darkseid / Anti-monitor punchout. I would be disappointed if this 'Grail' would take both of them down though.

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#41 Posted by JakeN7 (15180 posts) - - Show Bio

Did parts of my consciousness inadvertently leap into G-Man and cause him to ask that Simon Baz question? Seriously, that came out of absolutely nowhere and yet it's the most pressing question I would want answered from Geoff Johns.

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#42 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't wait for Cyborg as Shazam. What, am I the only one who sees that? Billy is saying "say it!" to Vic! What could that possibly mean, you ask? SHAZAM!

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#43 Posted by KASPERCOLE (150 posts) - - Show Bio

The design that Jason Fabok should really be proud of is his re-design for Wonder Woman. Well done sir! This is the design that DC proper and the Finches should have used going forward from June.

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#44 Edited by kilowog52 (858 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: Hey, thanks! I must have either missed that or just forgotten about it. I may have to reread. JLA's Vibe really was a great underrated series.

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#45 Posted by clubpixel (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd said:

That cover remind me, how come Flash barely does anything in the Justice League? Can't wait to see this play out.

who knows, maybe he'll do some surprise where he manages to save the rest

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#46 Edited by COBRAMORPH (1884 posts) - - Show Bio

first off, that half-shaved hair style is just the ugliest thing ever. Honestly, shaving her bald would look better.

I feel personally, that Grail, like H'El suposed to being new-52 Bizzaro, she was supposed to be new-52 Donna Troy. Born at the same time as WW, Donna not being seen for a while, same hair color, would have been better, as Grail will just end up married to that guy who took over Genesis when Highfather died in the 90's. Ruling in limbo.

& WOW, half amazon. Woop-de-doo, wouldnt being half Kryptionian be better? Would Circe being the mother make Grail more powerful?

Why not have just made her BE the Earth-3 Diana, needs any other name than Super-Woman.

Or that pointless, & worthless Pandora.

Or actually make her & Diana be half-twins. Greek myth has several, Herc, Castor/Pollux & Helen & her sister, be twins born due to the mother being with her husband & then a god within hours of each other. Hypolyta coulda banged Zeus, & then took a walk on the Dark-side with Darkseid, & had twins, Diana & Donna. Or Nubia even.

So, if Darky is defeated, well he end up ruling in H'el(l)??

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#47 Edited by The Impersonator (8500 posts) - - Show Bio

Those Justice League covers are making me drool.

Darkseid's Daughter looks dark and sexy.

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#48 Posted by Superguy1591 (7539 posts) - - Show Bio

@dr_harlequin: Kalibak? What? What are you upset about? He has like 6 kids.

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#49 Edited by Superguy1591 (7539 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd: Flash fans should whine like Batman fans did, it might get Geoff to feature him more.

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#50 Posted by The_Kidd (12524 posts) - - Show Bio

@superguy1591: lol, well it was effective, Geoff made their Bat-God dream come true.

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