There's no point in having Jean in battle threads anyways. 
Too many fans that would say she would win no matter what , HAHA.
But, I agree. The OP should specify in the first post.

I usually use the most recent version of a character. Which makes me a hypocrite because I never think Jean has the Phoenix in battles unless stated that she does.
 
I guess the reason is because if every battle with Jean automatically means White Phoenix of the Crown, then it's usually going to be an unfair battle.

"I usually use the most recent version of a character. Which makes me a hypocrite because I never think Jean has the Phoenix in battles unless stated that she does.  I guess the reason is because if every battle with Jean automatically means White Phoenix of the Crown, then it's usually going to be an unfair battle. "

i agree with this 100 percent so bharri please do this

I would respectfully disagree. Jean has had some form of the Phoenix Force for most of her career, so in a way it is like Wolverine's adamantium; while they have both existed without these additions, generally they are also both thought of as having them due to the length of time that they have had them.

" @Donovan Montgomery: I respectfully disagree. Battle forum rules dictate that it's the most current version of a character unless otherwise specified. Besides, the PF is an integral part of Jean Grey and her power-set. However, the level that she is at should be specified, because frankly, the WPoTC is insanely powerful.  "

" @courtney12490 said:

" @Donovan Montgomery: I respectfully disagree. Battle forum rules dictate that it's the most current version of a character unless otherwise specified. Besides, the PF is an integral part of Jean Grey and her power-set. However, the level that she is at should be specified, because frankly, the WPoTC is insanely powerful.  "

The WPoTC? "

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @courtney12490 said:

" @Donovan Montgomery: I respectfully disagree. Battle forum rules dictate that it's the most current version of a character unless otherwise specified. Besides, the PF is an integral part of Jean Grey and her power-set. However, the level that she is at should be specified, because frankly, the WPoTC is insanely powerful.  "

The WPoTC? "

White Phoenix of the Crown "

" @courtney12490 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @courtney12490 said:

" @Donovan Montgomery: I respectfully disagree. Battle forum rules dictate that it's the most current version of a character unless otherwise specified. Besides, the PF is an integral part of Jean Grey and her power-set. However, the level that she is at should be specified, because frankly, the WPoTC is insanely powerful.  "

The WPoTC? "

White Phoenix of the Crown "

.... dare I ask?  *doesnt read much X-stuff* "

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @courtney12490 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @courtney12490 said:

" @Donovan Montgomery: I respectfully disagree. Battle forum rules dictate that it's the most current version of a character unless otherwise specified. Besides, the PF is an integral part of Jean Grey and her power-set. However, the level that she is at should be specified, because frankly, the WPoTC is insanely powerful.  "

The WPoTC? "

White Phoenix of the Crown "

.... dare I ask?  *doesnt read much X-stuff* "

She apparently transcended "regular" Phoenix and held the visualization of a universe in her hands at the end of Morrison's New X-Men run. She is insanely powerful and is arguably a multiversal force. "

" @courtney12490 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @courtney12490 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @courtney12490 said:

" @Donovan Montgomery: I respectfully disagree. Battle forum rules dictate that it's the most current version of a character unless otherwise specified. Besides, the PF is an integral part of Jean Grey and her power-set. However, the level that she is at should be specified, because frankly, the WPoTC is insanely powerful.  "

The WPoTC? "

White Phoenix of the Crown "

.... dare I ask?  *doesnt read much X-stuff* "

She apparently transcended "regular" Phoenix and held the visualization of a universe in her hands at the end of Morrison's New X-Men run. She is insanely powerful and is arguably a multiversal force. "

Wow. "

Ya, it was pretty impressive. "

" @courtney12490 said: 

Ya, it was pretty impressive. "

And yet there were some versions that weren't all that impressive. That's one thing that doesn't make sense to me. If Jean is the Phoenix, and the Phoenix is Jean, why can't Jean always access all of the power of the Phoenix anytime she wants? Why are certain incarnations more or less powerful than others? I don't get it.  "

"

     I have noticed whenever Jean is used in the battles forums, people always ask if she has the pheonix or not, and what level of power. My thought is, if the OP says Jean Grey, it should be assumed it is Jean Grey without the pheonix force.  If the OP want's Pheonix level Jean they should comment on which level she is at (regular, white, green, ect.) or Marvel Girl levels.Agree/disagree?  Or am I just sending out a pipe dream? "

I think that a lot of it is plot-based. How powerful does she need to be to suit the situation? Oh, Phoenix never exhibited any of those powers before? Let's make a new one! "

" @courtney12490 said: 

I think that a lot of it is plot-based. How powerful does she need to be to suit the situation? Oh, Phoenix never exhibited any of those powers before? Let's make a new one! "

Yeah, you're probably right. So, would you consider that plot induced stupidity or just plot induced? "

" @Silver2467 said:

" @courtney12490 said: 

I think that a lot of it is plot-based. How powerful does she need to be to suit the situation? Oh, Phoenix never exhibited any of those powers before? Let's make a new one! "

Yeah, you're probably right. So, would you consider that plot induced stupidity or just plot induced? "

More plot induced than plot induced stupidity. "

" @courtney12490 said:

" @Silver2467 said:

" @courtney12490 said: 

I think that a lot of it is plot-based. How powerful does she need to be to suit the situation? Oh, Phoenix never exhibited any of those powers before? Let's make a new one! "

Yeah, you're probably right. So, would you consider that plot induced stupidity or just plot induced? "

More plot induced than plot induced stupidity. "

Do you think it's weird at all though that even though she's supposed to be one with the Phoenix her power fluctuates? "

" @Silver2467 said:

" @courtney12490 said:

" @Silver2467 said:

" @courtney12490 said: 

I think that a lot of it is plot-based. How powerful does she need to be to suit the situation? Oh, Phoenix never exhibited any of those powers before? Let's make a new one! "

Yeah, you're probably right. So, would you consider that plot induced stupidity or just plot induced? "

More plot induced than plot induced stupidity. "

Do you think it's weird at all though that even though she's supposed to be one with the Phoenix her power fluctuates? "

Yes, but I also think that some of it is just her learning how to harness and utilize the Phoenix Force, as well. "

"i agree with this 100 percent so bharri please do this "

" @Hellos: LOL. Why did he get banned? "

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Generally as a rule of thumb for me unless someone's stating she doesn't have it, she has it. Right now the character is the Phoenix Force.  
I have no problem having the OP correct me if he meant otherwise either way. 
 
This is my point, if the OP doen't want her to have it, that should be stated in the op so it's known what level she is battling at and it doens't have to be asked later in the thread.  And when responding to Jean threads that DO have it mentioned, or clarified somewhere already, don't say "she loses unless she has the Pheonix, then she stomps" (<<not sure if that makes sense) especiailly if your saying it on the same page as the clarification.  It just starts the peonix question all over again and detracts from the battle. 
If Jean is up against street levlers, I think it should be assumed she's not full peonix power level.  Common sense right?  
 
 
@courtney12490    
As for them just giving her new powers/feats for plot's sake, isn't that why they retconned Superman?  lol

" @Edamame said:

" @Hellos: LOL. Why did he get banned? "

Haven't seen him mindless make thread after thread for a while, making me think he got banned. The guy was clearly trolling anyways in my book. There was no chance in hell for a decent debate in any of his threads and it usually started off with JEAN WINS. "