I hope they bring her in the next issue just to dim your happiness :P
 
Damn I'm evil XD


Na, enjoy  the time:D

i hope they get her back soon
i dont want to buy comics if shes not there
its a waste of money

They're not going to bring her back any time soon.  They've teased us with the possibility during the recent issues of Uncanny... Rremember the cover to 511?!

Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel.

that's a given

" Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Vance Astro said:

" Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

"

now ask the question, if she is so useless and terrible why oh why did they make sure she will always return?  Your opinion of her will change nothing, adamantium has been removed, diamonds have been smashed, but the Phoenix always comes back and even helps repair the adamantiumless and diamond smashed. "

"Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

"Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Vance Astro said:

" Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

"

now ask the question, if she is so useless and terrible why oh why did they make sure she will always return?  Your opinion of her will change nothing, adamantium has been removed, diamonds have been smashed, but the Phoenix always comes back and even helps repair the adamantiumless and diamond smashed. "

What does the phoenix have to do with anything it doesn't matter how strong she is her character still sucks."

once again an opinion you are entitled to, but it changes nothing.  Her character is built on growth she does not have to have her whole history ignored to make her interesting, nobody gave a shit about Emma until recently now that she is completely different from the charcter she was introduced as, you seem to think that Jeans level of power is why they keep her around, it is because her power is so strong that she will be around, Emma would be trapped in an illusion by a psi talent with barely any telepathy until Jean took her out of it.  She matters because since Scott has been with Emma most of the Xmen don't even bother with being Xmen Say what you want Jean Grey is also the first of X-women and held that title by herself for years until Storm (the second) showed up.  I have already sited why Jean is so important to marvel because there have been times that without Jean Xmen and Marvel as a whole would be no more.  Get mad at the writers even the writers that don't care for Jean respect her  and her place in Marvel.  If there was Queen of Marvel contest other than Storm she has no contenderes. "

"@White Mage said:

"@Vance Astro said:

"Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

If they had her suppress Phoenix, and get into Madelyne Pryor style magics/attitude/clothing, I would love her more.  However, I have to say that I don't really hate her.  I just wish that she wasn't so nice all the time.  Without Phoenix, she slips into the "doormat" role. "

Oh White Mage, you are one of my favorite people around this place, Jean is not so nice all the time.  She has killed and the fact that she shows remorse is a weakness?  She set off a psi attack that she knew would take out Cable, without a thought of his well being she did it to save herself, she knew that Sabertooth could be sated by her power yet she refused him letting a psychopath remain a psychopath because she was more interested in her personal growth, she allowed Onslaught to rampage even though she was the first to know about his presence, she killed a man that was not himself due to prime sentinel nanotech, but he hurt her honey and she lashed out at him, she totally gave Rachel her ass to kiss because she didn't want to deal with having a daughter, she mind fucked a town to save one mutant, he asked her when would they move again she basically told him when she was good and ready, she completely re-wrote the mind of Frenzy, she enjoyed causing Emma Frost pain and threatened to make her relive the deaths of children all because she was pissed at her, she also threatened Sabertooth with breaking all his bones and making him relive it telepathically after she was done, she without hesitation took Emmas body because she needed it no questions, she shattered and killed prisim without a second thought, she got pissed when she found out that Maddie was back and she got out of bed to go kill her,  these are not the qualities of somebody who is nice all the time "

I like how people says Jean's a terrible character, just dismissing out of hand the fact that she was incredibly important, and her history with the X-Men dwarfs a lot of their favorite characters. Why so bitter? Jean was a good character. Bad writers have written bad stories about her. This is true of pretty much all characters. The fact that she has been killed and resurrected so many times is just bad writing. It doesn't change the fact that Jean was a founding member, was immensely important, and well-written for decades. I respect that some people like Emma better than Jean. I wouldn't say Emma is a bad character though. I don't think she's anything special really, but she's a well-conceived character who has been written well in the past. You need to separate how you feel about the character personally from how the character has been written and portrayed throughout the years. I don't like Reed Richards, and I think he's a misogynistic jerk, but there's no denying he's a good character.

"I like how people says Jean's a terrible character, just dismissing out of hand the fact that she was incredibly important, and her history with the X-Men dwarfs a lot of their favorite characters. Why so bitter? Jean was a good character. Bad writers have written bad stories about her. This is true of pretty much all characters. The fact that she has been killed and resurrected so many times is just bad writing. It doesn't change the fact that Jean was a founding member, was immensely important, and well-written for decades. I respect that some people like Emma better than Jean. I wouldn't say Emma is a bad character though. I don't think she's anything special really, but she's a well-conceived character who has been written well in the past. You need to separate how you feel about the character personally from how the character has been written and portrayed throughout the years. I don't like Reed Richards, and I think he's a misogynistic jerk, but there's no denying he's a good character. "

"@White Mage said:

"@Vance Astro said:

"Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

If they had her suppress Phoenix, and get into Madelyne Pryor style magics/attitude/clothing, I would love her more.  However, I have to say that I don't really hate her.  I just wish that she wasn't so nice all the time.  Without Phoenix, she slips into the "doormat" role. "

Oh White Mage, you are one of my favorite people around this place, Jean is not so nice all the time.  She has killed and the fact that she shows remorse is a weakness?  She set off a psi attack that she knew would take out Cable, without a thought of his well being she did it to save herself, she knew that Sabertooth could be sated by her power yet she refused him letting a psychopath remain a psychopath because she was more interested in her personal growth, she allowed Onslaught to rampage even though she was the first to know about his presence, she killed a man that was not himself due to prime sentinel nanotech, but he hurt her honey and she lashed out at him, she totally gave Rachel her ass to kiss because she didn't want to deal with having a daughter, she mind fucked a town to save one mutant, he asked her when would they move again she basically told him when she was good and ready, she completely re-wrote the mind of Frenzy, she enjoyed causing Emma Frost pain and threatened to make her relive the deaths of children all because she was pissed at her, she also threatened Sabertooth with breaking all his bones and making him relive it telepathically after she was done, she without hesitation took Emmas body because she needed it no questions, she shattered and killed prisim without a second thought, she got pissed when she found out that Maddie was back and she got out of bed to go kill her,  these are not the qualities of somebody who is nice all the time "

"you like Emma now? "

" @pixelized said:

"you like Emma now? "

I still don't think she's anything special, really. I'm incredibly underwhelmed by Uncanny/Dark X-Men/Utopia, so that's not doing her any favors. I am planning on reading Generation X at some point in the next couple months though, and I have also considered picking up her solo series. "

Her name is Phoenix.  What does the mythological Phoenix do?  Dies repeatedly in flames and is resurrected from its own ashes.  Marvel will be milking that for all its worth. 

"Her name is Phoenix.  What does the mythological Phoenix do?  Dies repeatedly in flames and is resurrected from its own ashes.  Marvel will be milking that for all its worth.  "

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Vance Astro said:

" Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

"

now ask the question, if she is so useless and terrible why oh why did they make sure she will always return?  Your opinion of her will change nothing, adamantium has been removed, diamonds have been smashed, but the Phoenix always comes back and even helps repair the adamantiumless and diamond smashed. "

What does the phoenix have to do with anything it doesn't matter how strong she is her character still sucks."

once again an opinion you are entitled to, but it changes nothing.  Her character is built on growth she does not have to have her whole history ignored to make her interesting, nobody gave a shit about Emma until recently now that she is completely different from the charcter she was introduced as, you seem to think that Jeans level of power is why they keep her around, it is because her power is so strong that she will be around, Emma would be trapped in an illusion by a psi talent with barely any telepathy until Jean took her out of it.  She matters because since Scott has been with Emma most of the Xmen don't even bother with being Xmen Say what you want Jean Grey is also the first of X-women and held that title by herself for years until Storm (the second) showed up.  I have already sited why Jean is so important to marvel because there have been times that without Jean Xmen and Marvel as a whole would be no more.  Get mad at the writers even the writers that don't care for Jean respect her  and her place in Marvel.  If there was Queen of Marvel contest other than Storm she has no contenderes. "

What makes emma any different from what she was? she's still a manipulative b!tch and that's what people want out of her, and have always liked about her if she wasn't as popular as jean she would have gotten the boot for her years ago, but times change and it turns out Emma is a far better character than she is, I didnt say that did I about the power? that's what you have been saying. And that would be another lie your taking it too serious marvel would have been no more? my ass the writers write there way out of it, Queen of marvel? use the females who are better written than her, I would give Susan Storm the queen of marvel title before I give to Jean Grey, I would give it to Emma Frost before Jean grey(she's a better character), I would rather see Storm doing better than her."

Like I said Emma is a work in progress her story is static, she became whatever they need to make her the Xwoman.  you brought up power to begin with. If the Mkrann was going to destry all that is and Phoenix stopped it then Jean is a reason Marvel is, of couse you would give it to Emma that doesn't mean Emma is more popular thatn Jean, ask a non-comic reader about Emma and Jean and see who they recognize. "

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Vance Astro said:

" Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

"

now ask the question, if she is so useless and terrible why oh why did they make sure she will always return?  Your opinion of her will change nothing, adamantium has been removed, diamonds have been smashed, but the Phoenix always comes back and even helps repair the adamantiumless and diamond smashed. "

What does the phoenix have to do with anything it doesn't matter how strong she is her character still sucks."

once again an opinion you are entitled to, but it changes nothing.  Her character is built on growth she does not have to have her whole history ignored to make her interesting, nobody gave a shit about Emma until recently now that she is completely different from the charcter she was introduced as, you seem to think that Jeans level of power is why they keep her around, it is because her power is so strong that she will be around, Emma would be trapped in an illusion by a psi talent with barely any telepathy until Jean took her out of it.  She matters because since Scott has been with Emma most of the Xmen don't even bother with being Xmen Say what you want Jean Grey is also the first of X-women and held that title by herself for years until Storm (the second) showed up.  I have already sited why Jean is so important to marvel because there have been times that without Jean Xmen and Marvel as a whole would be no more.  Get mad at the writers even the writers that don't care for Jean respect her  and her place in Marvel.  If there was Queen of Marvel contest other than Storm she has no contenderes. "

What makes emma any different from what she was? she's still a manipulative b!tch and that's what people want out of her, and have always liked about her if she wasn't as popular as jean she would have gotten the boot for her years ago, but times change and it turns out Emma is a far better character than she is, I didnt say that did I about the power? that's what you have been saying. And that would be another lie your taking it too serious marvel would have been no more? my ass the writers write there way out of it, Queen of marvel? use the females who are better written than her, I would give Susan Storm the queen of marvel title before I give to Jean Grey, I would give it to Emma Frost before Jean grey(she's a better character), I would rather see Storm doing better than her."

Like I said Emma is a work in progress her story is static, she became whatever they need to make her the Xwoman.  you brought up power to begin with. If the Mkrann was going to destry all that is and Phoenix stopped it then Jean is a reason Marvel is, of couse you would give it to Emma that doesn't mean Emma is more popular thatn Jean, ask a non-comic reader about Emma and Jean and see who they recognize. "

Because jeans in movies.And the X-men helped during that whole event but i'm not getting into that, Jeans a crappy character who had 40 years to develop but hasnt done very much"

In 40 years she has gone from a girl struggling with her powers to a woman who has come to terms with being one of the most powerful beings ever, we have watched her grow she is nothing but character development, her history has not been altered as far as her being a person, she has not been reinvented to become something she was never originally intended to be, she didn't need to be half naked to make people recognize her, she didn't need every telepath on the planet to die, get depowered or move off world to let her shine telepathically, she didn't need her rival to resurrect her and make a man love her, she didn't need $20,000 just to fix her nose (because Jean was a model), she didn't need to be de-aged from being a peer of Xavier and Shaw to all of sudden being as young as Bobby, she didn't need to strip her way through life to be somebody, everybody loves a good whore, but nobody wants to marry one, unless your ex-wife telepathically compels you to from the center of creation after you have already left her (Emma) for your ex-wife.  She didn't mislead children and get them killed which Emma has a track record of doing.  "

1. Emma has been wearing the same uniform for almost her entire X-career before it was "provocative" 
2. Like i've been saying she comes from the second greatest x-villain team of all time (hellfire club) the only villain group being better was the old school brotherhood (in my opinion)
   
3. People love the story that comes with her an ex villain and manipulative bitch, that does what she wants to get things done, but at the end of the day she still manages to help mutant kind even with sacrafices
4. Fans dont wanna wait 40 years to see a character grow, they want a character they can relate with right off the bat and get into as soon as possible.
   

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

"@Vance Astro said:

" Jean Grey is a terrible character they just won't let go.The X-men don't need her and neither does Marvel. "

"

now ask the question, if she is so useless and terrible why oh why did they make sure she will always return?  Your opinion of her will change nothing, adamantium has been removed, diamonds have been smashed, but the Phoenix always comes back and even helps repair the adamantiumless and diamond smashed. "

What does the phoenix have to do with anything it doesn't matter how strong she is her character still sucks."

once again an opinion you are entitled to, but it changes nothing.  Her character is built on growth she does not have to have her whole history ignored to make her interesting, nobody gave a shit about Emma until recently now that she is completely different from the charcter she was introduced as, you seem to think that Jeans level of power is why they keep her around, it is because her power is so strong that she will be around, Emma would be trapped in an illusion by a psi talent with barely any telepathy until Jean took her out of it.  She matters because since Scott has been with Emma most of the Xmen don't even bother with being Xmen Say what you want Jean Grey is also the first of X-women and held that title by herself for years until Storm (the second) showed up.  I have already sited why Jean is so important to marvel because there have been times that without Jean Xmen and Marvel as a whole would be no more.  Get mad at the writers even the writers that don't care for Jean respect her  and her place in Marvel.  If there was Queen of Marvel contest other than Storm she has no contenderes. "

What makes emma any different from what she was? she's still a manipulative b!tch and that's what people want out of her, and have always liked about her if she wasn't as popular as jean she would have gotten the boot for her years ago, but times change and it turns out Emma is a far better character than she is, I didnt say that did I about the power? that's what you have been saying. And that would be another lie your taking it too serious marvel would have been no more? my ass the writers write there way out of it, Queen of marvel? use the females who are better written than her, I would give Susan Storm the queen of marvel title before I give to Jean Grey, I would give it to Emma Frost before Jean grey(she's a better character), I would rather see Storm doing better than her."

Like I said Emma is a work in progress her story is static, she became whatever they need to make her the Xwoman.  you brought up power to begin with. If the Mkrann was going to destry all that is and Phoenix stopped it then Jean is a reason Marvel is, of couse you would give it to Emma that doesn't mean Emma is more popular thatn Jean, ask a non-comic reader about Emma and Jean and see who they recognize. "

Because jeans in movies.And the X-men helped during that whole event but i'm not getting into that, Jeans a crappy character who had 40 years to develop but hasnt done very much"

In 40 years she has gone from a girl struggling with her powers to a woman who has come to terms with being one of the most powerful beings ever, we have watched her grow she is nothing but character development, her history has not been altered as far as her being a person, she has not been reinvented to become something she was never originally intended to be, she didn't need to be half naked to make people recognize her, she didn't need every telepath on the planet to die, get depowered or move off world to let her shine telepathically, she didn't need her rival to resurrect her and make a man love her, she didn't need $20,000 just to fix her nose (because Jean was a model), she didn't need to be de-aged from being a peer of Xavier and Shaw to all of sudden being as young as Bobby, she didn't need to strip her way through life to be somebody, everybody loves a good whore, but nobody wants to marry one, unless your ex-wife telepathically compels you to from the center of creation after you have already left her (Emma) for your ex-wife.  She didn't mislead children and get them killed which Emma has a track record of doing.  "

1. Emma has been wearing the same uniform for almost her entire X-career before it was "provocative" 
2. Like i've been saying she comes from the second greatest x-villain team of all time (hellfire club) the only villain group being better was the old school brotherhood (in my opinion)
   
3. People love the story that comes with her an ex villain and manipulative bitch, that does what she wants to get things done, but at the end of the day she still manages to help mutant kind even with sacrafices
4. Fans dont wanna wait 40 years to see a character grow, they want a character they can relate with right off the bat and get into as soon as possible.
   

"

Emma is not a character that you can relate to right off the bat, if she were then her character would not be so fluid in regards to her origin being retold three times.  First she is the White Queen an evil old witch woman that is headmistress to an old school she founded but she is now all of a sudden as young or younger than most original Xmen, next she is in Gen X talking about how she was sent away for being crazy (telepathic) breaks out and then builds her life, next she ends up back home and doesn't make her move until years later after her father all but hands her his empire.  we can turn this into one of those Jean vs Emma threads but it will still not take away from Jean Grey being a staple in Marvel and the Xmen regardless of how terrible you think she is.  She has a rich untouched history that is added to not re-written, she is the first lady of the Xmen, was always considered the heart and soul of team and with her gone those are two of things they are lacking, they went from heroes to border line thugs, why Jean is gone.  I frankly look to comics because I am tired of relating to the world, I want to be transported to a world where people are cartoons not people. "

well i personally related to emma right off the bat. We both had similar tactics for torturing and murdering people, we both look amazing in a corset and wine glass heels, we're both highly intelligent blondes who have a snapping sense of humor.  We were made for each other.

I could relate Emma to people I know, but definitely not myself. I'm also from Boston, so her faux-Britishness rubs me the wrong way. I just don't buy Emma's change of character and personality at all. She's a rough fit, and the fact that Scott is in a relationship with her just reinforces my theory that Cyclops has lost it as a character. 

I don't even care at this point, to be honest. Emma doesn't interest me. I'm not reading Uncanny/Dark Avengers/Utopia, and I probably won't be bothering with Uncanny even after Utopia. X-Force and X-Factor are much more interesting/well written, and Im on the fence about Legacy.

read her mini!

I'll get around to it eventually.

do it now, you'll regret not doing it sooner, Karl Bollers is amazing.

I relate to emma because I'm a female.

a dirty one at that

tbh im looking forward to jean coming back, but i dont want her to have phoenix powers maybe go back to the level of power she had before dark phoenix and if she comes back i dont think she should come into the uncanny book i think that she should come back in legacy and have an arc there before returning to the main title

" @pixelized said:

" do it now, you'll regret not doing it sooner, Karl Bollers is amazing. "

I have better things to read before I get around to Emma. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" Some interesting points by White Mage, gerald, Vance & Korg...But I admit I mostly side with Korg here. I was never an admirer of Jean, but I always respected her, and acknowledged her significance; and I surely liked her and respected her a lot more than the White Queen. "

Her significance to the X-men doesn't make her a "good" character.

"

i like jean and phoenix flatout and i feel sorry for the fans to have to sit her and watch her die every 5 seconds continuously because honestly she should of been able to supress those new sensations and cravings for power such as storm did with rogue-storm. jean beyond phoenix is who we dont even see anymore because of that o yes bring her back but dont rush it because it shouldnt be crappy, it should be something that says that jean is here to stay this time not because she is phoenix, marvel-girl or etc. because she is a great character and marvel is really pissin me off right now with what they are doing with all their great characters.

"@Stormultt said:

" i like jean and phoenix flatout and i feel sorry for the fans to have to sit her and watch her die every 5 seconds continuously because honestly she should of been able to supress those new sensations and cravings for power such as storm did with rogue-storm. jean beyond phoenix is who we dont even see anymore because of that o yes bring her back but dont rush it because it shouldnt be crappy, it should be something that says that jean is here to stay this time not because she is phoenix, marvel-girl or etc. because she is a great character and marvel is really pissin me off right now with what they are doing with all their great characters. "

Jean doesn't die every 5 seconds.Don't know what you're talking about. "