(laughs scornfully) I'd forgotten about that scene. I read the first nine issues quickly before I started BatWatch, and I was not picking them apart nearly as much, but yeah, that is pretty ridiculous. I think at the time I read it, I thought, "That makes no sense," but that thought was quickly replaced by, "This is really cool looking!" It's the twelve year old boy in me. I suppose we never grow out of it on some level.
To try to make some sense out of the apparent nonsense, we could say that these blades being inherently magical might not do significant damage to Jason beyond bleeding, but in reality, all of this really needs to be explained. By his own admission, Scott Lobdell is not a writer who really plans anything, so I doubt there was a fully formed justification for any of this...also notice Jason's twenty foot vertical jump which seems even more conspicuous to me.
To be fair though, your criticism that Jason could stab a passing stranger does not hold water. Jason has never, in the DCNU, shown any hostility for innocents, and also, I don't think there were any passing strangers.
As for the book overall, I actually generally enjoyed it under Lobdell. It was stupid at times, and the characters were not fully fleshed out, but they are also not as one dimensional as you say, and their banter and adventures were usually a lot of fun. However, I can understand it not being everyone's cup of tea.
Oh, and no, Starfire and NW have not yet met though they were both at Wayne Manor in issue 17.
@akbogert: @dngn4774:
I borrowed a friend's copy of his Red Hood (considering he reads my Saga, we're even). I realized that the DotF and Court Of Owls crossover is surprisingly wordy, but what caught me off was how Jason Todd and a Talon literally talk it out (because that's what Jason Todd excels at. Talking). Teen Titans #16 was surprisingly good, Red Hood + Red Robin Team Up vs Joker.
What actually caught my eye, was #17 and #18, which were both really good. Almost wished Nightwing and Starfire actually met each other without avoiding one another. They were both really good issues (especially Arsenal's interaction with Damian. I'm a sucker for Damian.) #18 was great because it broke Red Hood down to his core, playing off well with #17. And who doesn't love some good-old-fashioned deconstructionism? I think I'm going to pick up #17 and #18, and wait for a few Tynion issues to run before jumping on or not.
I'm with you on everything. Teen Titans #16 was great because of the chemistry between Red Hood and Red Robin. There were still some real flaws, but it was so much better than most of Lobdell's handling of Red Robin by a mile. I also thought 17 was amazing though 18 bugged me for the extended dream sequence. I am a big fan of Tynion, but RHATO 19 was not a good start for him. It's probably a good move to sit on the sidelines for awhile.
Oh, I specifically meant the actual DotF crossover books. The fallout books were good, but I thought issue 16 was awful.
I thought it was pretty good except for the stupid Joker doll switcheroo at the end.
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