This thread is basically designed to prove that Iron Man is above the mid-tier range. This thread will consist of scans, showings, and feats that demonstrate Iron Man's superiority over many mid-tiers. If I left out any instances I encourage others to add some. You can add showings that prove Tony's offensive AND/OR defensive output is above that of other mid-tiers. I primarily posted offensive feats, but defensive ones are good too (like how Iron Man tanked the very same hit from Wrecker which crippled Colossus for several issues). It is likely that I will edit this original post to add in more instances.
Before we start, I think it's important to define what a mid-tier is. A character like Ms. Marvel, Colossus, Cyborg, She-Hulk, Doc Samson, Moonstone, Thing, Namor, Vision, Storm, Captain Britain, etc. are examples of mid-tiers. These are characters in between street levelers and high tiers.
I also want to establish the fact that Iron Man hates killing and has different power settings on his armor. Unless there is some kind of extenuating circumstances, Iron Man is NEVER punching/blasting with the intention to injure or kill. Especially against allies/friends. If he's mind-controlled or there is clear writer intention that he's going all out, then that's a different story. Being angry or going up against an opponent that he knows is above his power level also is not a guarantee that he's using his full powered or all out attacks. For example, Tony has claimed on two separate occasions that he's subconsciously held back against the Hulk in the past because he knows there is still a good man inside. For the visual learners out there:
Here are also some scans that prove he has power variability with his repulsors and strength:
It's clear that he can vary how much force or power he throws out there and that he uses more or less depending on the character or situation he's facing.
Basically, my intention here is to show that there is usually a reason that one minute he's punching or blasting bank robbers, Captain America, or Spider-Man and then the other minute drawing blood from Sentry, one-shotting She-Hulk, destroying mountains, or knocking out Thor villains.
The first scan is actually War Machine owning Colossus, but he's slightly below Iron Man anyway so I think it's relevant. War Machine blitzes Colossus through some trees and then sends him flying into a rock formation. At first glance, it doesn't look that impressive, but since he was out of the picture for around 4-5 pages, I think it's safe to assume that he was actually briefly KO'd by this attack. War Machine then goes on to fight and stomp Storm before Colossus gets a chance to interrupt. He wasn't really BFR'd and he wouldn't have let Storm fight Rhodey alone. The second scan shown is of classic Iron Man one-shotting Colossus with a casual repulsor ray. Colossus wakes up two pages later, but he's still woozy from the blast and struggles to talk, let alone stand up. It should be noted that Colossus just got done casually defeating She-Hulk too which makes Iron Man look that much higher than them all. The third scan does not show Colossus, but the Wrecker being one-shotted by Iron Man after taking his best shot at him. The Wrecker's durability isn't much to laugh at since he's tanked hits from Hulk, Hercules, Thor, Captain Britain, and even Beta Ray Bill. Although it should be noted that he damaged/dented the armor, they were basically cosmetic damages and kept the man inside safe (note: Rhodes did feel pain from the blow). The fourth scan shows what happened to Colossus after being smacked by the Wrecker.
He's also tanked a slam from Colossus without any damage or pain:
Kitty Pryde phases through his armor shortly after that making him unable to fight back.
Colossus was also briefly taken out by a concussion beam from a Shaw Industries tank which was designed from the same principles of Iron Man's repulsor rays.
Not only does he scream out loudly in pain, but a soldier comments afterwards saying, "that's one down". Piotr is not seen for several pages after this.
I highly doubt a tank has as much firepower as Tony's armor and I also doubt that Shaw Industries perfected the repulsor design as well as Stark Industries has.
Next we have Extremis Iron Man casually one-shotting the Inhuman Gorgon (who is a mid-tier himself), while Colossus struggles to KO him for several pages:
Shows a pretty clear and tremendous gap here in my honest opinion. Gorgon was struggling to stand on his own after a casual repulsor blast from Tony while Piotr had an extended fight with him.
First of all, in one of Iron Man's first battle encounters with Samson, he managed to tank a cheap-shot from him while Tony and company were busy dealing with the Hulk:
Iron Man recovers easily and without any damage, as you can see, but what really makes Iron Man look superior in this issue is the fact that Tony later claims that all of the Avengers present (Namor, Hercules, Wonder Man, Iron Man), were more powerful than him and Samson agrees:
This is the same Samson that went on to fight the Bannerless Hulk to a stalemate for over 6 hours by himself:
These next set of scans makes Doc Samson, She-Hulk, and Spider-Man all look like chumps.
Next up we have Doc Samson, Captain Ultra, and classic Iron Man going up against an Extremis Enhancile (with down syndrome) and as you can see, they struggle greatly against him:
As you can see, Iron Man is only partially armored and he needs both of them to help, however, it's pretty evident that they both get owned and when Tony is forced to save the day once he suits up:
Now, yeah his pulse bolt drained his battery, but ultimately he one-shotted the Extremis enhancile when Sampson couldn't. Plus it was one of his oldest armors. In his Extremis armor, he's able to do MUCH better against an Extremis enhancile (who is actually competent with minor training/experience):
Iron Man goes on to actually kill Mallen and practically claims he was holding back the entire time:
So again, Doc Samson couldn't even damage someone with these kind of stats outside of drawing blood. Leonard is a guy that was practically made to fight the Hulk. Here is another example of Iron Man stomping Extremis Enhanciles:
This section is dedicated to giants. This shows Iron Man's (and War Machine's) superiority over characters with Hank Pym's growth serum (Goliath, Giant-Man, etc.), Frost Giants, Sentinels, and Kree Sentries. These characters become mid-tiers when they reach a certain size since their durability and strength changes based on their proportions.
It should be noted that Goliath has fought and tanked hits from Thor, Wonder Man (he's defeated Simon), and the Hulk. Giant-Man once fought worthy Absorbing Man powered by the Serpent. Kree sentries have tanked hits from She-Hulk, Thing, Namor, Thor, etc. Hyrm survived a multi-mountain busting explosion which brought Thor to his knees in pain (it KO'd him, but didn't kill him like Tony did).
This is a Ms. Marvel-tier villain who was a member of the Dark Avengers and Thunderbolts. She's fought on even terms with Ms. Marvel. After Siege, Moonstone tried to make a run for it, but Iron Man, in his classic armor mind you, one-shots her with a punch:
Judge Marvel, who got his hands on repulsor technology, one-shots Moonstone. Ghost, an Iron Man villain, even confirms it as such:
It should be noted that Moonstone and Ms. Marvel have traded blows and were portrayed as equals in her own story:
The funny thing is that they fought again and Ms. Marvel ended up having to forcibly remove the moonstone from Karla's body in order to effectively defeat her in their rematch. Classic Iron Man one-shotted this character. 'Nuff said.
This next section is pretty long so bear with me on this one.
Iron Man did much better against the HB armor by himself too.
The fact that Carol is essentially spanking the Hulk-Buster Iron Man in Civil War II is horrid writing.
Let's take a look at what happens when Rogue, who at the time had attained Ms. Marvel's powers permanently, was handling Iron Man once her absorbed power from Thor had begun to fade away:
Not only is Rogue screaming out in pain after being blasted and she was so hurt that she lost her grip of Spider-Woman, but Rogue begins to realize that she's outmatched and that even with Ms. Marvel's powers she has nowhere near the raw power to take down Iron Man so she flees.
She's also been stomped by Grey Gargoyle before as well:
She slams him into the ground which does absolutely nothing to him. He then proceeds to kick her in the face which one-shots her. Now let's see how many times Iron Man tanks hits from an AMPED Grey Gargoyle. A Gargoyle that had an enchanted indestructible Uru hammer, mind you.
Now, in regards to current Iron Man and current Ms. Marvel, I can post a couple of instances where Iron Man outshines Carol in performance:
Meanwhile, Iron Man handles Gamora pretty easily here:
Then we can see how Iron Man's blasting power compares to Carol's blasting power:
And then you have Iron Man blasting him:
He seems to hurt him a lot more.
The shockwave/indirect effect from his repulsors also managed to make Carol scream out in pain:
Hell, even the Iron Patriot managed to make Carol scream out in pain with his repulsors:
The funny thing here is that Norman actually couldn't figure out how to properly power Tony's armors. The Iron Patriot suit was much weaker than any standard or normal Iron Man armor since it didn't have repulsor and arc reactor technology to power it:
Here is Ms. Marvel and an injured Iron Man taking on War Machine (who is inferior to Iron Man).
It should be noted that Tony Stark was on doctor's orders to avoid strenuous physical activities and that War Machine didn't feel Ms. Marvel's second hit on him.
In a more recent comic book, War Machine (piloted by the Punisher) was able to take on Ms. Marvel who was actually extremely pissed off at Castle for using her "dead boyfriends toys". Despite being inexperienced and uninformed about her absorption abilities, he still does very well for himself. In fact, they seem to stalemate with Carol fleeing for backup. Here is the full fight:
Later, we see that Ms. Marvel leaves the fight in order to get some backup:
Hmmmmmmmmmmm... Now why would Carol need this much backup if she is capable of taking down a Hulk-Buster iteration of Iron Man's all-new self-repairing armor? I mean its one thing to call in Thing or Hercules separately, but bringing them both, in addition to any and all Avengers available, seems a bit much for someone who can supposedly take down Iron Man armors like its nothing. But what do I know?
To add a cherry on top of all this, this is armor from Stark's early days. It's basically the first War Machine armor created. Carol confirms that it was "Rhodey's armor" and gets extremely agitated in their fight. His armor was confirmed to be from the late eighties:
Since I already did an effective job of showing the gap between Carol and Iron Man above, I'll just leave War Machine out of this and also show scans of her failing to do any damage to him whilst amped by half of the power of a city:
He doesn't even seem phased by her hit either. It's important to note that he didn't want to fight her there.
In reality, the gap between Carol and Tony is up there. In a well-written story, Iron Man should take it against her. Of course, Bendis clearly had different plans and needed to get rid of Stark to replace him with someone more ethnically diverse. Seemed like he wrote himself into a corner.
I've got more evidence that Ms. Marvel is below Iron Man.
Here are scans of Ms. Marvel going up against Spider-Woman:
Let's see how Iron Man fares against them in an inferior armor:
He manages to absorb Spider-Woman's venom blast and instead of hurting him, it helps him. Funnily enough, he moves so quickly to intercept the venom blast that she doesn't even realize what happened. Not even we, as the readers, realize what happened until Tony tells us.
Hmmm look at Ms. Marvel fleeing from MODOK.
Funny, how Iron Man manages to do pretty well against him:
In a more recent comic, he casually stomps him:
It should be noted that he had around 20% power while doing this xD
She's also gone up against Tiger Shark, who is a prominent Namor villain capable of regularly trading blows with the Sub-Mariner, and he no-sold her blows while outside of water:
She later fights him underwater and her "best shot" only stuns him:
She later resorts to using her superior skill and ends up using pressure points and nerve strikes to knock him out, but her punches clearly pale in comparison to Iron Man's:
In a retelling story, Bleeding-Edge Iron Man goes up against Ms. Marvel (who he thinks is a skrull at that time). He blasts at her and she absorbs his repulsors and then beams her back:
She's also been one-shotted by a mind-controlled and blood-lusted Thor:
Funnily enough, Iron Man ends up fighting Thor and saving the day.
And again, this is the same character that literally got one-shotted from a stomp by Tony's Hulk-Buster armor in 2007.
This one is pretty funny too. Here we have Iron Man sucker punching Ms. Marvel and then one-shotting her:
He claims that he never could have done that if she hadn't been drunk, but he only says that because she wouldn't have fell for the oldest trick in the book (hey what's that behind you?). Which means he could replicate this if he had stealth or overwhelming speed.
Let's see how Carol compares when she sucker punches Iron Man in a non-combat situation though:
It should be noted that he was not injured, damaged, or knocked out from this blow. Why is this significant? Well, Tony had just got done reminding Carol about how she separated Spider-Woman from her own daughter due to the Superhuman Registration act and she didn't appreciate that very much. Not only was she super pissed, but she even admits later on that she had not hit someone that hard in a "good long time". She even admits that she hit him that hard because she "knew the armor would absorb the impact".
So he casually tanks a really hard hit from an angry Ms. Marvel without grunting in pain or even receiving cosmetic damage on his suit. This was also a non-combat situation and they were in the middle of a conversation which makes this tantamount to a sucker punch.
Since we're on the topic of sucker punches though, let's compare how Rogue (with Ms. Marvel's stats) handled an ambush from Hercules:
This is the first time that Hercules officially meets Tony:
Hercules thinks that Iron Man is trespassing in Avengers Mansion. He thinks that he's just a robot. Since powerhouses tend not to hold back against robots and he didn't know there was a man inside, much less an Avenger, he likely wasn't holding back like he probably was when he sucker punched Rogue. His blows were so loud that they could be heard outside and throughout the mansion and Thor comes to break the fight up.
Yet, somehow, he needs a Hulk-Buster/bulked up armor to put up a decent fight against her and still lose in Civil War II.
This next section is dedicated to displaying Iron Man's superiority to the Sub-Mariner who I'd argue is more of a low-high tier than a mid-tier, but I think he'd make an excellent edition to this thread. Since they've fought so many times, I figured I'd just go over most of their fights since Tony tends to do better against Namor than vice versa. When I'm going over some of their earliest fights, I want you to keep in mind the fact that Namor was literally portrayed as a powerhouse capable of consistently defeating the Hulk.
In their first fight in Avengers #4, Namor has trouble hurting or even causing cosmetic damage to Iron Man:
Some may view this encounter as proof of Namor's superiority since Iron Man was helpless at the end, but I think it's a good example of how durable Iron Man's armor is. Especially when Tony's power began to run out after using his magnetism on Namor. When Iron Man has low power or his armor is damaged, he gets weaker and less durable. The lower his power, the weaker he gets. Since he wasted all of his power on holding Namor down with the magnets, he was literally taking a relentless beating from Namor on low power to no avail. The reason I posted this fight was mostly to foreshadow their next fight where Tony's armor is actually dangerously low on power and very damaged.
This fight is one of the most telling encounters of Iron Man's superiority. After defeating Krang, a Namor villain, Iron Man returns back to one of his factories where he hopes to recharge and repair his failing armor. The Sub-Mariner wanted to defeat Krang for himself and was upset when Iron Man stole the honor. Iron Man was so low on power that he could not even counter-attack. His durability was at an all-time low and Namor couldn't even further damage or knock Stark unconscious. Eventually, Tony uses reverse psychology in order to trick Namor into throwing him into his lab. He then proceeds to lock a 10 ton door behind him which industrial grade locks. The best part about this encounter is the fact that Namor absolutely cannot break down that door. As soon as Iron Man repairs and recharges his armor he manages to casually kick it down after his first try:
After this encounter, Namor goes back into the depths of the ocean to regain his strength. He comes back for a rematch against Stark, but it's a much different kind of fight when Tony is using an operable suit at full power:
Physically on land, they seem to be equals since they trade blows, but Iron Man displays a better ability to fight and strategize than Namor which leads to his downfall here. After Tony comes up with a strategy to force Namor to sap his energy and keep him away from the water, things seem to be going well for Tony. Namor is stunned from Iron Man's blows, he's swinging wildly, can't seem to hit him, and Namor begins to get desperate. So much so that he ends up grabbing one of Stark's devices which he blasts Iron Man with and Tony is confident that the magno-volt projector was powerful enough to kill them and everyone else around them at the facility. This device seems to weaken and lower Iron Man's power significantly. If Namor hadn't grabbed that device, it's likely that Iron Man would have just flown around and dodged Namor's blows in order to force him to expend his energy. Since it didn't happen that way, Iron Man was forced to improvise and despite being weakened, he still manages to fight off and resist Namor from pulling his faceplate off. As soon as he partially recharges himself, they go back to trading blows. It's obvious that Namor was weakening as they continued, but eventually Namor decides that he'd rather search for Krang and Lady Dorma than fight. Tony lets him go and the fight ends. Had Namor not used one of Stark's weapons to even the playing field, I believe Iron Man would have won handily.
This next fight is my favorite fight between Iron Man and Namor. It displays the quick thinking, versatility, and creativity of Iron Man in a combat situation. This time they fight underwater, yet Iron Man still manages to take advantage of the situation and turn the tables on the Sub-Mariner:
My favorite part is the next three scans where Iron Man takes advantage of Namor's heat weakness and his own versatility:
It should be noted that the whirlpool strategy that was being used on Iron Man has been used successfully by Namor on the Hulk. Iron Man took advantage of the Sub-Mariner's heat weakness and stomped him. By the way, Namor does in fact have a heat weakness as displayed in these scans:
Even against Sunfire, who one-shotted Namor, Iron Man actually no-sold his best attacks:
Iron Man doesn't even need to heat up his armor and grab Namor like he did in the fight four, instead he could just blast him with his uni-beam at 54% capacity:
Namor has been KO'd and weakened by much lower temperatures than 6,000 Kelvin. Let alone 10,000. He would one-shot the Sub-Mariner if he blasted him the same way as Graviton. In fact, the Crimson Dynamo, an Iron Man villain that has been taken out easily in the past, has made short work of Meranno (a Namor villain) by employing the exact same heat strategy:
Even Namora, Namor's Atlantean cousin with similar abilities and power levels, fails against heat based laser attacks:
Meanwhile, in his classic armor, Iron Man manages to stalemate M-11 (his respect thread is here) with his repulsors:
There is even dialogue from Thor, Gorilla Man, and Hank about how much heat their clash is creating.
Iron Man has actually displayed, in character, the strategy of implementing heat against Atlanteans in order to dehydrate them and weaken them for a win. This is an exploitable weakness that Tony is not only aware of, but one that he fully takes advantage of whenever necessary:
Extremis Iron Man displays his superiority to Namor by stomping a deep sea drone that he built and lost control over:
The scans speak for themselves. Namor was getting stomped and Iron Man came to rescue him. This actually makes a lot of sense considering the fact that Iron Man and Namor have always been portrayed as equals, but this was before the plethora of armors that he's cycled through and improved since these encounters. Extremis Iron Man is on another level in comparison to his classic armor which Namor couldn't even break even while being low on power or damaged.
He's even stomped a Kree Sentry whom Namor could not even move. Literally no-sold his blows:
He's also tanked a hit from and one-shotted Orka, a prominent Sub-Mariner villain:
The next fight that he gets into with Namor is another instance where Iron Man is not at his best. It's also another situation where Iron Man and Namor fight underwater. In this particular story, a character going by the name of Madame MacEvil somehow manages to technologically take control of Iron Man's armor which forces him to fight an unsuspecting Namor. One could argue that Namor might not have been taking the fight seriously since he doesn't want to fight Tony at the beginning and even tries to avoid Iron Man and give him some space. Regardless, in this fight Iron Man is portrayed as someone that, while clearly not holding back (because he cannot since he's controlled), is capable of harming Namor. He even looks like he starts to wear him down by the end. Even underwater. Anyway, by her having control over him Tony mentions that his actions are slower and delayed. Not only that, but since Iron Man has to manually close his eye slits for his armor, he is actually fighting the urge to drown while trading a few blows with Namor. He does fix this problem quickly, but it's still important to note.
Not only is he slower than usual, but he also doesn't have the luxury of using his own skill and strategy in this fight. It's just raw power being used without reason or thought. Imagine if Tony had actually come up with a strategy.
The next fight that Namor and Iron Man have shows Tony's vast superiority once again. In this scenario, Stark had four martini's before engaging in combat with a pissed off Namor. Not only was he buzzed/drunk, but once again the fight is taken to the dark depths of the ocean.
The best part of this fight is scan 4. He once again uses the same strategy against Namor that he employed back in his fourth fight. He uses electrical heat to dehydrate/weaken Namor for the win. After he gets Namor off of him and sends him reeling (bad enough that Namor cannot pursue Tony), Justin Hammer suddenly takes control of Iron Man's armor and forces him to open the seals which keep out the water. He is then KO'd and saved by Namor. One thing that is important to note is the fact that Iron Man initially did not want to fight.
His next fight was from New Avengers: Illuminati #1. This was the horrible PIS written by Bendis where Tony was written as a street leveler incapable of using his brain or even harming Namor. Even worse, he had Namor casually rip off his helmet, when in the past, we've seen him struggle to do so against a weakened Iron Man. A version of Iron Man that has been upgraded several times since his classic incarnation. I don't expect Bendis to know anything about previous encounters, storylines or comics in general, but this was completely ridiculous even for him. Look at the consistency of their fights and then look at this one. Absolute PIS and the very definition of inconsistency/outlier. Not even going to bother posting the scans.
Next one is in Namor's own book called Sub-Mariner in issue #2. Basically what happens here is Iron Man blasts Namor with a featless gun, he plows through and tackles Iron Man, Tony proceeds to shrug off the impact and punch Namor off to send him flying, Namor throws a ship at another ship which Iron Man stops with his brute strength. By the time he stops the ship's impact, Namor is gone. Not even going to bother posting this fight since it's so short and doesn't prove much about Tony's power levels. By the way, this was underwater.
His final and most recent fight against Iron Man takes place in Invincible Iron Man #12. This is a fight where, at first glance and without context, Iron Man is portrayed pretty poorly against Namor. However, there are a number of reasons for this. First of all, Iron Man at the time was going brain dead and was not nearly as smart as he was before since he was purging his memory and databases from his skull. This affects the way he fights (although ultimately the little intellect he has left still proves too much for Namor). Second of all, Iron Man was using his Heroes Reborn armor. This armor is an upgrade from his classic armors that he used to fight Namor in, but it is far from being his most advanced armor at the time that this story was written. This isn't really a valid excuse since it should, in theory, still do better against Namor since his classic armors could basically stalemate him physically. However, the real excuse comes into play when these scans are provided of him fighting War Machine an issue before fighting Namor:
This encounter is relevant for a variety of reasons. First of all, at the time, Norman Osborn was after Tony Stark. He wanted him dead or alive. War Machine was technically still working for the government so he was forced to bring Tony in. At first, Rhodey wasn't taking the fight too seriously, but Tony wanted to make their fight look real since he didn't want James to be in trouble for collusion. He asked War Machine to literally pour on everything he had onto him. After his armor tanks War Machine's best assault, he puts the rest of his power into the energy beams which opens up and damages War Machine's armor. Not only was Iron Man's armor beat up and slightly damaged, but it was also extremely low on power. He says that he puts "everything but life support into my palm repulsors" as he blasts WM. That means that, while fighting this version of Namor, who was ordered to kill Tony, basically all Iron Man had working was his life support systems.
Hilariously enough, despite having little to no power and already being damaged, Namor STILL fails to break open or KO the man inside. Even while standing over him and striking him in the same place over and over again. This fight reminds me a lot of their second fight. Except in this one Tony wins by out thinking Namor once again.
The Protector, also known as Noh-Varr or Marvel Boy, is a Kree meta-human from an alternate universe who stumbled into the 616 one. His Kree enhanced armor and technology further increases his stats. With intimate knowledge of Stark's armor through espionage, AIM was able to take control of his Bleeding-Edge armor against his wishes and they were forced to fight.
Should be noted that Iron Man was not utilizing his usual skill in this fight since he was not in control. It should also be noted that it's likely that, despite the fighting, AIM and Hydra weren't using the full capacity of his armor because they wanted Noh-Varr's equipment and body intact for research and replication. Now for the fun part: proving the Protector is a mid-tier.
This scan is effective in not only showing that he's a mid-tier, since Titanium Man is a solid mid-tier and Iron Man villain, but it also goes into some detail about who he is and his history.
This character has also taken on Lyra, the daughter of Hulk and Thundra, before without his armor on:
He's also taken out a roster of weakened/exhausted Avengers (after fighting the Phoenix Force) that included Thor, Ms. Marvel, Beast, Captain Britain, War Machine, Valkyrie, and Vision:
Later on the Avengers get even with Noh-Varr and all hit him at once:
Needless to say, he's pretty durable and powerful. Iron Man took him down. 'Nuff said.
This is a character that also seems to do really well against mid-tiers. However, since it's been established that Tony is no mid-tier, it only makes logical sense that Iron Man stomps Shaw just like the rest.
Scan 1 shows Iron Man overloading Shaw with his repulsor rays. He's not exactly unconscious, but he's on his knees unable to fight. Scan 2 shows Iron Man decking Shaw in the face on low power. Not only does he draw blood from this strike, but it also takes him out of the fight temporarily. He's on his hands and knees trying to recover. Later, for scan 3, Iron Man blasts Shaw in the face with whatever power he has left in his suit. This is a weakened repulsor ray and it still manages to make Shaw scream out in pain. The next two scans show what happens next:
These are durability feats. Again, Iron Man is low on power. When he's low, his durability and offensive ability goes down. He's taking Shaw's best hits and he even gets thrown through several floors of the Hellfire Club, yet he's just fine. The X-Men do arrive to save Tony, but he's literally in another time period in an older armor with no power. He does really well for himself.
Now I'm going to post feats of Shaw doing well against mid-tiers. Many of whom are referenced within this thread:
That's not the first time that Rogue got stomped by Shaw. Watch as he one-shots her while she has the powers of She-Hulk:
It should be noted that when Rogue absorbs power it gets added in ADDITION to whatever power she already has. She always had the Ms. Marvel stats amp, so She-Hulk's stats are added too.
He's even fought against Namor:
To be fair, after Shaw punches and draws blood from Namor, it seems as though the Sub-Mariner is able to overload Shaw's kinetic field just like Tony after getting serious. However, Iron Man wasn't at full power.
These scans just go to show the gap between Iron Man and other mid-tiers like Ms. Marvel, Colossus, She-Hulk, and even Namor.
Next up we have Iron Man owning She-Hulk (and Titania, her villain). He's actually owned Jennifer on three separate occasions. In one instance, he one-shotted her in Contest of Champions with a blast to the back of the neck. After she gets KO'd he's actually concerned he might have injured her. In another instance he flies in an one-shots her with a punch. This is impressive because not only is she extremely enraged and amped (last time she was that angry she was trading blows with savage Hulk), but she was also shrugging off hits from Lionheart (Captain Britain level mid-tier) and ripped a damaged Vision in half. The final instance was written by Slott and although I refer to this as pretty horrible writing (since She-Hulk somehow outspeeds and outskills Tony), I feel that it is worth mentioning. Before the fight begins, Tony one-shots her casually with his repulsors and it's inferred that she was KO'd by this blast since Iron Man tells one of his employees to lock her up in the brig "before she comes to" which heavily implies that she was unconscious. I doubt Stark would have turned his back on her and let some nameless guy handle her if she wasn't. Although she was back up by the time Tony turns around, it's still impressive that he KO'd her so easily while she was angry. The fourth scan shows Iron Man knocking out Titania (a She-Hulk villain that goes several rounds with She-Hulk regularly). It looks like a similar take down as the first scan with Jen.
The following scans display that She-Hulk is slightly superior to Titania, but she struggles to KO her:
Not exactly capable of one-shotting Titania.
The followings scans display Iron Man literally no-selling the very same attack from the very same character that effortlessly one-shotted and KO'd She-Hulk:
He has also tanked a slam from She-Hulk without grunting/screaming out in pain and without any damage:
Iron Man's drone dressed up like his Bleeding-Edge armor also managed to one-shot a mutant named Frenzy:
She's even shown still unconscious in the final panel of the cropped scan I made.
Let's see how She-Hulk compared:
We see her tanking Jennifer's hit like a champ. When Rogue took all of She-Hulk's power, she lost control for a moment and took Frenzy by surprise:
I find it especially impressive considering the fact that Rogue, with only a fraction of She-Hulk's powers, was able to very briefly KO She-Hulk:
I know it may be hypocritical to use this issue as evidence of Iron Man's superiority over She-Hulk when Rogue uses Walters' powers to later tear apart Tony's armor like it's tissue paper, but honestly it was pretty bad writing that she was able to suddenly punch through his armor despite hitting him 3 times without even a slight sign of damage to his suit:
This isn't even the worst part. Apparently Rogue with She-Hulk's strength has the power to punch through his armor like it's made of glass, but when she gets a hold of him before that she even attempts to crush and squeeze his suit, but nothing happens:
She had her shot there, but nothing happened. You can even tell that she was attempting to crush the armor because the book illustrates the noise from her trying to break it with the words "KRNCH".
I might get some flak for the next part I'm about to post in regards to She-Hulk, but in Civil War II under Bendis, War Machine fodderized She-Hulk on accident with a stray missile:
It should be noted that it's been retconned that she was almost killed by the missile, but it still did A LOT of damage to her:
Whether you believe this was bad writing or not, I felt it necessary to add this to the collection. Many take what Bendis writes with a grain of salt, but right there it seems that he felt that an outdated War Machine from the late 1980s was above She-Hulk. Take it as you will.
I'd also like to analyze Iron Man's fight against She-Hulk in her own book written under Dan Slott's pencil. I find this fight very humorous and there is a lot of bad writing in it, but hilariously enough, even while Jen is somehow outskilling and outspeeding Tony, this fight STILL manages to make Iron Man look like She-Hulk's superior in this encounter.
Let's go through what's happening scan by scan. In the first scan you see She-Hulk coming in hot with a Quinjet. She wants to have words with Tony for shooting Hulk into space. Using his technopathic abilities, Tony manages to stop it in its tracks. She-Hulk then demonstrates her frustration by breaking the top off the vehicle, screaming his name, and then rushing over to fight Iron Man. She's clearly furious here which makes her more powerful. In scan 2, Iron Man raises his hand and one-shots her with his repulsor rays. Supposedly these are "full powered", but the important thing is that, as I've already shown you at the top of the She-Hulk section, is that she's knocked unconscious. Sure, it's brief and by the time Tony turns around and starts walking away she gets back up, but it's important to note that he said to lock her up "before she comes to". Now I found scan 3 absolutely hilarious for two reasons: the dialogue and the inability to tag She-Hulk. Apparently She-Hulk was only one-shotted by Iron Man in Avengers: Disassembled because "the laws of probability were going haywire" and because she was going up against "twenty" other Avengers lmao. If Dan Slott had been following the Avengers storyline at all he would have known that She-Hulk was having issues coming into contact with Jack of Hearts and his zero-energy (who was revived by the Scarlet Witch and exploded near Avengers mansion). Anytime she so much as came into contact with him, she'd either Hulk out and lose control of her powers or revert back into her human form. The reason she Hulked out in the first place was because Jack of Heart's energies came into contact with her which made her transform and lose control. There wasn't "laws of probabilities going haywire" or whatever which affected her being KO'd. Those laws of probability simply brought Jack back which then transformed She-Hulk after she became frustrated enough after fighting the Ultron bots that came out of Vision. To address the next one of her ridiculous
claims excuses, she literally went up against 5 Avengers. Five. Captain America, Wasp, Falcon, Hawkeye, and Captain Britain. The only noteworthy Avenger there was Captain Britain. "Twenty Avengers" lmao give me a break. Then, after building up enough speed and momentum to make himself a blur of light, Iron Man somehow can't tag She-Hulk. Lmao the massively hypersonic Iron Man who has flown across continents within minutes, couldn't build up enough speed to get the best of She-Hulk the speedster. Not only does she manage to dodge him, but she also grabs his leg while he's flying at these blurring speeds. Comical. In scan 4, we have some of the funniest panels I've ever seen. She-Hulk dodges, parries, deflects, counterattacks, and just absolutely outskills and outspeeds the same guy that received training from Captain America and has lightning/microsecond timing speed. The best part about these scans though is the fact that, despite She-Hulk tagging and kicking Iron Man around, he's still not hurt by her attacks in any way. He doesn't grunt or scream out in pain, his armor isn't damaged, there isn't even so much as a dent on his suit. However, we we look at this part of the fight, you see that one single punch (from a guy that doesn't even really want to fight) manages to draw blood from Jen. So ultimately, this overly referenced scan which is used to lowball Iron Man actually doesn't even make him look that bad, at least from a durability or strength standpoint. Scan 5 shows She-Hulk slamming Tony up against the wall which, again, does nothing to him. However, he then decides that She-Hulk needs to be taken out of the equation and he uses his SPIN tech on her which depowers her.
Since we're on the topic of the enraged She-Hulk, Jack of Hearts, and Iron Man, I think it's also important to add these next scans into this section as well:
Some might look at scan 2 and think, "how is that impressive?" Well, to provide some context, there is quite a lot going on in between each scan of She-Hulk clocking Iron Man. First of all, She-Hulk is technically amped in this story since the angrier/more emotional she gets, the stronger she gets. She's never this angry or powerful normally. This isn't her base strength. By definition, she's amped. Second of all, she gets even MORE powerful and angry the second time she hits Tony than she did the first time. She-Hulk ends up fighting savage Hulk which only regresses her even further:
She ends up stalemating the Hulk for several pages and as you can see, she is strong enough to make him bleed.
Look just at what Tony had to say about her strength levels BEFORE fighting and stalemating the Hulk:
Another bit of context that's important to note about why half of Iron Man's systems went offline or why pieces of his armor were falling off after the hit could relate to what he was dealing with beforehand as well:
The fight between She-Hulk and the Avengers was destroying the town. As Wanda and Steve fall through a sinkhole created by the damage of their fight, Iron Man flies down to save them only to have She-Hulk slam onto the floor and have debris from a city block fall right on top of them and bury them. It's not until after this, which is clearly what taxed Tony's armor and not She-Hulk, that he went on to tank ANOTHER hit from her while she was even stronger and more angry.
To further demonstrate my point, we're talking about the same aggravated and powerful She-Hulk that one-shotted Vision while his density was extremely high (and after withstanding being phased through), one-shotted Captain Britain and put her in critical condition from a backhand (while Jen no-sold swings from Excalibur), gave Jack of Hearts a bloody nose and then sent him flying through several walls which effectively BFR'd him, ripped an already damaged Vision in half, and broke Captain America's bones (despite blocking her hits with his shield). I apologize, but these scans aren't in much of any kind of order:
So this is the version of She-Hulk that Iron Man tanked a hit from in the FIRST scan, but by the time he gets hit a second time by her, she was amped even further by her rage as she stalemates and fights with the Hulk. Needless to say, savage She-Hulk is on another level in comparison to base She-Hulk, yet Iron Man tanks hits from her and even managed to one-shot her.
When it comes to offensive capability, I'd say that she's a mid-tier at best. From a durability or speed perspective she's worse than most standard street levelers. These next few scans will demonstrate how useless Storm's lightning has been on Iron Man/War Machine armors.
First of all, it should be noted that his armor has thermocouples which are capable of absorbing heat, cold, electricity, etc. and transferring that into energy. It has been confirmed that his armor does it with lightning automatically:
Here are some scans of War Machine and Iron Man shrugging off Storm's lightning without any damages at all whatsoever:
War Machine was also portrayed as completely handling working with Storm's category five hurricane level winds too:
Not only is he able to handle flying and maneuvering around in these conditions, but he's also capable of throwing Colossonaut with accuracy despite the heavy winds.
During Secret Wars, Storm tried destroying Galactus' world eating machine with her powers:
Let's see how Iron Man compares:
Manages to damage Galactus' machine with some flight momentum. Reed is greatly impressed by this feat. Not only does he damage a machine which no-sold Storm's best attacks, but it looks like his actions also took the notice of Galactus too.
He has always been a very powerful character. However, even Kang has stated that Iron Man's "armored might far out-strips the Vision's". In scan 2, 3, and 4 we have Vision failing to incapacitate Iron Man after phasing through him (these instances were all pre-Civil War). In scan 5, we have Regent (who also had Vision's intangibility), also failing to do anything to his technology. Scan 6-7 shows Vision being KO'd by Tony's repulsors (each instance was a page or more of Vision being KO'd). The last scan shows Vision not only admitting that he cannot break through Iron Man's armor and that he needs to phase to hurt him, but after failing to grab an internal organ, Tony manages to take control of Vision and manually reboot him. Sometimes people forget that Ultron created Vision and that whenever someone owns him they are essentially owning Ultron-tech. The last scan shows Iron Man blasting Vision with his repulsors. He is so hurt by his blasts that, as he is on his hands and knees recovering, he instructs another teammate to stop Tony from reaching his helmet (since Vision can't do it himself).