"The Train"? Hmmmm, interesting. Very interesting indeed. Judging by the creatures appearence, I wonder if it has some sorta connection to the Many-Angled-Ones.

I read the whole cancerverse storyline literally a few days ago and I thought that too.

@thedailybagel: so let me get this straight. This version of hulk is showing up in defenders, hulkverines, avengers NRH, infinity wars?

@biswaboxz: Thanks for the tag.

Yea this all looks so amazing. I keep repeating myself but December is the prime month to be a Hulk fan.

@ghostravage I saw you once speaking on this, isn't Surfers board more durable or as durable as himself?

@virtuozzo: holy shit yeah Hulks impact was so hard it bent surfer’s board.

@thedailybagel: It immediately caught my eye and if i remember correctly the board should be pretty tough.

@virtuozzo: I’m pretty sure that surfer and the board are made of the same stuff (Norrin has reformed his board by dripping himself onto it before).

@thedailybagel: @virtuozzo: is this a good feat ?

@thedailybagel: @virtuozzo: is surfers board unbreakable ?

@supermanthor: well if we take it at face value, he hit someone so hard surfers board bent - which is an insanely good feat.

@thedailybagel: well Cool thanks .

@biswaboxz: gotta say the art is awesome

So what do you think about Cable breaking Surfer's board in Cable and Deadpool (2004) #10?

It's a great time to be a Hulk fan. A lot of great content popping out.

Yeah, if we take it without context. But there's something weird going on that makes the board 'goopy' as seen when Namor was on it.

@platinumthorns: Could be, but i think it's just the artwork. We will see, if the board was "goopy" it would be impossible to use it as a blunt instrument.

Wasn't Cable amped there by quite a lot? @ghostravage You're the Cable expert, explain.

@virtuozzo: If you mean what I think you do then yes, it was Savior Cable, the strongest incarnation of the character.

@higherpower: I mean cable was practically equal with surfer at that point in time.

@thedailybagel: Can Hulk show resistance against telepathic influence ?

@biswaboxz: Hulk has extremely high resistance to TP.

@virtuozzo: In what tier ? or how much resistance ? Can u show me some instances if u don't mind ? :)

@biswaboxz: Planetary+ range. He has resisted TP from Xavier, Xenmu, Modok, Venus, Stranger, Inbetweener. And recently as Immortal Hulk resisted Mentaclo who described Xavier as average. You can find most of the instances here http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=571911&pagenumber=1

No, he actually wasn't. In the same issue, Surfer literally one shot him with an effortless eye blast moments after getting serious.

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I know right? It also makes you wonder how much the coloring can affect the tone of the book, especially given how much darker and grim IMMORTAL HULK looks by comparison.

Thnks i will look into this thread .

ooh, what a great time to be a hulk fan right now

indeed whats your score about the new hulk series in out of ten ?

@battle123axe: Holly crap man, welcome back. You were gone for more than 2 months i hope everything is ok?

Anyways i'm glad your back, enjoy all the good Hulk news.

@battle123axe: Hey battle, has been long.

How have you been? Hope everything is good in life.

yeah, it's certainly been a while.

Everything is going great, how're you?

yeah, just some personal stuff, not anything serious, just focusing on some opportunities

It's good to be back, and it seems like I picked the best time to come back.

@theacidskull: Immortal Hulk has the ideal visual note for the tone of the book. There is lingering tension, as many looming shadows around as there are demons in the Hulk's own mind. An undercurrent of fear that makes you feel uneasy, just like in thrillers or horror films before a killer strikes.

Even without the coloring, I'll give a shoutout to Bennett, since my only other real experience with his work was Deathstroke, a radically different character.

@virtuozzo: It was under his own power, but that’s the most powerful he’s ever been. His powers were burning through his body because of the virus. The more he taps into his power, the more he progressively weakens his body. That said... People often overlooks Cable effortlessly entered Silver Surfer’s mind throughtout the entirety of the battle. In my opinion, he could’ve shut Surfer down any time he wanted to, of course, he was holding back all the time too.

@virtuozzo: And yes, according to handbook entries, issue statements and some feats here and there, the board is made out of Surfer’s own body and dueing the Uni Lord story arc, he proved the board is basically much more durable than himself.

@ghostravage: question does im hulks healing factor is superior than likes of wbh and wwh ? ( specially after the recent issue )

@supermanthor: World Breaker Hulk was never harmed so we can’t tell if it’s worse or better. However, we do see Immortal Hulk’s healing factor being flat out ridiculous, so we can safely say is leaps and bounds better than World War Hulk’s Green Scar.

thanks gr for the answer

@higherpower: whilst that’s fair enough, you need to take into account the context that Cable wasn’t looking forward to fighting surfer at all and neither of them were going all out to take the other down, especially in cables case. Not only were they both casually reforming everything around them but when cable wanted to prove how powerful he’d become he effortlessly shattered Norrin’s board and slapped him away. If he’d targeted Surfer himself the outcome could have been very different, they were on a very similar levels but surfer simply wasn’t having Nathan’s shit whereas the latter was only trying to defend his actions, not actively win the fight.

@thedailybagel: Sure, but you'd still have argue that Cable is a borderline glass canon for it to make sense.

@thedailybagel:

If he’d targeted Surfer himself the outcome could have been very different,

By the way, this is wrong. Because Cable actually did attack Surfer and Norrin completely no-sold it. This took place literally the page after he shattered his board. I posted this scan already.

@higherpower: I literally already stated that Cable hit surfer..........

I don’t think you got my point.

@thedailybagel:

I literally already stated that Cable hit surfer..........

I know lol. Which is why I felt all the more need to point out that contradiction. You differentiating Cable hitting him and targeting him made no sense. Because you said Cable broke Surfer's board and slapped him away to "prove how powerful he’d become" (which insinuates he was demonstrating his true strength) but then said if he "targeted" him the outcome would be different? Assuming targeting him means demonstrating his true strength again, then Surfer already showed that he was capable of no-selling that level of damage and one-shot him in turn with an effortless attack.

That is not "same level" to me.

I don’t think you got my point.

I understood what you were saying perfectly. But if we go with that as the official context, it would not only mean Surfer's board is far less durable than him, but it would show Cable as a glass canon. I think it's just better to write off the specific feat of shattering the board as an inconsistency.

That's great to hear. I'm good as well hey. Just finished exams.

@higherpower: I’ll hit you later here. You’re underrating Cable here. Considering the fact Cable was already inside his mind during the entirety of the battle while holding back means he could’ve literally shut him down whenever he wanted to but decided to talk him down throughout the whole fight. They were surely on the same level. A cheap beam to the arm when Cable had his guard down while multitasking on a global scale, keeping a city afloat in New Jersey while being on Sidney/Australia and globally mind reading 99% of the Earth population doesn’t mean Surfer was more powerful. That’s tunnelvisioning the whole encounter when in reality Surfer was focusing Cable whereas Cable was multitasking and holding back for the most part... Needless to say, also freaking dying.

@ghostravage: I think you misunderstood my stance. Keep in mind that the whole reason I entered this conversation was to challenge the notion that Surfer's board was unbreakable or as durable as he was, using that instance with Cable and the inconsistency it gives through showing us that Cable could shatter the board effortlessly but Surfer himself no-sold a hit from him on the immediate next page. That in conjunction with the fact that Surfer one-shot him with a casual eye blast (and I have an inkling that Surfer can tank his own blasts) gives me the impression that they're not on the same level physically. But I never disputed that Cable could have won the fight by shutting down his mind if he wanted.

That being said, he was not off-guard when Surfer blasted him. Cable was literally looking directly at Norrin when Norrin's eyes started glowing. And I guess you can make the argument that he was "holding back" but I mean.... a blast on that level shouldn't have done THAT much damage.

He was completely down for the count. If they were equals in all areas of combat like you and TDB have been implying, that shouldn't have logically happened.

@higherpower: on top of what GR said, you keep missing the point that Cable didn’t try to blow apart Norrin, he hit his >board< and merely knocked Surfer away after. There was clearly one person trying significantly harder to win the fight there and it wasn’t Cable... Cable wasn’t trying to actually harm Norrin or anyone involved, which is evident given what he did to Surfer’s board and how Norrin was completely unharmed despite cable having the power to break the same shit that surfer is made from.

I think my point is very clear that Cable broke the board as a show of strength instead of trying to kill surfer, given that he was pleading with him the whole time instead of following up his attack or even knocked him back instantly given that he proved on panel that he could have done that from the start.

As for your point on Surfer being able to take his own blasts... he’s actually been completely paralysed and defeated by his own blasts before, so there’s that.

@thedailybagel: That position makes the debate circular. So I'll say this—I'm not against that logic, but like I stated several posts ago, that route would mean Cable's pretty much a glass canon in the face of high tier attacks. He can one-shot the same stuff Surfer is made from meaning he can one-shot Surfer physically, but can't tank so much as a casual eye-blast from him.

As for your point on Surfer being able to take his own blasts... he’s actually been completely paralysed and defeated by his own blasts before, so there’s that.

Issue #? I admit I forgot about this, but I don't think it's consistent at all.

@higherpower:What comic are those Surfer v Cable scans from??

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Cable and Deapool (2004) #10.