"If anyone is gonna slap down the Hulk it should be Zeus. "
agreed
Character » Hulk appears in 7765 issues.
"@ Manchine, in a sense i totally agree with you but in my opinion i want to know that when it comes to physical confrontation, the hulk can at least stalemate these individuals, i mean he;s the Hulk after all he is supposed to that shit, but i accept that someone actually put down the Hulk. I havent seen Marvel fans pissed since Venom Stalemated Colossous,hahahahaha but it happened accept it. :P "
"@Rainja said:"@ Manchine, in a sense i totally agree with you but in my opinion i want to know that when it comes to physical confrontation, the hulk can at least stalemate these individuals, i mean he;s the Hulk after all he is supposed to that shit, but i accept that someone actually put down the Hulk. I havent seen Marvel fans pissed since Venom Stalemated Colossous,hahahahaha but it happened accept it. :P "Personally I think these characters levels of toughness really outdo Hulks Strength. Thanos (the weakest of those I mention) might not be able to go toe to toe with Hulk at his most powerfulest. "
As it has been stated, it would have been insane for Hulk to have gotten the better of Zeus even in a pure hand to hand battle. That said, i was a little disappointed that Hulk didn't do better in that fight. but what bothered me more was that Zeus didn't even show any compassion for those that the Hulk was fighting and suffering for, or help them in any way. That bugged me more than anything else.
" Lol. I like Hulk but he really did deserve the trashing Zeus gave him. Jumping around Olympus like he was the strongest being in the universe. He spent the whole of World War Hulk beating some of Marvel's strongest, so it's good to see someone kick his butt. "what he said !!!
I'm happy the hulk got the beating of his life...he deserved it....how in the blue hell can any hero have no flipping weaknesses?.....how absurd how stupid. Zeus knocked him into next week and I LOVED IT. The overpowered hulk finally faced someone who didn’t give a monkeys about holding back. The likes of THOR and the SILVER SURFER constantly think about banner the man inside.
I’m glad Zeus had such thought.
Mr. pak should receive some comic industry award for having the testicular fortitude to put out a comic like this after all ( he is a HULK fan) the man showed a big pair and for that deserves an industry award for this now collectors item.
All hail Mr. Pac
all hail ZEUS
.......FOR ODIN AND FOR ASGARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All of the following sets aside the concept of upsets (without which, comics would have died long ago). That is to say that the comments are based on 'who SHOULD win' a fight, based on their relative "rankings" in the Marvel Universe (at least from my POV).
Here's the thing...it really didn't seem to me like the Hulk was mad at all. Maybe mildly agitated. It almost seemed like he wasn't fighting back/was fine with Zeus pummeling him. I think it'd be a completely different fight if the Hulk was enraged. The eventual outcome would be the same (Hulk should NOT be able to beat a Skyfather), but I don't think it would be done with brute strength (I'm not sure Zeus could amp himself enough to beat a fully enraged Hulk), and it would probably take just about everything Zeus had to put him down (not counting bs moves like teleporting Hulk off into a sun or something).
I'll be the first to admit that my knowledge is far from comprehensive, but my understanding of the Marvel pecking order goes something like this (order from most to least powerful):
-OAA
-Living Tribunal
-Cosmic Entities (eg - Eternity, Death, Galactus, Celestials, etc)
-Sky fathers (should be grouped as the most powerful of the god section, but I'm splitting it for the purposes of this discussion)
-Gods/top supers (human or otherwise)
-Superhumans and other species
- Reggos
- Who cares
Additionally, Wild cards can end up in any section (eg - Phoenix, Franklin Richards, someone weilding the IG etc).
As I see it, regular current Hulk sits somewhere in the God/super level, probably around the top (meaning him vs others around the top are a fair fight). Enraged Hulk should sit atop that section (money on him to beat any of the non-skyfather gods or other top supers), and he should be able to at least make the Skyfathers sweat the fight out.
Should have shown the "Worldbreaker" Hulk instead of the "Fix us" Hulk against Zeus. In Incredible Hulk #634, it is shown that if the Worldbreaker were to not hold back, him battling the Red She Hulk literally blows up a planet. They disintegrate an amped Fin Fang Foom with their impact and the release of their gamma radiation alone. Zeus should have had trouble at first fighting the Hulk physically. Don't get me wrong,the outcome would still be the same, but Zeus should have won by other means besides punching the hulk until he bled out green blood.....
@yumyumbubblegum: World Breaker wouldn't have ended any differently because Hulk fighting Zeus is like you or me trying to fist fight a hurricane. Hulk would have to be as pissed as he could possibly be and remain so for a thousand years to build up the ammount of strength required to make this a fair fight, let alone actually win
@joshmightbe: I wouldn't say Hulk would win (far from it), but because Zeus agreed to a fist fight, Worldbreaker would have done more damage compared to a whimpering Banner Hulk.
I was really upset and cried for days. Hulk really got owned bad. I felt like Marvel took away my manhood. All those times I said Hulk was strongest... I was just lying to myself... to hide my insecurities as a man. Now I only read DC comics, about Superman. I am also now a women. Thats how I feel about the whipping Hulk got.
I was really upset and cried for days. Hulk really got owned bad. I felt like Marvel took away my manhood. All those times I said Hulk was strongest... I was just lying to myself... to hide my insecurities as a man. Now I only read DC comics, about Superman. I am also now a women. Thats how I feel about the whipping Hulk got.Wait... you were so upset you split into several women? :P
The fight made sense. They both have access to unlimited amounts of power. Hulk can only use his for strength. Zeus can use his for pretty much anything. Now Hulk is very powerful and can BECOME even more powerful but it isn't always instantaneous. Zeus on the other hand has no such limitations. If he wants to he can and did become more powerful than the Hulk physically. Hulk could get to that level, just not as fast.
Zeus deserved it. BTW i mean like he should win it because he is much stronger then the hulk. With the chain to the rock thing the reason he couldn't heal is because his flesh couldn't heal together because there was a well... rock in the way.
I'd say something about it, but I think all(or at least most) of what needed to be said was said about 8 months ago.
I agree with everyone who said Zeus should win but it would have been a better comic if the fight lasted a little bit longer and the Hulk got in a few more shots.
@Blob said:
I hated it. It's not right to make one of your most popular and most powerful heroes look so pathetic like that. They should have at least given him some good effective hits.
Why? There needs to be clear boundaries on Hulk's abilities and combat prowess. He was behaving like an ignorant child, and Zeus treated him as such.
Ouch@Blob said:
I hated it. It's not right to make one of your most popular and most powerful heroes look so pathetic like that. They should have at least given him some good effective hits.
Why? There needs to be clear boundaries on Hulk's abilities and combat prowess. He was behaving like an ignorant child, and Zeus treated him as such.
@Blob said:
@Illuminatus: @Manchine: Maybe it's just the major Hulk fanboy in me talking but the character that is supposed to be one of if not your strongest hero and see him get beat down like that is not like the Hulk at all. It's like if they took Batman and made him look mentally dumb.
It's not like that at all. Batman has been outwitted by several different characters and Hulk is hardly has strong as people give him credit for.
@Blob said:
@Illuminatus: @Manchine: Maybe it's just the major Hulk fanboy in me talking but the character that is supposed to be one of if not your strongest hero and see him get beat down like that is not like the Hulk at all. It's like if they took Batman and made him look mentally dumb.
Hulk is suppose to be the Strong HUMAN there is. There are people that are FAR stronger then him. Galactus for instance which Zues is just a step below Galactus in terms of power.
@Blob said:
@Illuminatus: I realize that but Batman has never been shown to be dumb to the point of him being pathetic where as Hulk's "fight" with Zeus made him look like a pathetic weakling.
Um, how exactly? The fact that Hulk stood up to a sky-father speaks volumes about his courage, even if it is blind stupidity.
@Illuminatus said:
@Blob said:
@Illuminatus: I realize that but Batman has never been shown to be dumb to the point of him being pathetic where as Hulk's "fight" with Zeus made him look like a pathetic weakling.
Um, how exactly? The fact that Hulk stood up to a sky-father speaks volumes about his courage, even if it is blind stupidity.
I already knew about Hulk's courage before that happened and it made him look weak because he didn't even get 1 hit.
@Blob said:
@Illuminatus said:
@Blob said:
@Illuminatus: I realize that but Batman has never been shown to be dumb to the point of him being pathetic where as Hulk's "fight" with Zeus made him look like a pathetic weakling.
Um, how exactly? The fact that Hulk stood up to a sky-father speaks volumes about his courage, even if it is blind stupidity.
I already knew about Hulk's courage before that happened and it made him look weak because he didn't even get 1 hit.
He got a few solid hits in and even threw Zeus off his game for a second. After that, Zeus was pissed and unleashed some pent up aggression on him.
@Blob said:
@Manchine: Even still Galactus is one of the biggest extremes you could go to out there. He is the freakin' eater of worlds! But I am happy because Hulk has survived a hit from Galactus before as well which shows that he may be even more durable then he is strong? Possibly.
Hulk has survived a hit from Zues. These beings are above earthly characters and hulk is still an earthly character.
@Manchine said:
@Blob said:
@Manchine: Even still Galactus is one of the biggest extremes you could go to out there. He is the freakin' eater of worlds! But I am happy because Hulk has survived a hit from Galactus before as well which shows that he may be even more durable then he is strong? Possibly.
Hulk has survived a hit from Zues. These beings are above earthly characters and hulk is still an earthly character.
The Hulk fanboys should realize that Hulk surviving that encounter showcases his durability more than almost any other encounter Hulk has been involved in.
@Illuminatus said:
@Manchine said:
@Blob said:
@Manchine: Even still Galactus is one of the biggest extremes you could go to out there. He is the freakin' eater of worlds! But I am happy because Hulk has survived a hit from Galactus before as well which shows that he may be even more durable then he is strong? Possibly.
Hulk has survived a hit from Zues. These beings are above earthly characters and hulk is still an earthly character.
The Hulk fanboys should realize that Hulk surviving that encounter showcases his durability more than almost any other encounter Hulk has been involved in.
Lets put it this way also. If Superman took Hulks Spot. Same thing would happen. It has nothing to do with how powerful Hulk is. It's just how much power Zues has.
@Blob: I've been reading Hulk for nearly 26 years now and he's never once shown any indication that he could take a sky father, it's not like he jobbed to some loser it was the freaking king of Olympus, a guy who sucker punched Galactus and actually knocked him back, a guy who frightens actual demons. The fact that Hulk survived at all is a statement about his power.
Sigh just get over it, it wasn't that bad it wasn't that great, one single fight doesn't determine a character true ability, just get over it. Also if I remember correctly he mostly wanted to save his family which is why he tried to ''sacrifice'' himself toward the end. Though vomiting blood was a bit pathetic but w/e.
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