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    An international group of the world's social elite run by mutants that consider themselves superior to other mutants in both their mutant abilities and social status.

    Selene or Emma?

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    #1  Edited By Djinn

    Which one of these do you like the most, and which one would win in a fight. Personally i like Selene more and think she would win, even though i havent read alot of comcis with her in it. And so i wont have to make another topic is she really 10,000 years old, it says that on comicvine and thats old

    is she older than apocalypse 
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    #2  Edited By John Valentine
    Djinn said:
    "Which one of these do you like the most, and which one would win in a fight. Personally i like Selene more and think she would win, even though i havent read alot of comcis with her in it. And so i want have to make another topic is she really 10,000 years old, it says that on comicvine and thats old
    is she older than apocalypse 
    "
    If she is 10000 years old, then yes. Apoc is like 5000, give or take 500 years.
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    #3  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Emma.Diamond form K.O FTW

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    #4  Edited By grkpektis

    Selene is a great character, I hate emma every time I see her in a comic I hope someone punches her.  Selene is also a lot more powerful

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    #6  Edited By WARLOCK2792

    Selene= Essence vampire, witchcraft, blinding superhuman speed, witchcraft, serious superhuman speed, and more witchcraft.

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    #7  Edited By pixelized
    grkpektis said:
    "Selene is a great character, I hate emma every time I see her in a comic I hope someone punches her.  Selene is also a lot more powerful"
    no you don't you billy goat
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    #8  Edited By bioghost

    Selene

    How can you deny her?

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    #9  Edited By WARLOCK2792
    pixelized said:
    "grkpektis said:
    "Selene is a great character, I hate emma every time I see her in a comic I hope someone punches her.  Selene is also a lot more powerful"
    no you don't you billy goat"
    LOL I used to hate Emma.  But no longer. 
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    #10  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    bioghost said:
    "Selene

    How can you deny her?"
    Because she looks like Marilyn Manson.
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    #11  Edited By pixelized
    White Mage said:
    "pixelized said:
    "grkpektis said:
    "Selene is a great character, I hate emma every time I see her in a comic I hope someone punches her.  Selene is also a lot more powerful"
    no you don't you billy goat"
    LOL I used to hate Emma.  But no longer. "
    why'd you hate her?? I think people that dislike Emma now have issues in their childhood they need to sort out.
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    #12  Edited By bioghost
    Vance Astro said:
    "bioghost said:
    "Selene

    How can you deny her?"
    Because she looks like Marilyn Manson."

    looking at marilyn manson and back to selene and back to mm.  OH MY GOD!! SHE DOES
    okay emma for the first one but selene in battle
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    #13  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
    pixelized said:
    "White Mage said:
    "pixelized said:
    "grkpektis said:
    "Selene is a great character, I hate emma every time I see her in a comic I hope someone punches her.  Selene is also a lot more powerful"
    no you don't you billy goat"
    LOL I used to hate Emma.  But no longer. "
    why'd you hate her?? I think people that dislike Emma now have issues in their childhood they need to sort out."
    Thats ridiculous...just because you dont like a stupid character doesnt mean you have issues lol
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    #14  Edited By pixelized

    Imagine if i were serious.

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    #15  Edited By WARLOCK2792
    pixelized said:
    "Imagine if i were serious."
    LOL I hated Emma because I disliked her move into X-Men.  It felt like she was there in place of Jean Grey.  But now, I appreciate her a bit more.
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    #16  Edited By pixelized

    Into the X-men group, or transitioning into hero?

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    #17  Edited By WARLOCK2792
    pixelized said:
    "Into the X-men group, or transitioning into hero?"
    Both.  It felt strange at first.
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    #18  Edited By pixelized

    I gotcha... i just always felt she was a little... misguided.

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    #19  Edited By Acheron

    I've never liked Emma, but I always felt that the writer's wanted me to hate her so :l

    That being said......she's probably better than Selene (from my "experience")

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    #20  Edited By IcePrince_X

    Selene is more powerful than Emma whether Emma is a telepath or in diamond form. Selene has full control of organic substance, vast psionic skills and magic. What ever mind powers Emma has Selene can dodge, she had single-handlely defeated Rachel Summers and Magma.

    Sebastian Shaw fears her as he knows that anytime she can kill most of the members of the Hellfire Club.

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    #21  Edited By Korg

    Selene for both. Emma wouldn't be able to touch her in a fight. Selene has TK and super speed. Emma is outclassed here.

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    #22  Edited By AngelFrost

    Emma is a very, powerful telepath, Omega level Telepath.
    So in a battle of brains yes.

    But not against Selens other powers.

    Anyway, I like Emma more!
    (:

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    #23  Edited By IcePrince_X

    I posted this before in a our contest and I will post it again...

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    #24  Edited By spellslinger

    emma even new dat selene could beat her
    thats y she trained firestar

    plus emma may be an very powerful telepath but selene is much more experienced with like 10,000 years of experience she probably has astral plane techniques most other telepaths havent discovered yet. plus magic 9once again, 10,000 years of experience) plus like all her other powers and a death touch
    f the hellfire club members in an instant

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    #25  Edited By unicorn84

    @spellslinger:
    Yes. Emma is technically and naturally a superior telepath but  Selene is far more Machevallian character and has so many other abilities. I wouldnt put Selene above sucking the lifeforce outta an infant.

     

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    #26  Edited By cammy1291

    wow selene is so underrated

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    #27  Edited By Vallary

    Emma is waaay sexier. But Selene is stronger. And for the picture above - read comics, Selene is obsessed with Frost and she admitted steeling Emma's idea of having a bunch of students that are ready to die for you and love you. She is so trying to be like Emma it's sad. Even in their Hellfire Club times she was always in the shadow of Emma - never noticed by guys, always behind Shaw. Emma uses every bit of her powers and knowledges in interesting ways. Selene is almost almighty but she has absolutely no clue what to do, she is bored and makes some uninteresting moves.
    In X-Force 11 Selene is VERY feminine and attractive, god, if I were Eli Bard, I would not betray such a woman, but now this whole oldschool Hellfire Club look is boring and too vulgar. Not feminine, more like a transvestite. Emma did a right thing to forget this horrible rags like it was a nightmare and slip into sexier clothes. Selene didn't. So - like Selene if drawn by Alina Urusov. Like Emma always and forever - she is not immortal or boring all-powerful, but smart, sexy, dramatic character with great personality. You don't see that she is awesome and complicated, you should probably go cry over Jean Grey or something.

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    #28  Edited By Vallary
    @AngelFrost: She is an omega-class telepath, not an omega level mutant
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    #29  Edited By AngelFrost
    @Vallary:  Which is what I said. O_o  maybe you should read my comment properly.
     

    @AngelFrost said:
    " Emma is a very, powerful telepath, Omega level Telepath.
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    #30  Edited By Vallary
    @AngelFrost said:

    " Emma is a very, powerful telepath, Omega level Telepath.So in a battle of brains yes.But not against Selens other powers.Anyway, I like Emma more!(: "

    =) "Omega-level" is always a mutant thing, "omega-class" is a telepathy thing)
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    #31  Edited By Airhead

    Selene would killlll her
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    #32  Edited By Chane

    It's an "or"? ;o)

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    #33  Edited By Ryonslaught
    @Vance Astro said:
    " bioghost said:
    "Selene

    How can you deny her?"
    Because she looks like Marilyn Manson. "
    LOL
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    #35  Edited By kiss_lamia

    Selene would win eventually while emma may be a stronger telepath than selene, selene brings more to the mix. Selene on telepathy alone would perhaps find emma a challenge but as soon as you add her other powers, not to mention her sorcery then i think emma would be the one doing the running away lol!

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    #36  Edited By Magian

    For the battle, I think Selene wins.

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    #38  Edited By kiss_lamia
    @Edamame said:

    " @kiss_lamia said:

    " Selene would win eventually while emma may be a stronger telepath than selene, selene brings more to the mix. Selene on telepathy alone would perhaps find emma a challenge but as soon as you add her other powers, not to mention her sorcery then i think emma would be the one doing the running away lol! "
    Exactly. Selene uses her telepathy in other ways, like magically and mystically.  Ways that Emma would never dream of.  = D  Emma has used her telepathy more often than Selene though. "
    yeah plus if Selene feeds on her even a little bit she gains some control over her victim (think what she did to trevor fitzroy), so if she fed on emma even just a bit, that would give her enough of an advantage to perhaps beat her!
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    #40  Edited By kiss_lamia
    @Edamame said:
    " @kiss_lamia said:
    " @Edamame said:

    yeah plus if Selene feeds on her even a little bit she gains some control over her victim (think what she did to trevor fitzroy), so if she fed on emma even just a bit, that would give her enough of an advantage to perhaps beat her! "
    Precisely. Emma could only possible win if she were blood lusted and ended the battle quickly. "
    but even then Selene could just teleport away :P
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    #42  Edited By kiss_lamia
    @Edamame said:
    " @kiss_lamia said:
    " @Edamame said:
    " @kiss_lamia said:
    " @Edamame said:

    yeah plus if Selene feeds on her even a little bit she gains some control over her victim (think what she did to trevor fitzroy), so if she fed on emma even just a bit, that would give her enough of an advantage to perhaps beat her! "
    Precisely. Emma could only possible win if she were blood lusted and ended the battle quickly. "
    but even then Selene could just teleport away :P "
    That is true.   Selene is too powerful for Emma to completely dominate. Especially in the first couple of seconds in the battle. "
    and lets not forget if selene was quick enough emma incased in rock, i love it when she did that to shaw he pooed his pants lol
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    #44  Edited By kiss_lamia
    @Edamame said:
    " @kiss_lamia said:
    " @Edamame said:

    and lets not forget if selene was quick enough emma incased in rock, i love it when she did that to shaw he pooed his pants lol "
    LOL   Do you have scans showing this? "
    ill see if i can find one of it! its pretty old so might take me a while.
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    #46  Edited By kiss_lamia
    @Edamame said:
    " @kiss_lamia said:
    " @Edamame said:
    " @kiss_lamia said:
    " @Edamame said:

    and lets not forget if selene was quick enough emma incased in rock, i love it when she did that to shaw he pooed his pants lol "
    LOL   Do you have scans showing this? "
    ill see if i can find one of it! its pretty old so might take me a while. "
    Thanks, Queen Selene. LOL "
    your quite welcome darling lol no luck yet but ill keep looking through my archives lol
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    #48  Edited By kiss_lamia
    @Edamame said:
    " @kiss_lamia: I just had a random thought.  Imagine Selene in a Twilight film or something of the like. LOL "
    id rather not lol it would just be so cheap and terrible i don't even what to think about it lol
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    #49  Edited By ChadwickDavis
    @IcePrince_X said:
    "Selene is more powerful than Emma whether Emma is a telepath or in diamond form. Selene has full control of organic substance, vast psionic skills and magic. What ever mind powers Emma has Selene can dodge, she had single-handlely defeated Rachel Summers and Magma. Sebastian Shaw fears her as he knows that anytime she can kill most of the members of the Hellfire Club. "

    Actually Emma Frost has beaten Rachel one on one as well, and Selene has had her butt kicked by Rachel 
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    #50  Edited By kiss_lamia
    @ChadwickDavis said:

    " @IcePrince_X said:

    "Selene is more powerful than Emma whether Emma is a telepath or in diamond form. Selene has full control of organic substance, vast psionic skills and magic. What ever mind powers Emma has Selene can dodge, she had single-handlely defeated Rachel Summers and Magma. Sebastian Shaw fears her as he knows that anytime she can kill most of the members of the Hellfire Club. "
    Actually Emma Frost has beaten Rachel one on one as well, and Selene has had her butt kicked by Rachel  "
    not really selene and rachel never realyl got to finish there fights they were always interupted on most counts
     
    and as i promised selene making shaw poo his pants lol
     
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