Hawkgirl is like a non-factor on this site
She gets beat in every battle
Being one of the founding members of the JL I think she needs to be more powerful than she being protrayed
Do you think Hawkgirl deserves some type of upgrade in the New 52?
Character » Hawkgirl appears in 1694 issues.
@zhurong: She's not a founding JL member except in the (imo) highly overrated DCAU.
A version of Hawkgirl is in Earth-2 if you're interested.
@sovereign91001: I love the DCAU :( the original 7 was awesome
I think the newer members like Barry and Hal sucks
But Hawkgirl deserves better recognition then she is getting she was a good character on the JL cartoon
@zhurong: I'm not knocking the DCAU I just think it's very overrated. Barry and Hal were two of the original seven founding members of the League though. Hawkgirl was not. Anyway imo she's potrayed just fine in Earth-2.
What she needs is a separation from the flying caveman, Earth-2 so far has been brilliant at that... But I fear that might all be lost with the addition of Taylor and Batman.
Attempts have been made to profit on the JL/JLU show, but I think Starcrossed and it's fallout damaged her a bit as well. Plus fans of the show and the rather simple backstory, had to come face to face with the incomprehensible mess that is the hawks backstory. (not to mention the Hawkgirl solo book wasn't Shayera, she was somewhere in outer space where she ended up dead because of Blackfire).
@outside_85: She needs a mace that can contend with Thor's hammer in my opinion then just maybe she will be a threat
Just because a character loses battles on this forum doesn't mean they need an upgrade. As long as she's good in the actual comics everything should be fine.
@zhurong: you are so misinformed it's insulting
@zhurong: That's a little more than you can logically expect her to get. Around here (in battle threads) she just needs to no be put against things that's out of her league. Also, one needs to remember that comics and cartoons aren't equal one another, and sadly I dont recall Hawkgirl (any of them) having a mace that disrupted magic or had an electric discharge.
@decoyelite: No it just the fact she look like a low tier character in the comics and seems to be the weakest of the founding members in DCAU
@zhurong: Why does that matter though? Does it suddenly make her a worse character?
@zhurong: you are so misinformed it's insulting
How exactly is i am? Just because I think she deserves to be more powerful? Its the truth she has no real feats or anything she is useless as far as Im concerned
@outside_85: well maybe she shouldnt be apart of the JL since even a street leveler could probably beat her
@zhurong: That's not the logic the cartoons creators were working under when they made the show (besides they'd have to throw out the non-powered Batman as well since he is just a human, while the Thanagarian is stronger and more durable).
@zhurong: that's not what i meant. you don't know where she first appeared, on what team she was and when she was, you only know of her animated version, you called barry and hal newer members but guess what they were the original members of the jl without batman. even after he joined he was a reserve. and you are butthurt because she doesnt have better showings in the comics. 2 things: 1. she is a C lister at best. the question is more popular. 2 read jl volume 3. in the meantime
@outside_85: Batman can beat anybody so that logic doesn't work
@zhurong: No, he can't.
@sovereign91001: He got plans to defeat each member of the Justice League #NuffSaid
@outside_85: Batman can beat anybody so that logic doesn't work
Not really.
@zhurong: no swearing and no again. you made several huge mistakes. i dont even think you read comics. you are just another butthurt fanboy that your favorite character from a tv show from 8 years ago isnt ruling the dc universe. and no yet again batman doesnt beat everybody. he gets the snot beat out of him from time to time, but you would know that if you read comics. i reiterate my first statement
@decoyelite: You just mad cause your favorite hero can't beat the JL
@zhurong: No, Batman can't beat everyone, he gives the others a better chance of winning in some cases during the show, but he wasn't Morrisons Batgod. Case in point; The Imperium's ghoulies overpowered him pretty easily on two separate occasions, he was useless against Hades and Darkseid and he got floored by a rank and file Amazon that later brought him low with her 'Man-flu'.
Hawkgirl's reasons for being on the show, was partially to add more diversity (with a spanish-speaking voice-actress) and to have another woman on the team, instead of adding Aquaman or Hawkman.
@zhurong: And? I can make a plan to outfight Anderson Silva but that means little as I'm not in his League (haha) when it comes to ability.
Batman can make all the plans he wants and taking out the Batpandering in Tower of Babel and nearly any member of the League can take out Batman. The whole Batman wins 'cause he's Batman/he has prep' is a fallacy that needs to die, the sooner the better.
@zhurong: Spider-Man? I'd be pretty annoyed if someone thought he could be the JL.
I don't measure my enjoyment of a character by who they can beat, most of my favs are low tier or outright not even really super heroes.
@thetimestreamer: I do read comics thank you I just prefer shows and movies by the way Im not butthurt nor a fanboy I just think Hawkgirl need better showings and also you just mad cause your favorite hero cant beat the JL
@sovereign91001: He got plans to defeat each member of the Justice League #NuffSaid
Assuming you mean the stuff from the Tower of Babel story arc you should know that they actually bounced back from said plans.
Also he doesn't know every superhero as well as he knows his fellow JL members.
@thetimestreamer: I do read comics thank you I just prefer shows and movies by the way Im not butthurt nor a fanboy I just think Hawkgirl need better showings and also you just mad cause your favorite hero cant beat the JL
what are you talking about?
@outside_85: give me a reason for your favorite hero being able to beat the JL
oh okay Batman is God so stop hating
@zhurong: Strange, I just wrote three lines worth of explaining why Batman couldn't beat everyone and even provided examples of him getting his ass kicked on the show.
As for your first question, my favorite happens to be Raven, depending on what version of her you choose to use she can send them all to hell or leave 6 of them as drooling imbeciles if not frozen in time.
@decoyelite: Agreed.
@web_flotsam: almost non-existent
@thetimestreamer: Considering I had never heard of her before I watched the show, that sounds about right.
@web_flotsam: if you want to read a book with her and the jl, she is in the first 10-15 numbers of justice league of america volume 3. vixen too. but dont expect the john stuart-hawgirl-vixen triangle of love. they've never met to my knowledge.
@thetimestreamer: Eh, I didn't like all that as much anyway. I'll see if I can find it.
@zhurong: Woah, no need for the hostility and language there mate. Let's keep it clean alright.
@justthatkid: Hawkwoman is in the main universe, she was in the Hawkman comics.
I really think this guy is just trying to troll everyone with this Hawkgirl stuff and saying Batman is basically God.
Hawkgirl is a shit character every where except the DCAU (which even there she was the lamest of all the founders).
@zhurong: She's not a founding JL member except in the (imo) highly overrated DCAU.
A version of Hawkgirl is in Earth-2 if you're interested.
Finally someone admits it!
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