Grayson #1

    • 62 results
    • 1
    • 2
    Avatar image for gmanfromheck
    gmanfromheck

    42524

    Forum Posts

    259238

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 472

    User Lists: 2

    Edited By gmanfromheck

    The Good

    Sometimes change can be a good thing. There’s nothing wrong with trying to step outside the status quo. That’s something DC has often done over the years. With a beloved character like Dick Grayson, there is more of a risk over fans being outraged. To be fair, Dick is a character that used to be Batman’s kid sidekick, Robin. He later gave that up to lead the Teen Titans (in previous continuity) and, soon after, became Nightwing. He’s moved around and called different places home. If any established character in the DC Universe could make such a drastic change, it’s Dick Grayson.

    Through the events in FOREVER EVIL, Nightwing’s secret identity was exposed. While it’s possible Dick Grayson could have still continued his crime fighting career (the fact that a crazed superhuman actually moved the moon out of orbit might be a distraction), but the decision was to “kill” off the identity of Dick Grayson. This was Batman’s identity so that Dick could infiltrate a secret spy organization called Spyral. We jump right into the action here, seeing Dick, as Agent 37, on an early mission (Dick was seen joining Spyral in the final issue of NIGHTWING).

    Dick Grayson as a spy makes some sense. He doesn’t have superpowers to make him stand out (or give him an unfair comic book advantage) but he does have other incredible skills. Through his time with Batman, the World’s Greatest Detective, and out on his own, he would have no problem infiltrating this group and making an adjustment like this. There is plenty of potential in this series and it could be really cool to see how Dick moves forward and how it will continue to evolve his character. I did like that there’s an explanation as to how he can run around without a mask after being publicly exposed and trying to convince his loved ones he’s dead. Tim Seeley hits all the marks in this area.

    Mikel Janin’s art is always a treat to see. With Dick not having a flashy costume, there needs to be care in making sure the details of his face and movement are captured. The setting isn’t a typical one you’d see in superhero comics and Janin doesn’t miss a beat. Jeromy Cox's colors adds even more glory to Janin's art and gives it a nice separate feel from the rest of the DCU.

    The Bad

    Dick as a spy and not a superhero will take some getting used to. It’s still hard to see why the need was for this change. This may have been an idea formed before this series went underway but there isn’t exactly a whole lot here that really sells the readers on why this is a necessary change for Dick Grayson. But it does open some new areas to explore.

    There is some fun in being thrown straight into the action. Unfortunately it leaves readers wondering what exactly is going on. A sense of mystery may be important in building up the suspense of the story but for us to not know exactly what the mission is or what the stakes are, it takes a little away from the enjoyment. The sudden appearance of Midnighter felt like it came out of nowhere. Hopefully we’ll see the appearance of Kathy Kane since that would make a lot of sense and could make things really interesting.

    Helena Bertinelli’s inclusion (and change) still needs to be explored. Obviously this is only the first issue but there is no sign of why it was necessary to include her in this role or to completely rewrite her character history. They're could definitely be promise to this character but it's perplexing that DC felt the need to completely revamp the character. (Note: This aspect does not directly affect the rating for this issue).

    The Verdict

    Dick Grayson has evolved once again into a different guise in the DC Universe. No longer a superhero, he has now entered the world of espionage as he tries to infiltrate a spy organization. The big question is whether or not this change is necessary. Tim Seeley and Tom King set things up to arouse our curiosity and shows that this could be an exciting time for the character. Mikel Janin's art and Jeromy Cox's colors make this look really good. Dick Grayson as a spy might be a crazy idea but it could just be crazy enough to work. Dick Grayson fans will want to see where the character is going.

    Avatar image for righteous300
    righteous300

    3975

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Glad to see the first issue started off pretty good.

    Avatar image for danhimself
    danhimself

    21433

    Forum Posts

    36958

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 3

    I was honestly worried about this and I'll be honest that I wasn't a fan of the change when it was announced....but....it was a good issue...I enjoyed and I'll keep reading this....am I still upset that he's no longer Nightwing? Yes! but this book was well written and the art was good

    Avatar image for kasino
    kasino

    2064

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #4  Edited By kasino
    No Caption Provided

    Dick Grayson the Human Target

    Avatar image for gmanfromheck
    gmanfromheck

    42524

    Forum Posts

    259238

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 472

    User Lists: 2

    @danhimself: Maybe I'm just skeptical but I feel like he'll return to NIGHTWING someday. But then again, he never returned to Robin. Then again again, he did return to Nightwing after being Batman.

    Avatar image for longbowhunter
    longbowhunter

    9425

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 4

    User Lists: 1

    I bought this issue mostly for the Jock variant. Haven't read it yet.

    Avatar image for danhimself
    danhimself

    21433

    Forum Posts

    36958

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 3

    @g_man said:

    @danhimself: Maybe I'm just skeptical but I feel like he'll return to NIGHTWING someday. But then again, he never returned to Robin. Then again again, he did return to Nightwing after being Batman.

    Oh I fully agree that he'll eventually go back to being Nightwing someday but that doesn't mean that we can't enjoy his time as a spy

    Avatar image for deactivated-5edd330f57b65
    deactivated-5edd330f57b65

    26437

    Forum Posts

    815

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    What I'm getting from this review is that this is a decent, average issue but there was no need for this to exist at all, and it was a silly, unnecessary change for dick. I'm buying this in trades when the first one comes out and I hope it lives up to its potential because its just OK right now. Very uncomfortable and unnecessary.

    Avatar image for denn979
    Denn979

    69

    Forum Posts

    74

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 1

    It may not have been the best change for Dick, but the issue was pretty good overall, especially the art by Janin.

    Avatar image for batwatch
    BatWatch

    5487

    Forum Posts

    274

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 238

    User Lists: 1

    I'm okay with the concept of Grayson, but reading the beginning of the article reminded me about the loss of Dick in the Teen Titans and all his glorious pre-52 continuity, and that just makes me irate.

    Anybody else for rioting until they restore pre-52 universe? Anybody? No? Guess it's just me. Hold on while I set my neighbor's car on fire.

    Avatar image for godlike130
    Godlike130

    33

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    This issue was solid gold. Get over the change already and enjoy the ride.

    Avatar image for cobramorph
    COBRAMORPH

    1884

    Forum Posts

    650

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    @batwatch said:

    Anybody else for rioting until they restore pre-52 universe? Anybody? No? Guess it's just me. Hold on while I set my neighbor's car on fire.

    I would not mind if the real characters returned & these alternate versions in this cross-over of the new52 ended, except for the occasional team-up or whatever for the next crisis. I remember getting into comics right before Marvel did the AOA & so thought it was the new permanent status-quo.

    *

    As for Grayson, super-spy, had they not already brought back Jason Todd, I'd rather this be how they did it. I do not like Jason using the RedHood name. I dont like characters taking over someone elses costume either, so I wouldnt want Jason to abondon the RedHood to replace Dick as Nightwing. Mainly because, we know Dick WILL be back to being Nightwing soon. & if not him, then some meat will be wearing the suit, & I dont like costumes being passed around. It cheapens them & weakens the franchise by giving the fans too much confusion. A big mistake in GL & Flash is that the fans have to try & figure out why there are now 5GLs, not even counting Alan or Jade, & 4 speeders. Plus, it doesnt help establish Jason if all he does is take over someone else's costume either.

    But, whatever, its clearly an extended mission for Dick from Bats.

    Avatar image for brucewayne19
    BruceWayne19

    45

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Really good issue, I didn't doubt the change at all, in fact it made a lot of sense to me. One day he will don the tights again but until then this will be an exciting series

    Avatar image for wardishy_
    WarDishy_

    1252

    Forum Posts

    447

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 5

    I will definitely check this issue out once I eventually read all of NIGHTWING. I'm only up to about issue 15 lol.

    Avatar image for rainja
    Rainja

    646

    Forum Posts

    46

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 3

    User Lists: 0

    I

    Avatar image for nahuel
    Nahuel

    392

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    I'm picking this up for sure! I'm really adaptable to change.

    Avatar image for kid_apollo
    kid Apollo

    961

    Forum Posts

    14

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    i have a theory that eventually, with all the name changes, costume changes and identity swaps that superheroes/villains will someday only be known on this site by their civilian identities. it would be quicker to search dick grayson then it would robin/nightwing/batman

    Avatar image for twentyfive
    Twentyfive

    3057

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #18  Edited By Twentyfive

    This issue was solid gold. Get over the change already and enjoy the ride.

    Priceless advice.

    Avatar image for wtk1013
    wtk1013

    388

    Forum Posts

    33

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Sooo.....what was Helena Bertinelli like in this issue?

    Avatar image for nightwing_beyond
    Nightwing_Beyond

    179

    Forum Posts

    292

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 9

    User Lists: 0

    As a Batman Inc. fan, I kinda geeked out when I saw Saint Hadrian's Finishing School For Girls again:) Dick Grayson was characterized perfectly as expected but, I'm surprised how much I enjoyed Helena Bertinelli's characterization in this issue. She has that ultimate Bond girl vibe to her which I really like. I'm not gonna lie though, at times when I read Dick's lines, I heard Archer's voice in my head. Just from the way this issue is structured, I have a feeling this book won't suffer from a second issue slump like many other books do and will be even more bombastic! Looking forward to this ride and thanking the DC Gods that Dick isn't six feet under right now...

    Avatar image for lightsout
    lightsout

    1886

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 1

    User Lists: 0

    @g_man said:

    Then again again, he did return to Nightwing after being Batman.

    Wasn't that just because of the new-52 "reboot"? - that they wanted to have a Nightwing title. (Or was there an in-comic explanation I'm not aware of).

    Very good review tho G-Man, answered what I wanted to know ("vibe" wise) about this title. I think I'm going to have to pass on this one. Not angry he's not no-longer Nightwing, just not a fan of non-SuperHero business.

    Avatar image for squalleon
    Squalleon

    9994

    Forum Posts

    3193

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 6

    User Lists: 7

    Nice start.
    Kind of a quick read. We didn't get much plot developed but the main characters were introduced and set.
    I will definetely give issue 2 a shot.

    Avatar image for bsaa
    Bsaa

    759

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Avatar image for deactivated-5fbfd5d291164
    deactivated-5fbfd5d291164

    12702

    Forum Posts

    1547

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 74

    User Lists: 7

    Wait... did Grayson just fight Midnighter and not get his ass kicked right away?

    Avatar image for grandwonder
    GrandWonder

    1363

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #26  Edited By GrandWonder

    Grayson as a spy definitely works. It's fresh and I'm hooked. I can't wait for the next issue.

    Avatar image for burningzerox
    burningzeroX

    19

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    @dagmar_merrill Yes, Yes he did.

    Am I the only one that still feels this whole Spy thing is just going to be a short lived item anyhow. I still feel this is just preparing Dick for his next great adventure. I'm calling that they already have an end in mind and it will be near the end of Batman Eternal or shortly there after.

    Avatar image for longbowhunter
    longbowhunter

    9425

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 4

    User Lists: 1

    I thought this was great. Awesome action packed story. Really like the supporting cast and am eager to learn more about Spyral. Like I said before, I picked this up because of the Jock cover not really expecting much out of the story. But Tim Seeley brought the creepy and Mikel Janin's art has never looked better. Great start so far.

    Avatar image for winter_kills
    Winter_Kills

    1373

    Forum Posts

    1785

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    @batwatch said:

    I'm okay with the concept of Grayson, but reading the beginning of the article reminded me about the loss of Dick in the Teen Titans and all his glorious pre-52 continuity, and that just makes me irate.

    Anybody else for rioting until they restore pre-52 universe? Anybody? No? Guess it's just me. Hold on while I set my neighbor's car on fire.

    Hey I'm with ya brother! let me get some molotov cocktails made up...but seriously, the New 52 turned me off DC in a lot of ways- retconning out the JSA was a BIG one for me. As well as Wally West. Dick Grayson was one of the few characters I could enjoy- & I can't help but feel like this change was made because DC recognized the popularity of Bucky as the Winter Soldier, & felt they could have the same success by making Dick a super-spy character, with the world at large thinking him dead. But that's not who Dick is. Dick has always been a swashbuckling crimefighter, going back to his Robin days. There's other characters that could fit more in the super-spy arena- Roy Harper, for example, who was an agent of Checkmate- but Dick Grayson? C'mon. Like G-Man said above, there was a HUGE distraction that could've overshadowed the reveal of his identity & he could've continued as Nightwing. I hope in the future, he can be Nightwing again, maybe this experience will make him better, I dunno. Sorry DC- Bucky is Bucky, Dick is Dick. But, imitation is the best form of flattery. It's ironic though that DC can put this book out while Marvel can't even produce a decent WS limited series, despite the previous successes of the character & the movie. And on the bright side, maybe this will be something that helps Dick to stand out on his own man, more than he has been lately, and maybe this will light a fire under Marvel's butt & get them to remember what everyone, inc. DC realizes- that the Winter Soldier is an awesome concept, & put out a quality series with him.

    Avatar image for redwingx
    redwingx

    1360

    Forum Posts

    1

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Glad to hear that the issue is solid.

    Avatar image for deactivated-5d2b83d5a0d79
    deactivated-5d2b83d5a0d79

    12104

    Forum Posts

    19

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 1

    I wish they kept the domino mask, at least.

    Avatar image for redwingx
    redwingx

    1360

    Forum Posts

    1

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #32  Edited By redwingx

    @farkam said:

    I wish they kept the domino mask, at least.

    And the name Nightwing:(

    Avatar image for pscully
    PScully

    48

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Dear DC,

    Won't buy it. Won't even LOOK at it. I wish nothing but bad things for this direction with Dick Grayson.

    Avatar image for redwingx
    redwingx

    1360

    Forum Posts

    1

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #34  Edited By redwingx

    @dagmar_merrill said:

    Wait... did Grayson just fight Midnighter and not get his ass kicked right away?

    Midnighter was going easy on him.

    Avatar image for danhimself
    danhimself

    21433

    Forum Posts

    36958

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 3

    @pscully said:

    Dear DC,

    Won't buy it. Won't even LOOK at it. I wish nothing but bad things for this direction with Dick Grayson.

    your stubbornness is keeping you away from a pretty enjoyable book

    Dick is still Dick in this....there weren't any glaring out of character moments for him....the only thing different right now is that he's not calling himself Nightwing....I actually enjoyed this more than his time as Batman

    Avatar image for deactivated-5c6600594117e
    deactivated-5c6600594117e

    22316

    Forum Posts

    9027

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 111

    User Lists: 51

    Creative team has me interested..

    Avatar image for mak13131313
    mak13131313

    1601

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 7

    Really good issue, I didn't doubt the change at all, in fact it made a lot of sense to me. One day he will don the tights again but until then this will be an exciting series

    This.

    Avatar image for FeedOnATreeFrog
    feedonatreefrog

    290

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Dont see why people are so negative about having something different for a while.

    Avatar image for brione
    Brione

    116

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    This was a great read. Dick was pretty much the same Dick just in a different situation. I really like all the connections to Batman, Inc and I'm curious to see where the story goes.

    Avatar image for docfishstick
    DocFishstick

    242

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    I am so glad he is not dead. I love the book. Just read it and I think its going to be great.

    Avatar image for catriona_knightfall
    Catriona_Knightfall

    999

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    @wtk1013 said:

    Sooo.....what was Helena Bertinelli like in this issue?

    In a word? Badass.

    Avatar image for minpod
    minpod

    1

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Is no one going to point out the code names? Mr Malone? Matches Malone?

    Avatar image for patrat18
    patrat18

    11753

    Forum Posts

    1

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 4

    @brucewayne19 said:

    Really good issue, I didn't doubt the change at all, in fact it made a lot of sense to me. One day he will don the tights again but until then this will be an exciting series

    This.

    2up

    Avatar image for reaverlation
    reaverlation

    26398

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Midnighter should've accidentally killed Dick

    Avatar image for hushofthewind
    HushoftheWind

    1338

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    Man Dick gets no credit in his fighting feats. It seems like every time he's pitted against a high level street leveler he's suppose to get stomp. People need to really stop underestimating Dick Grayson his showing against Midniter was amazing and he held his own like he is capable of doing so.

    Avatar image for jackbensley777
    jackbensley777

    810

    Forum Posts

    51

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 3

    User Lists: 1

    him and batman could do the jobs as spies more or less in costume without changing their book into a spy book. i like cold war era spy stuff specifically bond, might not pick this up actually.

    Avatar image for jazzlover
    JazzLover

    74

    Forum Posts

    878

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 1

    User Lists: 0

    #47  Edited By JazzLover

    @hushofthewind said:

    Man Dick gets no credit in his fighting feats. It seems like every time he's pitted against a high level street leveler he's suppose to get stomp. People need to really stop underestimating Dick Grayson his showing against Midniter was amazing and he held his own like he is capable of doing so.

    Agree with this. Sure Midnighter is strong but you could at least give Dick some credit, no need to underestimate him that much.

    @brucewayne19 said:

    Really good issue, I didn't doubt the change at all, in fact it made a lot of sense to me. One day he will don the tights again but until then this will be an exciting series

    Yeah this is just a mission, who knows maybe this all has something to do with his 75th anniversary in 2015. But I guess it's pretty clear that he will return to his Nightwing persona or at least to his hero life. I like the change and the issue was great. I'll enjoy this comic as long as I can ~

    Avatar image for jonny_anonymous
    Jonny_Anonymous

    45773

    Forum Posts

    11109

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 3

    User Lists: 32

    @hushofthewind said:

    Man Dick gets no credit in his fighting feats. It seems like every time he's pitted against a high level street leveler he's suppose to get stomp. People need to really stop underestimating Dick Grayson his showing against Midniter was amazing and he held his own like he is capable of doing so.

    Agree with this. Sure Midnighter is strong but you could at least give Dick some credit, no need to underestimate him that much.

    @brucewayne19 said:

    Really good issue, I didn't doubt the change at all, in fact it made a lot of sense to me. One day he will don the tights again but until then this will be an exciting series

    Yeah this is just a mission, who knows maybe this all has something to do with his 75th anniversary in 2015. But I guess it's pretty clear that he will return to his Nightwing persona or at least to his hero life. I like the change and the issue was great. I'll enjoy this comic as long as I can ~

    Midnighter isn't street level. In fact he's so far beyond street level that it isn't even funny.

    Avatar image for inkink
    InkInk

    188

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 0

    User Lists: 0

    #49  Edited By InkInk

    Man I love how with only one issue out so far people are saying the series is amazing or on the other side of the coin saying it sucks. You can't judge and ongoing series by one issue have to give it at least one full story line.

    Avatar image for cheluprim
    cheluprim

    40

    Forum Posts

    0

    Wiki Points

    0

    Followers

    Reviews: 1

    User Lists: 0

    #50  Edited By cheluprim

    Awww yeeahhh, this issue was awesome! Was sad to when I heard he wouldn't be Nightwing anymore but as long as Dick still has a series I'm happy :)

    This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for:

    Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.

    Comment and Save

    Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Comic Vine users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll send you an email once approved.