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@ninjawarrior268: none other than keeping up with beerus who has mftl feats.

A bunch, I'll post them later

@midnightdragon18: the only feat he has is keeping up with beerus. The post sa D in super.

Roshi's Blast was either lightspeed or 90-99% lightspeed

@midnightdragon18: He also has that feat of traveling half of namek in 1 second.

@panda_emperorix: that wasn't FTL, Light can circle around the planet 7 times in one second.

@midnightdragon18: Still pretty fast. Also this was a much weaker version.

@panda_emperorix: true, by the time he goes ssj, goku should be mftl

@midnightdragon18: Maybe...

@midnightdragon18: also remember the feat where goku,gohan,goten sent broly flying with there kamehameha to the sun in like 9 sec

Solid? No.

DBZ have almost no solid feats, we have no idea how strong or fast is any of the characters, that is one of the reasons why dbz threads end so bad many times

@jloneblackheart: I posted plenty of solid feats above.

@noone301994: i posted plenty of solid feats above

@midnightdragon18: You didn't post anything I haven't seen for over 10+ years. Nothing definitive. Ki attacks and explosions aren't faster than light.

@bluehope: no, the reason the threads end so bad most of the time is because of trolls

@jloneblackheart: i guess piccolo said all he saw was a light for the lolz. I guess roshi almost instantly vaporized the moon, so his blast was 10x slower than light. I guess goku escaping a ball of light means he's massively slower.

But seriously there's plenty of lightspeed feats.

Kid Goku=supersonic to low hypersonic

Adult Goku=massively hypersonic

ssj Goku and above = who knows

That's what I was thinking because people say there are no ftl feats in DB before Super came out. So, I was wondering if he had ftl feats in Super. Also, I posted a question to your wall. Can you answer it?

@midnightdragon18: Read what you just posted and tell me again how any of that is faster than light.

"saw light"

"almost instantly"

"ball of light"

These prove nothing.

@ninjawarrior268: I'll take a look when I get to a computer.

Whis is faster than light travel speed, although it could be hyperspace not pure speed, but I count it either way.

Beerus is most likely. He followed Whis to a planet in the anime, although distance of planet and time to get there is unknown.

Goku is faster than light via instant transmission. Otherwise, nothing is proven.

@jloneblackheart: also just to let to know you saying no it isn't isnt a counter to anything.

You have to explain why escaping a ball of light isn't ftl.

You have to explain why the blast described as a light wasn't lightspeed.

@midnightdragon18: I get bored with repeating myself for years.

A lightbulb isn't faster than light. The light you see coming from it is, at least in a vacuum. An atmosphere is not a vacuum. Additionally, he escaped an explosion of the ki attack, which is not light speed either. Just because something emits light doesn't mean its faster than light. Is a car at night faster than light?

How about this? A ball of light? The sun. Is the sun faster than light?

A ki attack is not faster than light. Energy is not faster than light. Using the word light in an attack doesnt make it faster than light. An attack shown in a static panel does not mean the next panel is instant.

Goku was FTL in the 23rd WMAT when he was purely invisible for moments at a time.

You guys severely underestimate the speed of light. I don't blame you, its amazing to comprehend.

No, goku is powerscaled from beerus and whis

@jloneblackheart: Intant transmission is instantaneous. It's not movement speed it's teleportation.

@panda_emperorix: and you think I didn't know that because _____?

@jloneblackheart: In one of your comments you said it was lightspeed...

@panda_emperorix: Light speed via instant transmission. He can get somewhere faster than light via teleportation.

@jloneblackheart:

I wouldn't say it's lightspeed...more like instant, but that's just me.

Edit: Sometimes people get confused so I just wanted clear up any misconceptions other people may have.

@panda_emperorix: Well instant certainly is faster than light speed. Most power rankings for teleporters show their speed and then the bar up to max with an asterisk to indicate teleportation.

A little off topic, I've always wondered why he hasn't shown anyone else how to do it, or someone hasn't asked.

It probably has to do with the type of training he received from the Yardrats. Perhaps it's not easier to teach than it is to accomplish. Theoretically, Goku should be able to; take the Fusion Dance scene for example - he was very direct and stern about how to be exact in its execution.

@midnightdragon18: He likely escaped the explosion of the ball, and about the Piccolo thing. That would obviously be contradicted later on the series with the solar flares.

Vegeta does have a feat of dodging multiple lasers, but it has yet to be calculated, so....

goku was ftl back in the seiyan saga

Ssj Goku is LS if not FTL

No he wasnt

Reminder that it took Gotenks several minutes to circle the earth 9 times

@fc_tsukihanami: Not Ftl yet.

@galactic_1000: @fc_tsukihanami: in the Manga it appears as a FTL feat due to all the lines being visible simultaneously.

@03s7: Nemesisreloaded & zoldy already debunked that.

Didn't say it was

@galactic_1000: when?

@03s7: I forget but you can tag him.

@galactic_1000: I'm in a similar debate with him atm