For example, characters like Thanos, Reed Richards, Doctor Doom etc. They are deemed to be extremely intelligent. So much so that they are deemed to be able to even beat Galactus if given prep.

From what I understand of Galactus, he happens to be one of the sole survivors of the previous universe. He has knowledge that nobody below him has. He thinks at a level higher than beings below him such as humans. Analogous to the level of thinking humans have relative to ants. He has comprehension of things that are beyond the comprehension of humans and even alien beings that are below him. Analogous to humans having comprehension of things that are beyond the comprehension of ants for example. He has technology and understanding science that are beyond earthlings and other beings below him, including extraterrestrial aliens.

So from what I've described about Galactus that is based on my understanding, it seems like Galactus's intellect and overall mental capacity relative to characters below him such as humans and extraterrestrial aliens should be the difference between the intellect of humans and ant. This should mean that humans (including the smartest) should have no chance of ever beating Galactus, irrespective of prep time or not. They simply should not have the ability to defeat Galactus in anyway the same way ants have no way to defeat humans. Even if it's the smartest ant. If Galactus sets a goal, humans should have no chance of thwarting Galactus from achieving his goal. This also applies to extraterrestrial smart characters like Thanos. He should also be inferior to Galactus in terms of intellect.

Yet, how is it that humans can regularly beat Galactus with prep time? Such as Doctor Doom, Reed Richards etc. How is it that Thanos should be able to beat Galactus even with prep time? Just how much more intelligent is Galactus compared to those character I've mentioned and should they feasibly be able to beat Galactus based on the intelligence difference. For example, an ant should never be able to beat a human irrespective of how much prep they get. Should that be the same between Galactus and those other characters or is the gap a little shorter? Like is Doctor Doom stealing Galactus's powers or Reed Richards thwarting Galactus a PIS or is it a consistent and legit feat? If it is, then Galactus simply isn't really that much more intelligent and his intellect is pretty much overrated in that case.

If someone like Thanos gets one sided prep against Galactus, should he have the capability to beat Galactus? Or say they both have the same amount of prep, who has more intelligence to beat the other? Who can achieve the most difficult goals or solve the most difficult problems between Galactus, Thanos, Doctor Doom and Reed Richards given everything is equal and none have an unfair advantage? Such as equal time, resources etc.

I just wanted to gauge the exact level of intellect that Galactus has relative to other intelligent characters that are below him in base power / ability level.

@ganstaz003: Well you made the mistake in thinking that the gap is comparable to an and and a human which is obviously false , ants have no ability to critically think they are instinctual and humans on the other hand can critically thing and have free will to make decisions , even the most imbecilic ones

The gap between aliens like Thanos and humans are more like that of lower primates and the smartest humans , despite the gap in power and strength, thanos is actually pretty close to galactis' peer in terms of intellect and technology

Reed and doom and other brilliant humans ate still vastly outmatched compared to galactus and thanos , and most of the times humans have beaten galactus is due to pis or cis , also your right is galactus or thanos or that matter really set their minds to a task then their combination of power and strength wouldn't be overcome by any earthlings

@cull_obsidian: No PIS. Only CIS.

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@krleavenger: Yeah ? What about the ultimate nullifier ? Isn't that a plot point to defeat galactus ?

@cull_obsidian: That is like Plot Device. It did not make Galactus look less impressive.

@cull_obsidian:

"Well you made the mistake in thinking that the gap is comparable to an and and a human which is obviously false , ants have no ability to critically think they are instinctual and humans on the other hand can critically thing and have free will to make decisions , even the most imbecilic ones"

I used ants as an analogy. To ants, the concept of 'critical thinking and free will' may not exist due to their cognitive limitations. It exists to us due to our cognitive superiority. Similarly, there are concepts that are totally beyond the comprehension of every single human being on earth, irrespective of how intelligent the human is. For example, the concept of infinity, the concept of omnipotence etc. No human being can understand what infinity truly is. No human being can understand what omnipotence truly is. Such as how an omnipotent being can break the rules of logic. These concepts could be within the comprehension of certain extraterrestrial beings who's cognitive / intelligent level is higher than us to the same degree as our's is compared to ants. That's how I view the difference between Galactus and humans.

"The gap between aliens like Thanos and humans are more like that of lower primates and the smartest humans , despite the gap in power and strength, thanos is actually pretty close to galactis' peer in terms of intellect and technology"

With Thanos, I could understand because he isn't a human but a super advanced extraterrestrial being, thus could justifiably rival Galactus (cosmic entity) in terms of intellect. Even in real life, it's entirely possible that there are aliens who are so much smarter than us that such species can solve problems that Stephen Hawking solves whilst they're in their diapers. Also, they can have technology that is far beyond our comprehension the same way the operations of a computer is far beyond the comprehension of a monkey. What I can't understand is any human, including the smartest humans such as Doctor Doom and Reed Richards could ever stop, thwart or defeat Galactus intellectually when the operations and concepts of Galactus should be far beyond the comprehension of even the most intelligent humans. It's like the smartest ant being able to stop or thwart even the dumbest human. Simply can't happen. I mainly wanted to know if such an event was PIS or legit. If PIS, shouldn't such feats not be applicable in battle threads?

"Reed and doom and other brilliant humans ate still vastly outmatched compared to galactus and thanos , and most of the times humans have beaten galactus is due to pis or cis , also your right is galactus or thanos or that matter really set their minds to a task then their combination of power and strength wouldn't be overcome by any earthlings"

I totally agree! No matter how smart the humans are, if they are true humans, then they shouldn't be able to comprehend concepts and the means of operations of super advanced (relative to earthlings) entities like Thanos and Galactus. The concept of omnipotence should be beyond even doctor doom considering he's just a human in the end.

They probably beat him because of tech. Thanos's tech alone Rivals Galans.

I remember Reed richards saying Galactus had tech beyond comprehension.