Gail Simone kicked off of Batgirl (for real this time)

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#1 Posted by damswedon (545 posts) - - Show Bio

Last week there were rumblings that Gail Simone had left Batgirl now that her exclusive contract had finished. Gail said on her tumbler that that was not true she hadn't left Batgirl. Well it turns out that was only half true.

On Wednesday of last week, new Batgirl editor Brian Cunningham informed me by email that I was no longer the writer of Batgirl.

— GailSimone (@GailSimone) December 9, 2012

So Gail was kicked off of Batgirl.

You have to wonder who is going to pick up the book next, Scott Snyder, Scott Lobdell, or Jeff Lemire that seems to their solution for everything at the moment,

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#2 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder if this means she will be leaving DC

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#3 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

i dont know what happened to gail. batgirl is so mediocre. she had phenomenal run on secret six and wonder woman.

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#4 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6958 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, shocking yet then again not surprising.

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#5 Posted by the_tree (8456 posts) - - Show Bio

Sucks that she got kicked off in such a way. I wasn't a big fan of the book though, it was arguably one of, if not my least favorite works from Simone.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I wonder if this means she will be leaving DC

I wouldn't be surprised, DC seems to be making a lot of writers want to leave. Winnick, Rozum, Rucka, Liefeld.

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#6 Posted by TheCrowbar (4397 posts) - - Show Bio

Brian Cunningham is a huge dick apparently. Who fires someone through e-mail? At least have the decency to pick up a phone asshole.

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#7 Posted by tim_mik (137 posts) - - Show Bio

didn't realize Judd had left DC altogether. as for Gail, I think she could use a break from DC. I subbed to Firestorm partly because of her and that book wasn't very good and Batgirl was just starting to get better with the last few issues. I'm wondering if it was all editorial - specifically the meddling hands of Didio.

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#8 Posted by arnoldoaad (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree said:

Sucks that she got kicked off in such a way. I wasn't a big fan of the book though, it was arguably one of, if not my least favorite works from Simone.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I wonder if this means she will be leaving DC

I wouldn't be surprised, DC seems to be making a lot of writers want to leave. Winnick, Rozum, Rucka, Liefeld.

well actually Winnick left to make his own project, as far s i know he didnt left in a bad note

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#9 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree said:

Sucks that she got kicked off in such a way. I wasn't a big fan of the book though, it was arguably one of, if not my least favorite works from Simone.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I wonder if this means she will be leaving DC

I wouldn't be surprised, DC seems to be making a lot of writers want to leave. Winnick, Rozum, Rucka, Liefeld.

Not to mention Morrison@TheCrowbar said:

Brian Cunningham is a huge dick apparently. Who fires someone through e-mail? At least have the decency to pick up a phone asshole.

exactly

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#10 Posted by rav4 (1688 posts) - - Show Bio

Well this is unfortunate news. I'm apparently in the minority when it comes to message boards in liking Batgirl thus far, but I have to wonder what goes into the decision of booting writers off titles. It can't be simply sales, as Batgirl is doing very well right now in that department. Problems behind the scenes, perhaps... Then again, new editor, maybe he just wanted someone else he was more familiar with writing the title, who knows. Kind of a poor way to let someone know that they're not the writer anymore, though. An e-mail? Really? Couldn't pick up the phone and give a formal call?

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#11 Posted by arnoldoaad (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

Well at least im glad that Batgirl has the chance to be readable again

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#12 Posted by Billy Batson (60940 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous:

Morrison is just stopping with monthlies. He's still going to work for DC.
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#13 Posted by rav4 (1688 posts) - - Show Bio

@tim_mik said:

didn't realize Judd had left DC altogether. as for Gail, I think she could use a break from DC. I subbed to Firestorm partly because of her and that book wasn't very good and Batgirl was just starting to get better with the last few issues. I'm wondering if it was all editorial - specifically the meddling hands of Didio.

From what I understand, Firestorm was hugely held back by editorial mandates, which was why Gail was so frustrated when writing it. She's the one that chose to leave that title, because of so much interference.

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#14 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson: Oh really? I thought he was done for good.

@Ravager4: There seems to be a lot of book with the same problem in the DCnU

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#15 Posted by arnoldoaad (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@Billy Batson: Oh really? I thought he was done for good.

no, he is going to write Wonder Woman Earth One in fact and he still has Multiversity next year

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#16 Posted by Billy Batson (60940 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous:

Nah. He's doing Multiversity, Wonder Woman Earth One and the likes. Probably some Vertigo work too.
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#17 Posted by the_tree (8456 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@The_Tree said:

Sucks that she got kicked off in such a way. I wasn't a big fan of the book though, it was arguably one of, if not my least favorite works from Simone.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I wonder if this means she will be leaving DC

I wouldn't be surprised, DC seems to be making a lot of writers want to leave. Winnick, Rozum, Rucka, Liefeld.

Not to mention Morrison@TheCrowbar said:

Brian Cunningham is a huge dick apparently. Who fires someone through e-mail? At least have the decency to pick up a phone asshole.

exactly

At least we've still got Multiversity and his Wonder Woman project to look forward to.

@arnoldoaad said:

@The_Tree said:

Sucks that she got kicked off in such a way. I wasn't a big fan of the book though, it was arguably one of, if not my least favorite works from Simone.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I wonder if this means she will be leaving DC

I wouldn't be surprised, DC seems to be making a lot of writers want to leave. Winnick, Rozum, Rucka, Liefeld.

well actually Winnick left to make his own project, as far s i know he didnt left in a bad note

There were rumors that he was having editorial problems, which wouldn't be surprising if true. But he's left for the foreseeable future.

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#18 Posted by Mercy_ (94928 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jonny_Anonymous

I wonder if this means she will be leaving DC

Wouldn't doubt it. She's made her discontent known.
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#19 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

@Jonny_Anonymous:

Nah. He's doing Multiversity, Wonder Woman Earth One and the likes. Probably some Vertigo work too.
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Yea for some reason I was under the impersonation he had just dropped them. Have you ever read Joe the Barbarian? I think it's my favourite thing he's written.

@The_Tree: Perez said it was also the reason for the problems on Superman

@Mercy_: Someone tweeted to her asking if the reason she was fired was because she never had enough women in the refrigerators and she said "funny you should ask that. I wonder what she meant.

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#20 Posted by arnoldoaad (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@The_Tree: Perez said it was also the reason for the problems on Superman

And Liefeld and many other writers

in fact i think Brian Cunninham is one of the editors that Liefeld complained about(im not 100% sure though)

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#21 Posted by danhimself (21433 posts) - - Show Bio

it sucks that Simone has been taken off of the title that way but I'm not really sad to see her go....hopefully we'll get a writer who makes the book feel like every issue isn't a filler issue

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#22 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree: dc will survive without liefeld. no loss.

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#23 Posted by Lvenger (36344 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn shame. I'm beginning to get annoyed with DC now. First the mess with Vertigo now firing Gail Simone, one of the top female writers, via phone? That's a low pathetic blow. Bad editors are the bane of the comic industry

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#24 Posted by rav4 (1688 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

Damn shame. I'm beginning to get annoyed with DC now. First the mess with Vertigo now firing Gail Simone, one of the top female writers, via phone? That's a low pathetic blow. Bad editors are the bane of the comic industry

Via e-mail, dude. A phone would have been a step up.

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#25 Posted by redmanta (605 posts) - - Show Bio

no no no

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#26 Posted by Lvenger (36344 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

@Lvenger said:

Damn shame. I'm beginning to get annoyed with DC now. First the mess with Vertigo now firing Gail Simone, one of the top female writers, via phone? That's a low pathetic blow. Bad editors are the bane of the comic industry

Via e-mail, dude. A phone would have been a step up.

Ah that's what I meant to say. Was thinking phone when I wrote it.

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#27 Posted by the_stegman (40389 posts) - - Show Bio
I actually like her run on Batgirl. :(
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#28 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

@Lvenger said:

Damn shame. I'm beginning to get annoyed with DC now. First the mess with Vertigo now firing Gail Simone, one of the top female writers, via phone? That's a low pathetic blow. Bad editors are the bane of the comic industry

Via e-mail, dude. A phone would have been a step up.

Yea it's a pretty scumbag way to go about it

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#29 Posted by Juandicimo_Magnifico45 (155 posts) - - Show Bio

I think we need to wait to hear more information about the situation before freaking out and hating. Obviously something has happened behind the scenes. Plus, while I have been enjoying Batgirl, I am not heartbroken about a new writer. It was never something I looked forward to seeing. Maybe she is being put on a new project, maybe it is to simply try a different writer to boost sales? We don't know enough yet.

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#30 Posted by the_tree (8456 posts) - - Show Bio

@theTimeStreamer said:

@The_Tree: dc will survive without liefeld. no loss.

I know, I was just giving examples of writer's who've left.

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#31 Posted by Hastny (60 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow. DC has really been making an effort to act like aholes lately. And now they've fired one of their most talented female writers. Through email!

I'm getting real tired of this. One year ago I used to only pick up DC books, but I'm quickly loosing my intrest in the company and their editorial. Hopefully they'll straighten out eventually so I can go back to enjoying their books like I used to. Meanwhile, thank God for Marvel Now!

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#32 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (18173 posts) - - Show Bio

wow.....so what good writers does DC still have? im having trouble keeping track

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#33 Edited by BushidoBlack (117 posts) - - Show Bio

Being putting off a book via email is a dick move. That shouldn't happen to anybody regardless of the quality of work they're submitting.

It wouldn't surprise me if she ends up at Marvel.

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#34 Posted by JairamGanpat (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

wow.....so what good writers does DC still have? im having trouble keeping track

Snyder, Morrison, Lemire? 52 books 3 writers. Welcome to DC, buddy

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#35 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@JairamGanpat: Morrison isn't doing ongoings at DC anymore

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#36 Posted by JairamGanpat (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JairamGanpat: Morrison isn't doing ongoings at DC anymore

but he's still working for DC... WW Earth One and Multiversity so he's still technically under DC :p

also I would like to add James Robinson and Joshual Fialkov to my list of good writers at DC :)

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#37 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@JairamGanpat said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JairamGanpat: Morrison isn't doing ongoings at DC anymore

but he's still working for DC... WW Earth One and Multiversity so he's still technically under DC :p

also I would like to add James Robinson and Joshual Fialkov to my list of good writers at DC :)

yea but it's going to be months if not years before we see them and it's not like there a continual

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#38 Posted by JairamGanpat (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JairamGanpat said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JairamGanpat: Morrison isn't doing ongoings at DC anymore

but he's still working for DC... WW Earth One and Multiversity so he's still technically under DC :p

also I would like to add James Robinson and Joshual Fialkov to my list of good writers at DC :)

yea but it's going to be months if not years before we see them and it's not like there a continual

You are correct :/

hopefully his last issues of Action Comics and Batman Inc are so amazing that we won't even mind T-T

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#39 Posted by Twentyfive (3057 posts) - - Show Bio

Was Batgirl bad? I haven't read much of it, but I know that Simone is a good writer. I wonder what happened.

I hope she finds employment elsewhere.

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#40 Posted by rav4 (1688 posts) - - Show Bio

@Twentyfive: Some people love it, some people hate it. Doesn't really seem to be any middle ground.

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#41 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

@Twentyfive: Some people love it, some people hate it. Doesn't really seem to be any middle ground.

Yea but it's still a dick move getting fired by email, almost as bad as getting dumped by txt

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#42 Posted by rav4 (1688 posts) - - Show Bio

@Juandicimo_Magnifico45 said:

I think we need to wait to hear more information about the situation before freaking out and hating. Obviously something has happened behind the scenes. Plus, while I have been enjoying Batgirl, I am not heartbroken about a new writer. It was never something I looked forward to seeing. Maybe she is being put on a new project, maybe it is to simply try a different writer to boost sales? We don't know enough yet.

I don't see how it could be that, considering Batgirl has been selling very well lately (in fact, it's been the highest selling book with a female lead for the past couple months), but yeah I'd say there was definitely something going on behind the scenes. According to Gail, she already has several future issues scripted that aren't going to be used now. New editor just came in and kicked her out for some reason, we won't know the real story until more information comes out.

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#43 Edited by rav4 (1688 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@Ravager4 said:

@Twentyfive: Some people love it, some people hate it. Doesn't really seem to be any middle ground.

Yea but it's still a dick move getting fired by email, almost as bad as getting dumped by txt

No doubt. What's worse is that when Mike Nelson tweeted her, asking if she didn’t “put enough women in refrigerators or something?”, Gail replied “Funny you should say that.” And I think it was at that point that everyone following her on Twitter collectively shat themselves and asked “Oh dear God, DC, what have you done this time?!”

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#44 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@Ravager4 said:

@Twentyfive: Some people love it, some people hate it. Doesn't really seem to be any middle ground.

Yea but it's still a dick move getting fired by email, almost as bad as getting dumped by txt

No doubt. What's worse is that when Mike Nelson tweeted her, asking if she didn’t “put enough women in refrigerators or something?”, Gail replied “Funny you should say that.” And I think it was at that point that everyone following her on Twitter collectively shat themselves and asked “Oh dear God, DC, what have you done this time?!”

yea I seen that, something bad is going down at DC editorial

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#45 Edited by queenfrost_ (2613 posts) - - Show Bio

WHAT!?!?

That is awful. Truly. From Gail's tumblr I can tell she'd been having problems with DC lately...But not to this extent. Ugh. F*ck you DC for kicking off one of the best writers you had (let alone the best female writer)....Btw I know Batgirl wasn't exactly the best but you can't deny her run on Wonder Woman & SS were astounding. And BoP of course.

And Gail is one of those select writers that have a following of their own. So I don't see logic behind this. But then again, idk....I don't work for DC. I'm saddened because she inspired me a lot and got me in to comics the first place (BoP series) and just...ugh. She'd written out Babs' recovery story too :(

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#46 Posted by Mercy_ (94928 posts) - - Show Bio
@BushidoBlack

Being putting off a book via email is a dick move. That shouldn't happen to anybody regardless of the quality of work they're submitting.

It wouldn't surprise me if she ends up at Marvel.

Marvel could desperately use Gail.

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#47 Posted by queenfrost_ (2613 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_: This may be a typecast but c'mon...She has to do something with the New Defenders. She is a self-confessed Misty stan.

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#48 Posted by Mercy_ (94928 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ravager4

@Twentyfive: Some people love it, some people hate it. Doesn't really seem to be any middle ground.

I'd be the middle ground on that. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't my favorite. I think Gail did well with what she was given, but it wasn't her usual standard ala BOP vol 1 and Secret Six, both of which rank in my favorite runs of all time.
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#49 Posted by rav4 (1688 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_ said:

@Ravager4

@Twentyfive: Some people love it, some people hate it. Doesn't really seem to be much middle ground.

I'd be the middle ground on that. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't my favorite. I think Gail did well with what she was given, but it wasn't her usual standard ala BOP vol 1 and Secret Six, both of which rank in my favorite runs of all time.

Better? :)

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#50 Posted by Mercy_ (94928 posts) - - Show Bio

Gail Simone on a black Widow ongoing.

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