Worst Retcons in X-Men History

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What do you consider the worst retcon of the X-Universe?

Mine is the fact that Wolverine and Sabretooth invented and led the X-Men first, and Xavier is just burrowing the idea.

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The recent Iceman thing comes to mind.

Also the whole Phoenix/Jean Grey retcon was pretty bad IMO.

Scarlet With and Quicksilver not being Magneto's kids was just bad.

I'll think of some others, but really it's hard to distinguish a recommendation from just a bad development.

Like it pisses me off when I look at the wasted potential with Hope Summers. We still don't have an answer as to who or what the hell she's supposed to be. I feel like the plan was for her to Jean reincarnated and if so they should have stuck with that.

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Nightcrawler's parentage

Jean/Phoenix

Piotr's abusive father

Xorn/Magneto fiasco

Storm and Black Panther's first meeting

Magneto is not the father

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Deadly Genesis.

Most Weapon X details and revelations, like Romulus, X-23, etc.

Kwannon

Cable being Nathan.

Most things with Apocalypse.

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Xavier and Mystique are married and have a kid...I think

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Jean/Phoenix is the worst. It ruins the greatest X-Men story.

All the Prof X retcons are second. They all make him out to be a jerk.

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#7  Edited By Invain

Jean/Phoenix

Cable being Nathan

All of Larry Hama's weapon X retcons, and most of the newer ones.

Wolverine's huge family

Storm and Black Panther

Xorneto

Bishop's envolvment in Messiah Complex

Whedon and Brubaker's Professor X retcons

Magneto not being the father of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver

Mystique turns into a psychopath, because reasons

The omega mutant storyline that Bendis did

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Magneto not being the father of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver

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#9  Edited By HAWK2916

@cattlebattle: Good list. Only question....you don't like X-23?

Also love the mention of Bishop being a child killer in Messiah complex.

Cable being Nate was horrible as well

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M-Twins/Penance. I can't believe I even like Monet because that was such a mess.

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@hawk2916 said:

@cattlebattle: Good list. Only question....you don't like X-23?

I don't really care for spin off type characters that are just carbon copies with little nuances, one of the only cases where it works is something like She Hulk. Also, the over usage of the Weapon X project and having x amount of characters be spawned from it just cheapens Wolverine for me. When you read Barry Windsor Smith's Weapon X series it makes the Weapon X project seem like this fringe, clandestine project that only some really disturbed people would come up with, when you open it to being the origin of 15 or so other characters, it makes it seem less shady and like it was a well known branch of the government or something. Takes all the eeriness out of it. Devalues the inhumanity of it.

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#13  Edited By poisonfleur

@sprior93 said:

Nightcrawler's parentage

Jean/Phoenix

Piotr's abusive father

Xorn/Magneto fiasco

Storm and Black Panther's first meeting

Magneto is not the father

Those were HORRIBLE!^^ Hated them!
AND HOW THEY IGNORED PHOENIX: ENDSONG with Warsong and AvX.... UGGGHHHH NO!

Speaking of AvX-- they just ignore Rachel and replace her with Hope... WHY?

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The worst retcon: Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch aren't the son and daughter of Magneto...they're not even mutants!

This was so obviously influenced by the MCU movies it makes me cringe.

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#15  Edited By Revive

Xorn/Magneto probably pissed me off the worst. I mean, yeah, it sucks that Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver are not Magneto's, but I never cared for those characters in the first place....

@sprior93 said:

Nightcrawler's parentage

Does that even count as a retcon?

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The existence of Azazel irks me.

I despise Austen

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@revive: Yes. Why wouldn't it?

It was awful, but what was retconned about that?

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@revive: Kurt's original father was Baron Christian Wagner. Hence why it's a retcon

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@revan2424: He was created by Chuck Austin for that story arc.

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@revive: He'd appeared before, but was nameless

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@revive: He'd appeared before, but was nameless

He is only listed as having one appearance in this site's wiki.

Where did he appear before?

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@revan2424: Claremont originally wanted Mystique to be the father and Destiny the mother. That would have been so much more interesting.

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Xorneto was a great retcon. Made more sense than the story itself for sure :p

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Storm and BP

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@adamtrmm said:

Xorneto was a great retcon. Made more sense than the story itself for sure :p

The second one did.

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Phoenix and the clone of Jean Grey (still pissed after all these years...)

Magneto not the father: real impact of the Disney/Fox war in the comics

(But you can add if you push a little bit: death of Xavier, of Logan, the agenda behind the Inhumans etc...)

Bobby random change (real impact of an executive decision to promote plurality...as it is well established now, this was just a short cut: the introduction of a new character would not have been a problem)

The rest is more or less in the range and what is acceptable in a comics.

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#28  Edited By PyroFN

Cykes glasses. Just pick an origin and move on!

Wanda and Pietro. Doesn't bother me too much, it just was unnecessary and gives them more reason to move away from Magneto.

Archangels constant change from wings to metallic to wings to metallic.

All minor, nothing major.

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@revive said:

The second one did.

The second one? There was Shen Xorn, and there was Bendis' mutant energy swarm taken over by the original one. It's more of an addition to the retcon rather than a second one.

Or maybe I misunderstood.

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@adamtrmm: The first retcon, where Xorn was retconned into Magneto was bad. The second one, where it was revealed that it wasn't Magneto, was good.

That's what I was getting at.

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Deadly Genesis.

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@revive:

Many say Morrison intended Xorn to be Magneto all along so it wouldn't be a retcon, just a "twist".

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@adamtrmm said:

@revive:

Many say Morrison intended Xorn to be Magneto all along so it wouldn't be a retcon, just a "twist".

I don't see it tho. Issue 127 puts a big hole in that theory.

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#34  Edited By adamTRMM

@revive:

I know, but that was supposed to be a misdirection issue. As was issue 132. He even then explains how it all worked for him. Iron prison, nanosentinels instead of healing, hidden killings, taxi without a driver, etc, etc. It's crappy, I agree, but that's what it was. I find it also extremely ironic how those two issues were actually the best ones of his run, and yet those issues were lies.

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#35  Edited By walter5james

Azazel, the maximoff twins no longer being related to magneto, the Phoenix/Jean grey, Colossus's dad and Prof x being a REAL jerk.

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the black panther and storm retcon was retconned back to the original story in the amazing xmen annual.