Sparring with Killer Croc, Shiva and Cheetah:
Teaching Black Canary (giving tips):
Subdues powergirl:
Faster than superman in combat:
WW (blindfolded) vs JLA:
WW ownage:
She's good, very good, but not the best. Shiva, the Cains and a few others are all superior H2H combatants.
And that issue where she took on the League was PIS.
Continuation:
"Wonderwoman is the best melee fighter in the world" - Batman
Bear in mind that in the world there is Lady Shiva, Bronze tiger, Batman (who is the master of all styles of martial arts and combat). Wonderwoman is probs second only to Karate kid.
Please share your opinions and scans. Also please provide more examples of WW's skills, I want this thread to be a good reference point for battle forums.
@Kal'smahboi:
This thread is about skill not power, Powergirl in my opinion is stronger and faster, but WW got her in a hold because of her skill (she was just trying to get PG to come to her senses due to mindcontrol)
@FadeToBlackBolt:
It does not seem that bad to me, Martian Manhunter does not start fighting with low density, I mean for crying out loud he can be tagged by superman, so why not against someone who is faster in combat to Superman???
Plasticman gets punched all the time, so why not against someone who can move a third of the earth???
Flash may be faster, but due to her skill she has done it all before:
@FadeToBlackBolt:
Comicvine cut my post, but I was going to show her tagging Zoom, and then show her taking out Flash.
You also then proceeded to prove my point, WW can't beat Superman or Flash in a race, but WW does not need to think about her moves, and has better reflexes, making her ability to Tag even greater than Superman. They used the analogy of Usain Bolt and Bruce lee. Who has the faster punches and reflexes? I should imagine Bruce.
MM getting hurt was PIS I admit, but not the actual act of getting hit or thrown when in WW's lasso.
Plus The flash NEVER goes all out.. Most of it was fine, Black Canary, Batman, Plastic man should have got one-shotted, but it was training.
A training session, none of them were serious, thus it ain't PIS barring MM holding his rib.
@ultimatewarrior123: I'll try and stay positive. But some of what you said is wrong, she isn't stronger than weaker than Power-Girl.This post does not make sense but Power Girl is stronger than Wonder Woman but not by a lot. Certainly not enough to be a significant factor in a fight.
I've always thought Wonder Woman was a grreat fighter. I think that should can fight a lot of battles but I don't think she is the best.
@comicdude23 said:Lol, I wrote it wrong. Even if she is Stronger, how is she Stronger? Wonder Woman stated that she was at-least as Strong as her, what feats does Power Girl have to say she is Stronger than Wonder Woman?@ultimatewarrior123: I'll try and stay positive. But some of what you said is wrong, she isn't stronger than weaker than Power-Girl.This post does not make sense but Power Girl is stronger than Wonder Woman but not by a lot. Certainly not enough to be a significant factor in a fight.
Kara is Kryptonian. That is all there is to it really.@erik said:
@comicdude23 said:Lol, I wrote it wrong. Even if she is Stronger, how is she Stronger? Wonder Woman stated that she was at-least as Strong as her, what feats does Power Girl have to say she is Stronger than Wonder Woman?@ultimatewarrior123: I'll try and stay positive. But some of what you said is wrong, she isn't stronger than weaker than Power-Girl.This post does not make sense but Power Girl is stronger than Wonder Woman but not by a lot. Certainly not enough to be a significant factor in a fight.
@comicdude23 said:I've seen someone post a scan of Wonder Woman saying that she's at-least as Strong as her. And Wonder Woman has better Strength feats.Kara is Kryptonian. That is all there is to it really.@erik said:
@comicdude23 said:Lol, I wrote it wrong. Even if she is Stronger, how is she Stronger? Wonder Woman stated that she was at-least as Strong as her, what feats does Power Girl have to say she is Stronger than Wonder Woman?@ultimatewarrior123: I'll try and stay positive. But some of what you said is wrong, she isn't stronger than weaker than Power-Girl.This post does not make sense but Power Girl is stronger than Wonder Woman but not by a lot. Certainly not enough to be a significant factor in a fight.
Wonder Woman is an amazing fighter, and really a great character all around. But, in the world of comics, I've found it's like life in that, there's always someone better. No matter the character, skill, feat, or act, there will always be someone better at some time, in some place. :)
@erik said:On the previous page, a scan is posted where Diana says that Power Girl is at least as strong as her, but the implication is that she was likely more powerful. We already know that Power Girl is as strong as Supergirl and Supergirl is a lot stronger than Diana.@comicdude23 said:I've seen someone post a scan of Wonder Woman saying that she's at-least as Strong as her. And Wonder Woman has better Strength feats.Kara is Kryptonian. That is all there is to it really.@erik said:
@comicdude23 said:Lol, I wrote it wrong. Even if she is Stronger, how is she Stronger? Wonder Woman stated that she was at-least as Strong as her, what feats does Power Girl have to say she is Stronger than Wonder Woman?@ultimatewarrior123: I'll try and stay positive. But some of what you said is wrong, she isn't stronger than weaker than Power-Girl.This post does not make sense but Power Girl is stronger than Wonder Woman but not by a lot. Certainly not enough to be a significant factor in a fight.
@comicdude23 said:Well, there could be more reasons to that. That Wonder Woman under-estimated her, that Power Girl was more aggressive, and Wonder Woman was holding back. I wouldn't say that Supergirl is a-lot Stronger than Wonder Woman.@erik said:On the previous page, a scan is posted where Diana says that Power Girl is at least as strong as her, but the implication is that she was likely more powerful. We already know that Power Girl is as strong as Supergirl and Supergirl is a lot stronger than Diana.@comicdude23 said:I've seen someone post a scan of Wonder Woman saying that she's at-least as Strong as her. And Wonder Woman has better Strength feats.Kara is Kryptonian. That is all there is to it really.@erik said:
@comicdude23 said:Lol, I wrote it wrong. Even if she is Stronger, how is she Stronger? Wonder Woman stated that she was at-least as Strong as her, what feats does Power Girl have to say she is Stronger than Wonder Woman?@ultimatewarrior123: I'll try and stay positive. But some of what you said is wrong, she isn't stronger than weaker than Power-Girl.This post does not make sense but Power Girl is stronger than Wonder Woman but not by a lot. Certainly not enough to be a significant factor in a fight.
If she is not the best she should be, as DC's main female she needs something in her arsnel to be able to keep up with the likes of Superman and Power girl
I'm pretty sure WW is considered the best. She's supposed to be technique/skill, Superman power, and Batman intelligence.
@erik said:There is nothing to it. You are trying to over complicate the scan. Wonder Woman did not underestimate Power Girl. She simply stated that Power Girl is at least as strong as herself but in context, the implication is that she is stronger and Wonder Woman could not beat Power Girl at a strength game. So she switched the way she chose to engage Power Girl to be a matter of skill, something that Wonder Woman clearly outclasses Power Girl at. I would say that Supergirl is a lot stronger than Wonder Woman as well, not enough to matter in a fight but enough to matter in something like an arm wrestling contest for sure. No one ever thought Wonder Woman was stronger than Superman.... ever.On the previous page, a scan is posted where Diana says that Power Girl is at least as strong as her, but the implication is that she was likely more powerful. We already know that Power Girl is as strong as Supergirl and Supergirl is a lot stronger than Diana.Well, there could be more reasons to that. That Wonder Woman under-estimated her, that Power Girl was more aggressive, and Wonder Woman was holding back. I wouldn't say that Supergirl is a-lot Stronger than Wonder Woman.
@mavfan626 said:Well said.@erik: Just out of curiosity, do you think a depowered Wonder Woman would be a good match for Iron Fist? (No Chi)I personally think she can but I cannot back that up with feats. She has them against skilled fighters, but they are few were Iron Fist's are many.
I'm pretty sure WW is considered the best. She's supposed to be technique/skill, Superman power, and Batman intelligence.She's nowhere near Batman's intelligence.
Power Girl is an Earth 2 Kryptonian and she's only on the lvl of Supergirl, who has beaten her and one shotted her. Wonder woman has one shotted Evil Kara and it was not an surprise attack. Diana is second only to the likes of Superman. She is more than capable of hurting Martian Manhunter since it was those two, and Superman that pushed the earth. Giving them all around a third of the weight. If Power Girl was stronger, she'd have been the one to help.
QFT. Thankyou for being reasonable. Why doesn't anybody else realise all that?Power Girl is an Earth 2 Kryptonian and she's only on the lvl of Supergirl, who has beaten her and one shotted her. Wonder woman has one shotted Evil Kara and it was not an surprise attack. Diana is second only to the likes of Superman. She is more than capable of hurting Martian Manhunter since it was those two, and Superman that pushed the earth. Giving them all around a third of the weight. If Power Girl was stronger, she'd have been the one to help.
No.
Karate Kid's whole claim to fame is that he's the best fighter, he outclasses everyone, by a lot.
Trained by I-Ching
read the dialog(s)
(Not saying she's the most skilled fighter. Just adding to the topic's request)
@Gambler: I believe those first scans are Pre-Crisis Diana.Of course. They're from the late 60's.
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